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Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1018 Posts
December 09 2018 11:12 GMT
#2421
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
Lemartes
Profile Joined June 2015
Austria57 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 12:20:23
December 09 2018 12:15 GMT
#2422
On December 09 2018 20:12 Tal wrote:
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)


Why not just dive in. I mean do you want to play competitivly and just 1v1 or do you want a party game (like you stated both things). Smash is both. Just go in play singleplayer and FFA for fun and if you really want to dive in start watching streams and tutorials to grasp the competitive basics of the game. And why not start now when there is a ton of new players and content being released by the minute!
EDIT: If you play FFA with friends it doesnt matter which characters can do what etc. but you can certainly learn more moves and everything. Past game references I don´t really know what you mean, but basically every characters moveset is 90% what it has been in every other smash game but frame data and such changed so characters are worse/better than before and then there are the new additions to the cast. But as I said so many new people right now that feel as lost as you. I´m basically playing Falcon and Falco right now, my Melee mains and just start to learn what all the characters from Brawl and later can do since I only played melee before. But it´s fun and I don´t care. In some months we all gonna have it down I assume, there´s gonna be a certain amount of characters used by the Top 8 of tournies and sometimes we gonna see upsets with crazy low tier characters and strats, but right now I guess everything is possible.
NaDa | IMMVP | ByuN?
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 09 2018 13:02 GMT
#2423
Game is so good
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46686 Posts
December 09 2018 13:12 GMT
#2424
On December 09 2018 20:12 Tal wrote:
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)


Yes, this would be a great Smash game to really sink your teeth into. It's gorgeous, competitive, fun, and you have so many options for characters, stages, and music that you're guaranteed to enjoy it!

The game has only been out for a few days, but it seems to have a reasonably high skill ceiling. Based on my experiences with Smash Bros and following competitive scenes, I rank the skill ceilings of the previous four Smash games as Melee > 64 > Smash 4 > Brawl; I'm finding Ultimate to be comfortably between 64 and Smash 4. I'm very satisfied with that.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 09 2018 16:36 GMT
#2425
On December 09 2018 20:12 Tal wrote:
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)

Just get it. Smash Brothers is one of the main reasons to own a Nintendo system, if not THE reason.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
December 09 2018 18:02 GMT
#2426
On December 09 2018 20:12 Tal wrote:
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)


As someone who has only played other smash games like twice, this does not strike me as a high skill game at all. I was actually shocked at how simplified the controls are and how little fun ive had playing it. If it weren't for my kids, I'd return it. Not my style at all. Too much jumping around and too many items raining down. I heard so much hype, and it's just..... yuck.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Lemartes
Profile Joined June 2015
Austria57 Posts
December 09 2018 18:06 GMT
#2427
On December 10 2018 03:02 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2018 20:12 Tal wrote:
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)


As someone who has only played other smash games like twice, this does not strike me as a high skill game at all. I was actually shocked at how simplified the controls are and how little fun ive had playing it. If it weren't for my kids, I'd return it. Not my style at all. Too much jumping around and too many items raining down. I heard so much hype, and it's just..... yuck.


Welp I guess you need to look at some higher level gameplay with items turned off before you make that conclusion. It´s a great game for the kids to just SMASH around but there is depth if you are looking for it. Not as many mechanics as in Melee obviously but it´s not like you can play it once with your kids and write it off as a low skill game. There is a really big difference between what you have probably seen and played and people playing for real at tournaments believe me.
NaDa | IMMVP | ByuN?
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 09 2018 18:16 GMT
#2428
On December 09 2018 17:28 Unleashing wrote:
Kids are persistent little fuckers and will keep going until they cheese out a win

At least that was how i was when i was young and very bad at video games


This. I was way more accomplished playing video games as a kid. I have far less patience as an adult.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18773 Posts
December 09 2018 18:28 GMT
#2429
On December 10 2018 03:02 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2018 20:12 Tal wrote:
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)


As someone who has only played other smash games like twice, this does not strike me as a high skill game at all. I was actually shocked at how simplified the controls are and how little fun ive had playing it. If it weren't for my kids, I'd return it. Not my style at all. Too much jumping around and too many items raining down. I heard so much hype, and it's just..... yuck.


