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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 08 2017 06:38 GMT
#281
i play mostly swims list with a few changes (decree instead of saskia)

You have to be really careful about how you use your eithne and illithne, there's a lot of "secondary" win conditions you can enable (such as losing the first round early on purpose with decent resil so that they force pass the second round but you double adrenaline rush after they pass for a free win in the third etc.)

The key to the deck is managing your resilience properly and learning when to deliberately lose and ensure you get good carry over into your next rounds - don't continue playing if you know your carryover will be dead if you do so, or make them pay a lot to kill your resilience so that you can maybe build something in second round etc.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
July 08 2017 07:34 GMT
#282
Been playing for sbout 3 weeks now and just hit 3k as weather monsters. Not sure if it's purely because of the mmr change or if I'm getting better.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-08 09:51:58
July 08 2017 09:51 GMT
#283
On July 08 2017 09:57 BrTarolg wrote:
i'm not really sure how i feel about the meta atm, but weather, consume, dwarves, reveal, baron are all making some appearances atm


The meta feels much more varied than the previous two patches at least, which were all Morkvarg and then Axemen/weather. Like literally 9/10 games were against SK.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-10 06:15:09
July 10 2017 06:14 GMT
#284
On July 08 2017 16:34 hunts wrote:
Been playing for sbout 3 weeks now and just hit 3k as weather monsters. Not sure if it's purely because of the mmr change or if I'm getting better.


I also gained loads since patch. The new MMR changes are definitely one of the reasons.

A thread on reddit shows that up until 4K MMR, you will gain more than you lose in games, so a 50% winrate can take you to 4K as long as you play enough games.

After 4K it's the other way around, you lose more than you gain, so you actually need something like a 60% winrate to get that rank 21.

Not sure what I think about this. Rethaz has hinted that there will be some form of carry-over between seasons, so surely everyone will be 4K eventually xD
Kinda ruins the achievement.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
July 13 2017 20:17 GMT
#285
I'm not even really playing atm, just waiting for an announcement about when the season will end to push for top 1k.

Game is fun, but MTGO leagues and real risk/reward makes for a much better experience. I honestly feel like ladder systems for card games will always be second class.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
July 14 2017 14:37 GMT
#286
Haven't played much since the latest round of changes, is monster consume still the top ladder deck? I see a lot of weather decks popping up again, are they really viable at the higher SRs?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2017 14:46 GMT
#287
Consume and Weather are both viable. Them along with ST seem to be top tier.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13074 Posts
July 14 2017 16:01 GMT
#288
Playing only consume since last patch and went from 2.3 to 3.8k atm.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
July 14 2017 17:16 GMT
#289
Played a bunch of consume without crones, 90% win rate so far around 2500. I guess there's some serious rating inflation going on, ppl being matched against me are so much worse than the ones in casual mode.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2017 17:20 GMT
#290
They made it so pre 3K you basically don't lose points so eventually you'll grind up. Consume doesn't use crones anymore. Monsters just has insane cards in every slot so don't even need tempo of crones to win.
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 18:19:53
July 15 2017 20:35 GMT
#291
At level 12 rank 10 I am 18-2 with dwarfs, I wonder is it a deck, is it me, or my opposition is less skilled than me... .
I see many consume players, I don't remember losing to one.

BTW someone knows when season ends? Those rewards look juicy and maybe I need to climb a bit more?
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
July 19 2017 07:21 GMT
#292
Just hit 4k on both my main and a smurf, main was as dagon swarm, smurf was as dwarves and budget dagon swarm. Kind of crazy how 4k has become basically top 4k people, when before the patch I remember seeing people in top 500 at 3500 or even lower.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
July 25 2017 13:22 GMT
#293
So the real game starts around 2800 when I met people with top decks all the time. I struggle with dwarfs there. I am starting to see rng all over again. I guess you can't really escape it with card games.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
July 25 2017 16:40 GMT
#294
On July 25 2017 22:22 Solmyr wrote:
So the real game starts around 2800 when I met people with top decks all the time. I struggle with dwarfs there. I am starting to see rng all over again. I guess you can't really escape it with card games.

I just reached 3500 with 58-14 record, definitely not that much RNG compared to the other CCGs. I think playing a more refined deck you can probably maintain a 90% win rate all the way to 3700ish.
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-26 20:25:45
July 26 2017 20:10 GMT
#295
It's very rng, ofc it is proly not that important if you play OP a.k.a refined

The more I play this game the more I start to not understand some mechanics... Cards that ressurect many cards from graveyard, cards that summon many cards from your own deck, cards that reset many cards at once, weather was special thing, cards that buff themselves if you do theme of your deck. If you don't play things like that than I am afraid you are kinda screwed. And at my rating I feel screwed.
You need G: Igni becouse your opponent play NG deck and buff a unit to 60 not playing around anything, nope.
You don't need G:Igni becouse you have no targets, it is here!

For the rest of the beta I abandon playing anything more than a daily quest.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-26 21:49:07
July 26 2017 21:42 GMT
#296
Not sure I understand what you are getting at. In the total 3 rounds, you get 5 mulligans and 13 draws out of a total of 25 cards, plus any cards that draws from the deck. This is a game where you can draw 90% of your deck by round 3. If you complain about not able to draw specific cards at any time in this game then you really should stay away from any kind of card game in general.

If your opponent makes a combo that you can't answer, just give up the round and try to win the next. I am pretty sure over 60% of my wins are won by opponent making a mistake on when to pass.

From what I see on stream, every matchup at the top level plays out very similarly because there's so little variance, and small mistakes are punished harshly.

There's also nothing wrong with combo decks with synergy, it's the whole point of playing any card game to be frank.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-27 01:13:53
July 27 2017 01:12 GMT
#297
Just made masters playing only for the daily quest, with 79 total games played.

Going from 18-20 is probably like going from rank 5 to legend in HS. I'm guessing it will probably take a couple hundred games at least. They really shouldn't separate the ranks by such huge gaps in SR once the inflation stops at 4000. The difference between rank 18 and 21 is a whopping 800 points...
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
July 27 2017 05:57 GMT
#298
Well after the rant I suddenly started to play better and get to rank 16 after 36h played total in game with 62-29 ranked. In HS that kind of win rate would be very good. So rank 18 is like rank 5? I need to get to that at some point. Or maybe pvp games are not that great for casuals. Or it is hard to be casual after you were a nolife
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-27 13:48:05
July 27 2017 13:47 GMT
#299
At 4000 SR is where you stop advancing with a 50% win rate. So I guess technically that's equivalent to rank 5 in HS where the winstreak bonus stops.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
July 28 2017 15:00 GMT
#300
From data gathered on reddit:

From 4K to 4.25K you win 22 and lose 23 points. Playing 100 games means that 100(22(w) - 23(1-w)) = 250. So you'd need a 56.66(recurring)% winrate to reach 4.25K from 4K in 100 games.

From 4.25K to 4.5K you win 15 and lose 16. Playing 100 games means that 100(15(w) - 16(1-w)) = 250. You'd need a 59.677% winrate.


Need to have 60% winrate to go from 4.25k to 4.5k in 100 games.
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