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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 16:52:42
September 17 2015 11:29 GMT
#1
Hey guys, since the other thread was closed I've decided to make a new one:

http://www.littlewargame.com/play/

There's a browser RTS that has been around for some time and it' similar to WC2, BW and SC2 but with it's own uniqueness. You don't need to download anything in order to play it.

Please check out this game! Here are the reasons why:

1 There's only one race, so you can play like "Protoss" or like "Zerg" without being limited by picking a race. 2There's one type of resource (Gold, no lumber).
3 Workers and towers are strong (but towers cost more with each additional one)
4 No autocast
5 Proxies and cheeses
6 Tower rushes
7 Fast expanding, simcity, pressure while expanding
8 Multiple building and multiple unit selection, hotkeys, location hotkeys, spell hotkeys.
9 No balled up armies and they don't die in a split second.
10 High potential advantages for microing units, positioning armies, expanding and scouting well.
11 Ladders and match making as well as custom games, friend lists, chat rooms etc.


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Sample of games
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The level of play at the top level quite high. In the series below you'll see mass drops that will remind you of mass shuttle mass reaver + goon or even Bisu/Boxer in some of his crazy drop games (anti air isn't as effective and there's no need to conserve gas). Drops EVERYWHERE.

And you will also see some proxies and cheese.

And the mandatory rage.

Highly recommended. The games get more and more interesting as the series progresses



FPV From Aicy (Top 100 GM in SC2) with commentary (beast vs beast):

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Introduction videos:
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I've decided to create this thread after meeting a few TLers (MasterRey and chan) on my first day of playing this game and I had a 2v2 with them.

Let's make a list of TLers playing this game! If you post your in game account I will update the list.

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Format: littlewargameID(TLnetID)

MasterRey
chan
JieXian
Rocko (EvilChuck)
FullCollapse(GiftPflanZe)
SlammerIV

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xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 11:42:18
September 17 2015 11:39 GMT
#2
Dont watch mage vs Xao.

In fact I wouldn't watch anything without Aicy, veni and YummyBlaBla to be honest. I won't even recommend my own recorded games from that tournament because the level of play drops quite sharply from the top players.

LWG has potential to be really fun though, and supposedly the dev is releasing a patch soon in which he may be adding changes requested by the higher level players in the game.

EDIT: I realize now that is a vod of the whole thing, not just mage vs Xao as the thumbnail suggests. But still many of the games aren't worth watching.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 11:46:51
September 17 2015 11:42 GMT
#3
On September 17 2015 20:39 xccam wrote:
Dont watch mage vs Xao.

In fact I wouldn't watch anything without Aicy, veni and YummyBlaBla to be honest. I won't even recommend my own recorded games from that tournament because the level of play drops quite sharply from the top players.

LWG has potential to be really fun though, and supposedly the dev is releasing a patch soon in which he may be adding changes requesting by the higher level players in the game.

EDIT: I realize now that is a vod of the whole thing, not just mage vs Xao as the thumbnail suggests. But still many of the games aren't worth watching.


Thanks for the reply, please do post some better videos as I am new to the scene, and I was already impressed by the level of play in those games
I will edit the OP by only showcasing the best game if you'd post some links.
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xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
September 17 2015 11:51 GMT
#4
No that video is the final match, so its probably good, it is yummy vs veni. when you look at it it says Mage vs Xao which is an awful game.

There are some fpvods of aicy and yummy playing as well which you might find interesting, although I believe they are Beast vs Beast dragon wars, as that was the patch meta when they were recorded.

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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1979 Posts
September 17 2015 12:19 GMT
#5
Good game in general but it has a really confusing meta game. Mass catapults/ballista all over? wtf?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 13:11:07
September 17 2015 13:09 GMT
#6
On September 17 2015 21:19 TaShadan wrote:
Good game in general but it has a really confusing meta game. Mass catapults/ballista all over? wtf?


Haha on the contrary I was impressed by that style. As it reminds me so much of PvP in BW.

There are many effective ways to play it. You aren't limited to catapults and balistas. For example the game above posted by xccam showed a different style .