Turn items off, play with more than one stock.
Play battlefield/omega variants of maps.

Then its pure skill between players
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
December 09 2018 18:42 GMT
#2430
On December 10 2018 03:28 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2018 03:02 Ayaz2810 wrote:
On December 09 2018 20:12 Tal wrote:
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)


As someone who has only played other smash games like twice, this does not strike me as a high skill game at all. I was actually shocked at how simplified the controls are and how little fun ive had playing it. If it weren't for my kids, I'd return it. Not my style at all. Too much jumping around and too many items raining down. I heard so much hype, and it's just..... yuck.


Turn items off, play with more than one stock.
Play battlefield/omega variants of maps.

Then its pure skill between players


I'm sure you're right, I just don't like the core aspects of the game. The minimal attack buttons, jumping-centric nonsense, and all the god damn platforms and shit everywhere just make it not fun for me. I'm just a weird dude. I also stopped playing Breath of the Wild after 10 or so hours because scavenging for weapons is a fucking retarded mechanic. Some people are just never happy. I reckon I am one

Back to Red Dead 2 for me!
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
December 09 2018 20:09 GMT
#2431
That's perfect, no? Play Red Dead which would probably provide you 10 billion hours of entertainment while watching your kids play Smash and giggling with each other
Trucy Wright is hot
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
December 09 2018 21:13 GMT
#2432
On December 10 2018 05:09 Purind wrote:
That's perfect, no? Play Red Dead which would probably provide you 10 billion hours of entertainment while watching your kids play Smash and giggling with each other


Spot on.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 09 2018 21:32 GMT
#2433
Depends how many kids you have. I only played the first Smash and enjoyed it as a 4-player party game. The competitive aspect isn't interesting to me.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18773 Posts
December 09 2018 21:40 GMT
#2434
Smash as a party game with equally skilled fighters is really spectacular
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 09 2018 22:13 GMT
#2435
I just can't wait for my social circle's schedules to align for an 8man.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
December 09 2018 22:29 GMT
#2436
Smash is one of the most inclusive fighting games to get into. There is almost no wrong way to play it.
Skol
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46686 Posts
December 10 2018 04:41 GMT
#2437
On December 10 2018 07:29 Emnjay808 wrote:
Smash is one of the most inclusive fighting games to get into. There is almost no wrong way to play it.


Super Smash Bros. is the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup of the fighting genre
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-10 10:59:37
December 10 2018 10:59 GMT
#2438
On December 10 2018 03:02 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2018 20:12 Tal wrote:
As someone who's only briefly played the previous Smash games, is this a decent place to start?

Reviews look good, and would be nice to have another party game apart from Mario Kart, but seems to be a LOT of characters and past game references.

(As a TL'er I love high skill-cap competitive games etc etc.)


As someone who has only played other smash games like twice, this does not strike me as a high skill game at all. I was actually shocked at how simplified the controls are and how little fun ive had playing it. If it weren't for my kids, I'd return it. Not my style at all. Too much jumping around and too many items raining down. I heard so much hype, and it's just..... yuck.

this is earth is flat level of wrong opinion TO BE HONEST

you are allowed to not like a game, but to say that smash is not a high skill game...
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 10 2018 14:45 GMT
#2439
Fighting games: the only genre where someone would actually call simple, intuitive controls a bad thing.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 10 2018 14:59 GMT
#2440
On December 10 2018 23:45 TheYango wrote:
Fighting games: the only genre where someone would actually call simple, intuitive controls a bad thing.

*Cough* Starcraft / Starcraft 2 / MBS *Cough*
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