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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
June 19 2017 16:01 GMT
#221
I played a bunch of games with Kambi/Hjalmar/Shackles combo. The plan is to win one round with axeman + weather/tremors, and win the second round with Kambi+shackes+Hjalmar. Results are decent vs other SK decks, but I almost never win vs weather decks that tries to go for 2-0. You can draw pretty much your entire deck by round 3, but if the opponent tries to go for two round win you are kinda screwed.

If my axeman gets killed/locked in the first two rounds, its pretty impossible to win the match.
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
June 19 2017 19:00 GMT
#222
Reading the book once again I find Yarpen Zigrinn against ST motivations calling it:"stupid crime", "bunch of kids hearing the Nilfgaard emissaries lies". Yet he is a star in my ST deck .
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
June 20 2017 10:20 GMT
#223
On June 20 2017 04:00 Solmyr wrote:
Reading the book once again I find Yarpen Zigrinn against ST motivations calling it:"stupid crime", "bunch of kids hearing the Nilfgaard emissaries lies". Yet he is a star in my ST deck .


It's not that important, but yes that kinda bugs me aswell.
None of the dwarfen main characters are scoiatael, most of them actually fight against them if I remember correctly.

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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17750 Posts
June 20 2017 11:41 GMT
#224
On June 20 2017 19:20 TerransHill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:00 Solmyr wrote:
Reading the book once again I find Yarpen Zigrinn against ST motivations calling it:"stupid crime", "bunch of kids hearing the Nilfgaard emissaries lies". Yet he is a star in my ST deck .


It's not that important, but yes that kinda bugs me aswell.
None of the dwarfen main characters are scoiatael, most of them actually fight against them if I remember correctly.


Most of them oppose Nilfgaard and Nilfgaard is using Scoia'tael extensively as their allies.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 21 2017 11:44 GMT
#225
We're working on some balance changes, stay tuned


CDPR's Burza just posted that.

Thank God, the nightmare will end
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
June 21 2017 13:10 GMT
#226
One can only hope. But there's so much work to do.

By the way, what do you guys think about the new MMR system? Alot of people complain because they don't gain MMR anymore. I am around 3,5k and I gained 47 points for a win yesterday, today I got (and lost) like ~20-25 points per match which I am actually fine with because this way the MMR isn't that swingy. Don't really know how it exactly works now though.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 21 2017 13:16 GMT
#227
From what I understand, the system is exactly the same up until 2500 MMR, there the K-value has been changed so there are less swings.

The only difference is that it is now more of a grind to reach the ranks above 14, but Rethaz already said they may adjust the rank thresholds.

For my ranked games yesterday I earned +20 for all my wins, which is less than before, but I imagine I will also lose less points when I lose a game
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-21 16:41:05
June 21 2017 16:40 GMT
#228
On June 21 2017 22:16 Laurens wrote:
For my ranked games yesterday I earned +20 for all my wins, which is less than before, but I imagine I will also lose less points when I lose a game


But you aren't abusing Skellige, are you?

I climbed quite a bit with Axemen, now I play an Eredin weather deck which I enjoy quite a bit. The hounds are really good but I hope they'll make the other wild hunt units viable with the next patch.

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habermas
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom304 Posts
June 22 2017 11:07 GMT
#229
Ok, so I was wrong about Millfgaard working well against Skellige. Now that 90% of my games are against them my win rate dropped to around 30%. It feels like there's no other factions but SK on the ladder, and with a whole variety of decks, bears and Hjalmar being a common theme.

Do you guys have any good decks that work well against SK? It just seems so versatile without any real weaknesses at the moment.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-22 11:53:37
June 22 2017 11:47 GMT
#230
On June 22 2017 20:07 habermas wrote:
Ok, so I was wrong about Millfgaard working well against Skellige. Now that 90% of my games are against them my win rate dropped to around 30%. It feels like there's no other factions but SK on the ladder, and with a whole variety of decks, bears and Hjalmar being a common theme.

Do you guys have any good decks that work well against SK? It just seems so versatile without any real weaknesses at the moment.



I heard NG decks with letho (and occasionally dbomb) are pretty good vs Sk (but shit against everything else). Havent tried it myself though. Watch megamogwai or adamnadrac on twitch, they play it sometimes.

I personally feel that weather can be quite potent because they dont have a row clear.

Northern Realms is also said to be good vs certain SK variants. (cause of armor)

But in general the best way to deal with SK ist to play SK yourself I guess^^
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 22 2017 13:01 GMT
#231
'SK' is pretty broad nowadays

With Dwarves I do decent vs King Bran Axemen weather decks, but I think I only go 50/50 vs An Craite Mork decks.

I don't think there is a deck that does well vs ALL SK archtypes.

Basically my deck runs 3 x First Light which is great vs that Axemen Frost deck, but An Craite runs 0 weather effects so I have some semi-useless cards in my deck vs them.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17750 Posts
June 22 2017 20:00 GMT
#232
Isn't consume monsters good vs SK?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
June 23 2017 09:44 GMT
#233
On June 23 2017 05:00 Manit0u wrote:
Isn't consume monsters good vs SK?



Well as monsters you can run some tech cards like Bekkers twisted mirror, succubus, griffin, katakan etc.

Dont know if consume in particular is good.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 23 2017 10:58 GMT
#234
On June 23 2017 05:00 Manit0u wrote:
Isn't consume monsters good vs SK?


Lots of row-stacking, I'd think Axemen frost deck wrecks it.
Of course a twisted mirror on a 20+ axeman can swing things around.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-23 13:14:42
June 23 2017 13:14 GMT
#235
Just watched Lifecoach stream for the past hour at #12 global. He plays SK and ALL HIS OPPONENTS also played SK, six games in a row.

So I'm pretty confident there's not a single deck out there that does well vs SK, otherwise ppl would be playing it there
habermas
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom304 Posts
June 23 2017 14:35 GMT
#236
Dwarfs are actually a great suggestion, even though perhaps not an obvious one. I've added a few tech cards to my dwarfs deck and have been doing surprisingly well:

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Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
June 23 2017 17:01 GMT
#237
Do you have any list of that dwarf deck?
habermas
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom304 Posts
June 24 2017 15:52 GMT
#238
My list is very similar to this one: http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/22793-update-1-3-7k-mmr-steimel-dwarfs

I run revive instead of Igni, because being able to play Ithlinne or Zoltan twice is really strong, especially if you use zoltan on Olgierd as he increases base strength. Also Igni sometimes ends up being a dead draw. I also run Ida Emaen in place of Cleaver as she gives an additional clear skies and fog, which is really good against both SK and Monsters. I also have shackles in place of 1 elven mercenary. I found 2 to sometimes mess up your last round draws and shackles are really good in this meta against bears, axemen and cards like Succubus, Hjalmar and occasional Kambi.

After playing this deck for a while I don't think it has any major weaknesses. I have positive winrate against all factions except NG (50%), because of multiple locks + Letho and ST spell control (40%), but I rarely see them.
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
June 24 2017 17:40 GMT
#239
Thanks
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 25 2017 19:54 GMT
#240
https://i.redd.it/x34pguo4qs5z.png

At 3k+ MMR, 50% of the players use Crach an Craite or King Bran
Only 5 leaders have above 50% winrate at 3K+ MMR, unsurprisingly they are all from the Monsters/Skellige faction.

Time to roll that patch out boys. Hoping for a Monday Dev stream that announces the changes but they haven't mentioned it yet..
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