Thanks xccam for the links. Please feel free to post more!
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1979 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 13:40:41
September 17 2015 13:39 GMT
#7
PvP in bw seriously? So catapults are what? Goons? and Ballista is the reaver? Or the other way around? Oo Where are speed zeals, dts and hts?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 14:03:08
September 17 2015 13:57 GMT
#8
On September 17 2015 22:39 TaShadan wrote:
PvP in bw seriously? So catapults are what? Goons? and Ballista is the reaver? Or the other way around? Oo Where are speed zeals, dts and hts?


I was only referring to goon shuttle reaver in the videos there are aoe spells and invisibility spells but I haven't watched a game that was so developed yet. It was only released last year :D

Balistas are like anti air goons
Catapults are weaker reavers but more massable
Airships are shuttles

Except in this series they drop like crazy and abuse the projectiles and dropships like what boxer did by taking out many goons with a dropship and 2 tanks
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GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
September 17 2015 16:26 GMT
#9
Yeah pretty good game,picked it up again just recently.

New Patch also looks kinda good from what I was allowed to test on the patch map.

Only thing which annoys me right now is the huge defenders advandtage in the mid and late game.
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EvilChuck
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany71 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 11:46:25
September 22 2015 11:43 GMT
#10
This game is really fun, my ingame account is Rocko.

IT FEELS SO SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH :D
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
September 22 2015 13:17 GMT
#11
On September 22 2015 20:43 EvilChuck wrote:
This game is really fun, my ingame account is Rocko.

IT FEELS SO SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH :D


ADDED! GLHF

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Schakal111
Profile Joined September 2013
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 14:26:26
September 22 2015 14:24 GMT
#12
nice game, its fun and woow! there are chat rooms ;D thx
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-23 07:24:44
September 23 2015 07:23 GMT
#13
On September 22 2015 23:24 Schakal111 wrote:
nice game, its fun and woow! there are chat rooms ;D thx


yes littlewargame - 1, bnet 2.0 - 0 ;D

please do post your in game ID so that we can add each other's friend list !

@GiftPflanZe and @xccom too
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GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
September 23 2015 10:54 GMT
#14
My littlewargame game ID is FullCollapse
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
September 24 2015 09:18 GMT
#15
On September 23 2015 19:54 GiftPflanZe wrote:
My littlewargame game ID is FullCollapse


added!

Just had a game vs rocko where I went for mages thinking i can smash some face with fireball. Turns out, after testing it deals less than 20 damage if I hit spot on, and it's very difficult to so it so it usually does less damage. Needless to say I got owned that game thinking it was at least half as good as high templars
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AicyDC
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom67 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 09:48:33
September 24 2015 09:42 GMT
#16
It's a fun game, I recommend it to anyone who wants to chillax after losing lots of frustrating games to protoss.

It's certainly got it's flaws (of which I complain about regularly to the dev and so - he's improving), but it doesn't have any of the terrible terrible damage of sc2 or bullshit spells like forcefield which can make SC2 very frustrating and games coming down to just 2 seconds of miscontrol of your army.

The community is very cool mainly I believe because of the lobby that you are looking at and is the majority of your screen whenever you are outside of a game/replay, and is part of what makes the game what it is - social and casual.

That said, despite it being a very social and casual game there it is certainly playable at a high level and although it appears to have a very low skill cap there is actually a lot more room for skill than you might think; I'm a top 100 GM on EU and feel like I have a unforeseeable amount of room for mechanical improvement in littlewargame. In my opinion skill caps don't exist really - the things that allow an inferior player to win in an esport is random/luck elements and tiny and quick mistakes that are easily made being huge and unrecoverable, mattering far more than doing everything else perfect - these are both things that are ubiquitous in SC2 and very rare in LWG.

And since you asked for more links, here is a FPV of a game I played against YummyBlaBla (me and him are undeniably the two best players for a while now) on a mod map with changes that will soon be implemented into the standard game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2pSCYXw9bQ
It wasn't raining when noah built the ark
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 17:47:48
September 24 2015 16:54 GMT
#17
On September 24 2015 18:42 AicyDC wrote:
It's a fun game, I recommend it to anyone who wants to chillax after losing lots of frustrating games to protoss.

It's certainly got it's flaws (of which I complain about regularly to the dev and so - he's improving), but it doesn't have any of the terrible terrible damage of sc2 or bullshit spells like forcefield which can make SC2 very frustrating and games coming down to just 2 seconds of miscontrol of your army.

