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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
September 08 2016 01:50 GMT
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On September 07 2016 14:27 SheaR619 wrote:
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On September 06 2016 18:04 29 fps wrote:
I don't know if the system does this already or not, but I think that if there is a leaver, the rest of the team shouldn't lose as many points because it's a 5v6 and the other team shouldn't get as many (for the same reason). It's really discouraging to continue playing handicapped knowing that you're very likely going to lose.


The problem with that is that if the enemy team que as a group, they can just ask one of their friend to leave thereby lessening the amount of MMR lost the rest of the party would suffer.

It also negatively impact the winning team too since all the effort they put into just felt wasted because someone left at the last minute.

I believe it should only factor in win and lost. As the season progresses, considering how harsh the leaving is, it will deter people from leaving as much. Supposly you can get banned for excess leaving and such


Good point. I didn't think about people leaving last minute. I suppose maybe they could stop applying the rule at the last checkpoint or after 2 games on a KotH map.

It's just frustrating to see people leave after one side is done and then having to play handicapped for the second half even though we haven't even lost yet.
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Djzapz
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Canada10681 Posts
September 08 2016 02:20 GMT
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Ultimately I think it's more healthy to think of Overwatch as a game of numbers. There are variables you can't control for (trolls, idiots, disconnects, leavers, ragers, etc.). It evens out because it happens more or less equally often on your team as it does on your opponent's team, even though it may feel like the universe is out to get you specifically .

So yeah it averages out in the end, you have to use your skill to edge out wins despite that.
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