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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 20 2016 13:13 GMT
#261
On March 20 2016 15:24 Excalibur_Z wrote:
So I play Karin, and there are two things about this game that are incredibly frustrating:

1. Netcode. I got a hit... oh wait, no I didn't, I got hit instead. Characters are jumping all over the place. Mind you, this is with searching only 4-5 bar connections. Do I need to search only for 5-bars? The wait times might be pretty long... Also, Arturo's matches generally seem to be okay and he searches 4-5 bars. I don't want this to sound like a super common thing, because it isn't, but probably 10-20% of my matches are like this.

2. Karin's antiairs are garbage (well, compared to Birdie, Nash, or Chun normals). Coming from playing Sakura in SF4, she has no real solution to jump-ins which have generally been buffed across the board with enormous hitboxes. S.hp timing is super strict, trades a lot, and the range is hard to learn. C.hp is also hard to use because it moves her forward, it's pretty slow, and it gets stuffed or trades frequently. EX spin is pretty reliable when you're reading a jump, but it costs meter and the angle can make it whiff against jumps directly above you. If you eat a jump-in in this game, it means you're taking like 40% damage or more, so it seems like this game actively doesn't want you to trust in anti-airs, which means you're better off just blocking.


Karin oes have bad anti air by design it seems. StHP anti air hitbox is just frame, crHP is decent but only against big bodies / far jumps.
try doing back jump MP or HP, or rising neutral jump MK. I get most of my anti air from that.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 20 2016 13:42 GMT
#262
On March 20 2016 15:24 Excalibur_Z wrote:
So I play Karin, and there are two things about this game that are incredibly frustrating:

1. Netcode. I got a hit... oh wait, no I didn't, I got hit instead. Characters are jumping all over the place. Mind you, this is with searching only 4-5 bar connections. Do I need to search only for 5-bars? The wait times might be pretty long... Also, Arturo's matches generally seem to be okay and he searches 4-5 bars. I don't want this to sound like a super common thing, because it isn't, but probably 10-20% of my matches are like this.

2. Karin's antiairs are garbage (well, compared to Birdie, Nash, or Chun normals). Coming from playing Sakura in SF4, she has no real solution to jump-ins which have generally been buffed across the board with enormous hitboxes. S.hp timing is super strict, trades a lot, and the range is hard to learn. C.hp is also hard to use because it moves her forward, it's pretty slow, and it gets stuffed or trades frequently. EX spin is pretty reliable when you're reading a jump, but it costs meter and the angle can make it whiff against jumps directly above you. If you eat a jump-in in this game, it means you're taking like 40% damage or more, so it seems like this game actively doesn't want you to trust in anti-airs, which means you're better off just blocking.

Anti airs in general feel different in SFV for a number of reasons. With most characters I actually find myself more consistently stuffing jump ins with air to airs like Noocta said. Many members of the cast don't have amazing go-to anti air answers like SF4 (especially Sakura like you mentioned, it feels like no one's got a cr.hp that strong haha). I think they wanted to promote blocking more, but also try V-reversal. If someone is jumping in on you a lot it means they have the momentum, and that's what V-reversal is for. I'm still trying to get in the habit of using it. I forget about it.

Also about your first point, I only search 5 bars and about half my matches are teleporting and laggy as hell. Good connections are REALLY good in this netcode but even a slightly laggy one is just infuriating. I haven't been playing much ranked for this reason. It's disappointing. Mostly sparring against a friend I have a good connection with.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-20 17:03:40
March 20 2016 17:00 GMT
#263
Remove the PS button or risk Capcom jail.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 20 2016 17:06 GMT
#264
On March 21 2016 02:00 riotjune wrote:
Remove the PS button or risk Capcom jail.

There's an in-game setting where you need to hold it down for like 3 seconds before it does anything.

Pretty dumb that they didn't turn it on.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
March 20 2016 17:14 GMT
#265
On March 21 2016 02:06 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2016 02:00 riotjune wrote:
Remove the PS button or risk Capcom jail.

There's an in-game setting where you need to hold it down for like 3 seconds before it does anything.

Pretty dumb that they didn't turn it on.


I think that's only for the pause button, and that option is already enabled in tournaments. The PS4 Share button is different and you can configure that to have alternate functionality, taking a screenshot rather than going to the Share menu.
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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
March 20 2016 17:15 GMT
#266
lol, looks like it was Wolfkrone who ragepaused after getting the noodle hat
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 20 2016 18:33 GMT
#267
ooh didnt know that Infiltration-senpai was at FR
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
March 20 2016 22:18 GMT
#268
rmika randoming out GO1, life is struggle
Chun-li since ST
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 20 2016 23:52 GMT
#269
In other news, Infiltration is good at sf.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
March 20 2016 23:52 GMT
#270
infil needs his money he is a world warrior after all.

This game is really awesome .
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 00:31:48
March 21 2016 00:26 GMT
#271
asian overlords
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 21 2016 00:42 GMT
#272
new game, same top 4.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 00:53:06
March 21 2016 00:51 GMT
#273
Infiltration is blowing my mind. I cant believe how good his reads are.

Infil vs Tokido finals please.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
March 21 2016 00:54 GMT
#274
top8 8 different characters? tokido is making me want to play ryu and infiltration is looking scary as hell, super clean.
tho i was a makoto player so gotta cheer for haitani
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 21 2016 01:08 GMT
#275
that match was so hype
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 01:10:38
March 21 2016 01:08 GMT
#276
MURDERFACE

that was so clutch.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 21 2016 01:18 GMT
#277
Tokido has momentum in his side. Finals going to be so sick.

lets go infil-senpai
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
March 21 2016 01:21 GMT
#278
I haven't been able to watch much of this tourney but what little I've seen has been amazing. Looking forward to watching me some VODs!!!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
March 21 2016 01:29 GMT
#279
said it before but high level sfv is amazing to watch
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 21 2016 01:33 GMT
#280
Infiltration looking almost untouchable at the moment. Our only hope is Daigo!
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