I understand I will lose access to some of my students due to the split, I'm planning to choose Rhea in my first BE playthrough, which students will I lose? I imagine Edelgard and Hubert, who else? I'll stop prioritizing the students I lose.

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

September 16 2019 15:38 GMT

#3222

On September 16 2019 14:51 TheYango wrote:
Seminars aren't worth doing. Activity points are too useful--even if you've maxed out your students' motivation and used faculty training to raise skills on Byleth, you can cook temporary stat boosts that stack over multiple weeks in a month (so you can get like +3 speed for your whole team on a chapter), which is insanely useful on Maddening to get your students' stats up. On top of that every explore day lets you grow another permanent stat booster at the greenhouse.

There was some theorycrafting about seminars being useful in no-optional-battle LTC, but once people figured out how to reliably grow statboosters in the greenhouse, that line of thinking was quickly discarded because every explore day letting you get another +1 permanent statbooster is just way more powerful than what you get from seminars.

If you are going to battle, the best time to do it is the last week of a month. For most months in the game, there's no lectures between the last free day of a month and the first free day of the next month, which means that battling on the last week avoids having battles screw up the cadence of restoring motivation to your students.

Wtf those bonusses stack til

Is church useful?

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 16 2019 23:04 GMT

#3223

Choir practice is mostly useful as a way to boost supports before the other options for doing so open up. IIRC it gives more support points than meals. I use it to start building supports with a priority recruit to get them at the earliest possible moment (really just Lysithea) before the merchants and teatime become available.

Cricketer12

United States13990 Posts

September 17 2019 02:51 GMT

#3224

On September 16 2019 17:02 Laurens wrote:
Quick question regarding Edelgard's route:

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you only lose those two. Conversely if you choose edel you loose any associated with the monastary/church including seteth catherine and shamir

Laurens

Belgium4553 Posts

September 17 2019 07:15 GMT

#3225

Alright thanks.

Also is Ferdinand terrible or did mine just get RNG-screwed? STR and SPD seem lacking for a lance user.
Quite a few good mages though. My Dorothea is super powerful.

e: looked up Ferdinand's growths, mine just got screwed it seems T_T

chocorush

694 Posts

September 17 2019 12:36 GMT

#3226

On September 17 2019 11:51 Cricketer12 wrote:

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you only lose those two. Conversely if you choose edel you loose any associated with the monastary/church including seteth catherine and shamir

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Shamir stays.

Cricketer12

United States13990 Posts

September 17 2019 20:00 GMT

#3227

On September 17 2019 21:36 chocorush wrote:

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Shamir stays.

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Yup my mistake, typo. Meant Flayn.

TomatoBisque

United States6290 Posts

September 17 2019 22:36 GMT

#3228

On September 16 2019 06:29 TheYango wrote:
Game apparently gets much easier after C5, not unlike Awakening L/L+.

I haven't had the patience or the time to really give Maddening a good go yet.

I personally think Ch. 7 is the hardest map so far but other than that I mostly agree. Enemies aren't punching bags like they are on Hard but they don't come in enough numbers for me to feel scared

It doesn't help that you can still warpskip

chocorush

694 Posts

September 18 2019 03:19 GMT

#3229

The strategy really feels the same, just lure them out and clean everything up on player phase. Main thing is the weapon arts are way more useful now. Knowing how much money you get in the game, it's really easy to just throw money at the problems in the form of weapon uses.

Lysithea's monstrous mag growth still makes her the best unit in the game because you can wipe out such a large chunk of problem unit hp compared to the rest of the cast.

Laurens

Belgium4553 Posts

September 18 2019 08:48 GMT

#3230

On September 17 2019 16:15 Laurens wrote:
Alright thanks.

Also is Ferdinand terrible or did mine just get RNG-screwed? STR and SPD seem lacking for a lance user.
Quite a few good mages though. My Dorothea is super powerful.

e: looked up Ferdinand's growths, mine just got screwed it seems T_T

Follow-up about my shitty Ferdinand:
At lvl 20 he had 14 STR, while on average he should've had 8 + 8.55 (19 levels * 0.45 STR growth) so he was pretty RNG-screwed. (I think this is the correct calculation?)
But then I promoted him from Cavalier to Paladin and he got +3 STR and +2 DEF so all is well.

Are promotions meant to correct bad RNG? I already noticed that sometimes certain stats get boosted upon promotion and other times your unit doesn't get anything.

chocorush

694 Posts

September 18 2019 12:12 GMT

#3231

If your character doesn't have the minimum stat for the class, base stats are added to your character until you meet the minimum. If it surpasses the minimum stat, no base stats are added, and just the class stats are added on top of your bases.

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

September 18 2019 21:15 GMT

#3232

Chapter 7 would be tough if not for the fact that I cleared 4 Paralogues and my characters are hitting 18-19 basically.

Theoren

Canada810 Posts

September 18 2019 23:31 GMT

#3233

I've seen a lot of people say Chapter 7 is the hardest, but it was by far the easiest chapter I've done , the only thing that was easier was the prologue and even that's arguable. Maybe I just got lucky withthe ai, but I barely had to fight anyone. The other two houses just went at each other, I only had to deal with a couple pegasus knights and and a few cavalry + the leaders.

chocorush

694 Posts

September 19 2019 04:46 GMT

#3234

I one shot the dark knight with lysithea on ch 6. Very fair character.

Cricketer12

United States13990 Posts

September 19 2019 06:47 GMT

#3235

On September 19 2019 13:46 chocorush wrote:
I one shot the dark knight with lysithea on ch 6. Very fair character.

par for the course

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 19 2019 06:50 GMT

#3236

I think she's actually more likely to one-shot him than not, especially with growable statboosters and Battalions in play.

TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

September 19 2019 11:39 GMT

#3237

On September 18 2019 21:12 chocorush wrote:
If your character doesn't have the minimum stat for the class, base stats are added to your character until you meet the minimum. If it surpasses the minimum stat, no base stats are added, and just the class stats are added on top of your bases.

I read somewhere (but never confirmed) that the base stats can also be taken with you when you leave the class. So the Armored Knight exam, for example, is a great way (if taken early enough) to secure 12 defense on your natural low defense characters.

chocorush

694 Posts

September 19 2019 11:43 GMT

#3238

Base stats are not taken away when you class change. The only thing that changes are the class stats that are added on top of your base stats.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 24 2019 07:51 GMT

#3239

Incidentally, Ferdinand is one of the better combat units in Maddening because he is one of the few units that learns Swift Strikes (basically lance Double Lions). Swift Strikes is just a huge deal in post-timeskip Maddening because it lets you blow through a lot of the hard-to-double enemies by auto-doubling them with Swift Strikes.

Ferdinand and Sylvain are just very good once they get going because of Swift Strikes + proficiencies that let them get into Wyvern while still training lances quickly. Getting Death Blow from Brigand + Swift Strikes from A lances means both of them can comfortably ORKO most enemies post-timeskip.