The community is very cool mainly I believe because of the lobby that you are looking at and is the majority of your screen whenever you are outside of a game/replay, and is part of what makes the game what it is - social and casual.

That said, despite it being a very social and casual game there it is certainly playable at a high level and although it appears to have a very low skill cap there is actually a lot more room for skill than you might think; I'm a top 100 GM on EU and feel like I have a unforeseeable amount of room for mechanical improvement in littlewargame. In my opinion skill caps don't exist really - the things that allow an inferior player to win in an esport is random/luck elements and tiny and quick mistakes that are easily made being huge and unrecoverable, mattering far more than doing everything else perfect - these are both things that are ubiquitous in SC2 and very rare in LWG.

And since you asked for more links, here is a FPV of a game I played against YummyBlaBla (me and him are undeniably the two best players for a while now) on a mod map with changes that will soon be implemented into the standard game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2pSCYXw9bQ


wow that's a very nice game to watch, thanks! Do post your FPVs here! That beast vs beast resembled a BW zvz game :D

is yummyblabla from sc2 too?
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AicyDC
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom67 Posts
September 25 2015 10:22 GMT
#18
YummyBlaBla played BW, WC3 and Dota a lot and a bit of SC2.
It wasn't raining when noah built the ark
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1979 Posts
September 25 2015 17:44 GMT
#19
Never heard of YummyBlaBla in BW. Whats his BW aka?
Total Annihilation Zero
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel433 Posts
September 25 2015 21:54 GMT
#20
I'm sold. Just signed up. For some reason you can't have a space in your last name though (wat)
Kasto
Profile Joined May 2010
473 Posts
September 25 2015 22:17 GMT
#21
Played it a bit when it was mentioned on TL last time and it brought back some nice WC2 nostalgia. Hope it the best!
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
September 26 2015 01:50 GMT
#22
Super great game, I encourage anyone who likes BW or sc2 to check it out. If you needs someone to play with just message me if Im online, my ingame name is SlammerIV.
YummyBlaBla
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada72 Posts
September 26 2015 06:09 GMT
#23
Hi, since I was ungraciously mentioned in this thread, I might as well post...
I have no major accomplishments like Aicy, who's one of the best zergs in the UK, but I have played a lot of RTS's in the past, such as BW and WC3. I was never near the status as a "good player". I'm just a casual guy who plays for fun and competitively amongst friends.
With that being said, it doesn't take much to be good at LWG because of the simplicity of the game with very few unit interactions and low APM requirements. However, it can also be said that the game is a bit counter-intuitive when compared to popular games like SC2. It's a bit frustrating to hear people say "the game is like SC2", when in fact, it is more similar to WC2, where both players have access to the same units, so good on the OP.
The game indeed has the potential to be a casually competitive game, but we'll see in the upcoming patch, where the problems of a "never-ending game" will be addressed. The amount of players right now playing at the "good level" is very low, as there are more Bronze players than Diamond and above players. This I feel is a huge problem for newcoming decent RTS players as they will immediately find the game boring with little challenge.
If you pour water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1979 Posts
September 26 2015 11:39 GMT
#24
On September 26 2015 10:50 SlammerIV wrote:
Super great game, I encourage anyone who likes BW or sc2 to check it out. If you needs someone to play with just message me if Im online, my ingame name is SlammerIV.


I loved BW and i played a lot in the past. I also checked out LWG and it is a nice game but unfortunately nothing for me in the long run.
Total Annihilation Zero
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 16:55:33
September 26 2015 16:43 GMT
#25
On September 26 2015 15:09 YummyBlaBla wrote:
Hi, since I was ungraciously mentioned in this thread, I might as well post...
I have no major accomplishments like Aicy, who's one of the best zergs in the UK, but I have played a lot of RTS's in the past, such as BW and WC3. I was never near the status as a "good player". I'm just a casual guy who plays for fun and competitively amongst friends.
With that being said, it doesn't take much to be good at LWG because of the simplicity of the game with very few unit interactions and low APM requirements. However, it can also be said that the game is a bit counter-intuitive when compared to popular games like SC2. It's a bit frustrating to hear people say "the game is like SC2", when in fact, it is more similar to WC2, where both players have access to the same units, so good on the OP.
The game indeed has the potential to be a casually competitive game, but we'll see in the upcoming patch, where the problems of a "never-ending game" will be addressed. The amount of players right now playing at the "good level" is very low, as there are more Bronze players than Diamond and above players. This I feel is a huge problem for newcoming decent RTS players as they will immediately find the game boring with little challenge.


ungraciously? We all thought you were a fantastic player, as seen from the OP video. I was really impressed. In fact xccam wouldn't watch anything without Aicy, veni and you, YummyBlaBla.

