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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 21 2015 14:01 GMT
#741
People can complain all they want about format, but if a team beats another team, that team deserves to advance. Kinguin deserves it over C9, as sad as that makes me (and my sig).
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 14:02:46
August 21 2015 14:02 GMT
#742
He did not say anything against the format when c9 beat mouz
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 21 2015 14:02 GMT
#743
on a sidenote yay Joe Miller \O/
WriterXiao8~~
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 21 2015 14:04 GMT
#744
At least Bo1 format for CounterStrike isn't as bad as for Starcraft2.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 21 2015 14:05 GMT
#745
Ok for all the schadenfreude, i also think there should be bo3, bo1 is just stupid for a major
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 21 2015 14:06 GMT
#746
BO1 is indeed stupid.
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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 21 2015 14:08 GMT
#747
First of all, I think the format they introduced is good, but I think the 2nd group stage should be played round robin with the team coming from winners match having 1-0 advantage. Could get us some very entertaining tie breakers :p

That said, I don't get the hate for Kinguin. Everyone is saying like they are bad, but they are not. Sure, they are not that good as a team and they don't have a good in-game leader (Legija not that experienced in the coach/in-game leader role yet) but they still have some of the best aimers in the world on that team. Everyone knows how good Scream is, rain is also amazing, the others are also pretty great.

From watching that game, I get the feeling that both teams were basically equal to each other, with Kinguin having more personal skill and C9 obviously the teamwork. With D2 being such aim heavy map, nobody should be surprised Kinguin won. The manner in which the game was played could have been fully expected by everyone on that map, with very slight edge going to C9, but it is not that much of a surprise to see Kinguin win as you guys are making it to be...
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 21 2015 14:09 GMT
#748
It's sad that it has taken this many pages for people to say that after the 100 "lulz clown9 posts". Such an EU-centric community.

If Fnatic or Envy went out on BO1 there'd be a riot.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 21 2015 14:10 GMT
#749
EternalEnvy may have left the org but the name unfortunately stuck around
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 14:11:21
August 21 2015 14:11 GMT
#750
No because Cloud9 played absolutely miserably.

People rioted when TSM lost in a BO1 at ESL ESEA LAN against Fnatic in the group stages.

Or did we forget that?

It's not a EU-centric thing, Cloud9 just played ass.
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7103 Posts
August 21 2015 14:11 GMT
#751
On August 21 2015 23:09 Crownlol wrote:
It's sad that it has taken this many pages for people to say that after the 100 "lulz clown9 posts". Such an EU-centric community.

If Fnatic or Envy went out on BO1 there'd be a riot.

Honestly i dont mind BO1s at all. Its not really a problem for me, never been.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 14:13:21
August 21 2015 14:12 GMT
#752
On August 21 2015 23:09 Crownlol wrote:
It's sad that it has taken this many pages for people to say that after the 100 "lulz clown9 posts". Such an EU-centric community.

If Fnatic or Envy went out on BO1 there'd be a riot.

People were complaining about Bo1s on the first pages of Cologne threads, I complained multiple times at length that the Bo1 sucks and that the qualifiers above all else are unfair.

I didn't complain when Mouz got beaten by C9 because I have come to terms with it even though I am a Mouz fan.

you only started whining when C9 got beaten, funny how that works.
WriterXiao8~~
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 14:14:35
August 21 2015 14:13 GMT
#753
On August 21 2015 23:09 Crownlol wrote:
It's sad that it has taken this many pages for people to say that after the 100 "lulz clown9 posts". Such an EU-centric community.

If Fnatic or Envy went out on BO1 there'd be a riot.


This has already been said. And there wasn't as many post mocking Cloud9... In fact, most people stayed quite classy on the matter, barring one or two.

You're actually calling out what you're exactly doing.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 21 2015 14:14 GMT
#754
On August 21 2015 23:09 Crownlol wrote:
It's sad that it has taken this many pages for people to say that after the 100 "lulz clown9 posts". Such an EU-centric community.

If Fnatic or Envy went out on BO1 there'd be a riot.


Before anyone else points it out you have to remember that you have to lose 2 maps in a row to go out Your forgetting the implosion against VP

Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 14:15:25
August 21 2015 14:14 GMT
#755
Everyone hates the BO1 format. We've been complaining about it since DreamHack Winter 2013.

However let's be real... it's not like Cloud9 played well and got knocked out, they played badly and got knocked out.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 14:18:59
August 21 2015 14:17 GMT
#756
On August 21 2015 23:09 Crownlol wrote:
It's sad that it has taken this many pages for people to say that after the 100 "lulz clown9 posts". Such an EU-centric community.

If Fnatic or Envy went out on BO1 there'd be a riot.

I would definately riot, yeah. If you are a fan I think you have the right to be upset, not a jock, but upset, regardless of EU or USA
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 21 2015 14:18 GMT
#757
Weren't a lot of people rooting for Cloud9 in the other tournaments anyway? Like, it was so exciting to see an American team finally do well again.

But this... was a horrible performance, and you can't expect people to riot due to that.
Writer
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
August 21 2015 14:19 GMT
#758
Bo3 would be better, but the "upsets" people fear so much with bo1 almost never happens. You still have 30 rounds to play.
"NO" -Has
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 21 2015 14:19 GMT
#759
If anything this forum is NA centric, evident by the amount of people hyping up C9 quite a bit in past tournaments, Teamliquid in general having NA people on it etc.
WriterXiao8~~
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 21 2015 14:20 GMT
#760
Whatever LET'S GO CLG. USA USA USA.
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