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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 22 2015 10:21 GMT
#1221
On August 22 2015 19:19 jonich0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 18:33 bluzi wrote:
So havent followed the scene aside from the occasional tourny , are TSM and Fnatic that ahead of everyone else ? it seems like everyone thinks that they are.

fnatic is for sure.

For me, TSM definitely still has more to do to truly separate themselves from the rest of the elite teams below fnatic (EnvyUs, Navi, VP, and a motivated NiP). TSM have been hyped hard because they were able to beat fnatic a few times (super rare for any single team to do with any consistency) some months ago, which led to a handful of great tournament finishes (albeit not exactly the "biggest" tournaments). They still have yet to even reach the final of a major though, and historically have been known to choke (in some people's eyes) in the QF and semifinal rounds of the bigger tournaments (especially during the Fetish era). They're an elite team for sure, but to me they still have something to prove (getting more consistent top results for a longer period of time) to rival a team like fnatic, which has been pretty damn dominant for such a long period of time.

EnvyUs are interesting because they were considered the closest team to fnatic for a while in 2014 but started to fall way off in 2015 and seemed a bit unmotivated after winning their first major. After changing two players recently they also have a bit to prove with this new lineup, but there's no denying the insane potential they have with all the experience and skill they have, plus the KennyS factor. Given the newness of the lineup this may not be their tournament yet, but we'll see.

Along with TSM, Navi is one of those elite teams that is on the upswing in 2015 but also has yet to reach a major final... with fnatic on the other side of the bracket and given their recent uptake in form you would think this is the prime time for these two to deliver on all the hype they've been getting, on the big stage.


Thanks for the run down
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
August 22 2015 10:23 GMT
#1222
nice half
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 22 2015 10:23 GMT
#1223
Na'Vi got all their wins through an aggressive B defense.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 22 2015 10:24 GMT
#1224
one last question :S hhhh , why did they traded off Shox , i thought he was the best player in the world lately no ? or it was last year ?
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 22 2015 10:25 GMT
#1225
On August 22 2015 19:24 bluzi wrote:
one last question :S hhhh , why did they traded off Shox , i thought he was the best player in the world lately no ? or it was last year ?

He was in 2013 and early 2014. Now it's the olofmeister show.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
August 22 2015 10:25 GMT
#1226
On August 22 2015 19:20 KobraKay wrote:
I there. I haven't watched CS for a few weeks...is KennyS not the super AWper anymore? nV favours Happy with the awp?

Kenny is still an awesome AWPer, but not as awesome as he used to be. What baffled me the most was that envy actually bothered to ever use an awp, it suits their t-side inferno so bad!

Fantastic match so far!
"NO" -Has
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 22 2015 10:26 GMT
#1227
On August 22 2015 19:24 bluzi wrote:
one last question :S hhhh , why did they traded off Shox , i thought he was the best player in the world lately no ? or it was last year ?

shox wanted to stay with smithzz first and secondly he didn't agree about happy about the direction nV was taking :it was shox + smithzz against kioshima happy and nbk
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 22 2015 10:27 GMT
#1228
That was such a sick midround call from zeus. Fake Arch to B backstab so that they get a free kill on kennyS
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 22 2015 10:27 GMT
#1229
kennyS throwing the round :S
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 22 2015 10:29 GMT
#1230
On August 22 2015 19:20 KobraKay wrote:
I there. I haven't watched CS for a few weeks...is KennyS not the super AWper anymore? nV favours Happy with the awp?


They swap around sometimes.
If kennyS is confident, he gets the awp, if not, Happy will take it, something like that. On double awp setups they are both. On triple, kio helps. :D
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
August 22 2015 10:30 GMT
#1231
On August 22 2015 19:25 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 19:20 KobraKay wrote:
I there. I haven't watched CS for a few weeks...is KennyS not the super AWper anymore? nV favours Happy with the awp?

Kenny is still an awesome AWPer, but not as awesome as he used to be. What baffled me the most was that envy actually bothered to ever use an awp, it suits their t-side inferno so bad!

Fantastic match so far!


Thanks!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
August 22 2015 10:31 GMT
#1232
kioshima as an anchor for envy
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 22 2015 10:32 GMT
#1233
nV needs a miracle right now
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 22 2015 10:34 GMT
#1234
Their play looks sloppy mechanics-wise.
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kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
August 22 2015 10:34 GMT
#1235
Good terrorist play is so awesome to watch!

Ps please dont watchlist me NSA.
"NO" -Has
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 22 2015 10:35 GMT
#1236
kennyS and Happy just fish for those kills with the awp damn.
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
August 22 2015 10:37 GMT
#1237
WOW, that smoke to save the burn... Solid!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 22 2015 10:39 GMT
#1238
kio with 3 kills only. OMG
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
August 22 2015 10:42 GMT
#1239
HOLY SHIT that defuse
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 22 2015 10:42 GMT
#1240
nbk the very definition of a clutch player
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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