Only tashadan said never heard of you before, well which is true, none of us know you from the BW scene

Yes, naturally for a new browser game there aren't many good players, but like us can just play play with their friends who are at our skill level, which is why we have to gather our friends from TL and other places.

How is it counter-intuitive?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 16:53:14
September 26 2015 16:50 GMT
#26
On September 26 2015 10:50 SlammerIV wrote:
Super great game, I encourage anyone who likes BW or sc2 to check it out. If you needs someone to play with just message me if Im online, my ingame name is SlammerIV.


added to the list!
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GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
October 05 2015 15:46 GMT
#27
A new patch is out,which,in my opinion helped the game alot.
Houses are 125g now and most units are more expensive now,which results rewarding the player who wins the fights more.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
October 05 2015 15:57 GMT
#28
On October 06 2015 00:46 GiftPflanZe wrote:
A new patch is out,which,in my opinion helped the game alot.
Houses are 125g now and most units are more expensive now,which results rewarding the player who wins the fights more.


that's interesting. I'm not sure how the price change in units will affect the game yet but houses were just too expensive
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GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
October 28 2015 09:15 GMT
#29
Thanks to reddit ads the playerbase is now rising quite rapidly.Also a new patch has hit,again improving the game in a great way,removing the tower upgrade leads to player actually attacking expos with one turret standing.
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evilMage
Profile Joined October 2015
5 Posts
October 31 2015 13:05 GMT
#30
Awesome! This brings me back the WC2 sweet time.
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
January 27 2019 23:53 GMT
#31
Littlewargame is still going strong with the latest balance patch putting in probably the best 1v1 state it has ever had.
Join the discussion on Discord: https://discord.gg/WBUtXdP

There is a $48 prize pool tournament scheduled for Feb 2 if anyone is interested in checking out some competitive lwg
https://challonge.com/LWGCup
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
January 28 2019 00:30 GMT
#32
Here is a video showcasing the latest in high level gameplay.



SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 17:31:51
February 02 2019 16:37 GMT
#33
We are having a super hype Tournament today! Check out the details:
https://challonge.com/LWGCup

Also I wrote a breakdown of the notable players:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Littlewargame/comments/alwy4d/tournament_breakdown_by_slammeriv/

Stream links:
https://www.twitch.tv/itanocircus

https://www.twitch.tv/slammeriv
Come by and watch, it will be super sick!!
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-04 17:31:23
February 04 2019 16:43 GMT
#34
is there still no way to get rid of the X that comes up when you scroll to the top on chrome? I used to play this a bit when it first came out but I was always extremely frustrated by that.

e: well Firefox works at least, guess I can use that.
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
February 05 2019 08:15 GMT
#35
On February 05 2019 01:43 Garrl wrote:
is there still no way to get rid of the X that comes up when you scroll to the top on chrome? I used to play this a bit when it first came out but I was always extremely frustrated by that.

e: well Firefox works at least, guess I can use that.


Huh, that X thing never bothers me, I find that firefox has a far greater issue where Shift click brings up a context menu, which is borderline unplayable as making buildings and shifting workers back to mine becomes a huge pain.
frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
February 07 2019 11:39 GMT
#36
Just played this for 5 minutes and quit because I was going for a coffee.

Seems fun and well made. Also really EZ to run and get a friend to join you. Heck, you only have to provide a link.

All in all that's a huge plus!
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frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
February 07 2019 19:09 GMT
#37
How do you prevent the windows bar from popping up when scrolling down, great game so far :D
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SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
February 07 2019 19:37 GMT
#38
On February 08 2019 04:09 frontliner2 wrote:
How do you prevent the windows bar from popping up when scrolling down, great game so far :D


If you hit F8 it should go to full screen mode and there should not be any major UI annoyances.

Note the game works best on Chrome, other browsers can be laggey or have more annoying UI stuff.
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