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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 21 2015 13:07 GMT
#681
On August 21 2015 22:05 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:01 Kipsate wrote:
I guess the reason why Kingquin plays D2 is because its such an aim heavy map and they have a sick aimer team?

I didn't wager their chances high on basically C9s best map


It was still close, but C9 had terrible calls that had nothing to do with aim or anything.

I mean I understand why C9 lost, im just wondering why Kinguin decided to play on that map in the first place, on paper to me that sounds like suicide.
WriterXiao8~~
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 21 2015 13:07 GMT
#682
On August 21 2015 21:55 Crownlol wrote:
Finalist favorites C9 knocked out by low tier team, GG bo1 system.

The format completely sucks, I agree with that. However, finalist favorites? Really? Sure, they were top4, but the favorites were always Fnatic, Navi and TSM.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 13:08:24
August 21 2015 13:07 GMT
#683
Ah sorry. Yeah, dunno either. When they left it (if they did not pick, don't remember), I basically thought them out already, but, eh.
LiquipediaWanderer
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 13:10:19
August 21 2015 13:07 GMT
#684
On August 21 2015 22:07 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 21 2015 22:01 Kipsate wrote:
I guess the reason why Kingquin plays D2 is because its such an aim heavy map and they have a sick aimer team?

I didn't wager their chances high on basically C9s best map


It was still close, but C9 had terrible calls that had nothing to do with aim or anything.

I mean I understand why C9 lost, im just wondering why Kinguin decided to play on that map in the first place, on paper to me that sounds like suicide.


They didnt decide to play the map, they left it in the pool. The map is generated randomely.

The point is not to just remove the teams best maps if your own map pool is limited.

I think they banned out.... cobble and overpass. C9 would destroy them on both maps. Of all the maps in the pool D2 has the most room for unpolished teams to succeed regardless how good the more experienced team is.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 21 2015 13:09 GMT
#685
On August 21 2015 22:07 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 21 2015 22:01 Kipsate wrote:
I guess the reason why Kingquin plays D2 is because its such an aim heavy map and they have a sick aimer team?

I didn't wager their chances high on basically C9s best map


It was still close, but C9 had terrible calls that had nothing to do with aim or anything.

I mean I understand why C9 lost, im just wondering why Kinguin decided to play on that map in the first place, on paper to me that sounds like suicide.

Technically the randomizer decided it.

Kinguin just banned the maps they're bad at. Not a bad way to approach things.
Writer
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
August 21 2015 13:14 GMT
#686
I'll be really pissed if LG lose to mouz/F3 after kinguim got top 8
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 21 2015 13:15 GMT
#687
I think Mouz will bounce back and defeat both F3 and LG

I believe in Fak
WriterXiao8~~
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
August 21 2015 13:15 GMT
#688
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 21 2015 13:17 GMT
#689
Their recent success was not pure luck and coincidence at all.

It's just, teams were able to prepare for them coming into the major, and that makes things rough for sgares.
Writer
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 13:19:18
August 21 2015 13:18 GMT
#690
On August 21 2015 22:15 iXphobos wrote:
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.


I dont think people give Kinguin enough credit.

Making this observation because C9 lost a BO1 isnt very clever.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 21 2015 13:19 GMT
#691
To be fair Kinguin played like crap CT side. It wasn't a very good game by either team. They both played crap. Kinguin just played less crap.
Writer
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
August 21 2015 13:20 GMT
#692
On August 21 2015 22:18 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:15 iXphobos wrote:
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.


I dont think people give Kinguin enough credit.

Making this observation because C9 lost a BO1 isnt very clever.

Noone who played in this match deserves any credit. That was gold nova CS.
And the more pathetic team lost.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 21 2015 13:20 GMT
#693
On August 21 2015 22:15 iXphobos wrote:
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.


If you're going to claim a team sucks based off of a single Bo1, you must think all teams suck.
SUNSFANNED
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 13:21:49
August 21 2015 13:21 GMT
#694
Kinguin made some mistakes but they not only outaim c9 but they outsmart them a lot of the round loses by Kinguin were based on not having full buys OR just making some weird mistakes like that 26-27 round where the just missplaced the smokes

it wasnt the best game, and i dont think neither team playing like that would beat a better team, but it is what it is
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 21 2015 13:21 GMT
#695
C9 wasn't a fluke. And they're still waaaay better than during the semphis - ShaZham period.
LiquipediaWanderer
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
August 21 2015 13:21 GMT
#696
On August 21 2015 22:20 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:15 iXphobos wrote:
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.


If you're going to claim a team sucks based off of a single Bo1, you must think all teams suck.

Did you watch the match? Any random pug team would have won against either team. xD
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 21 2015 13:23 GMT
#697
On August 21 2015 22:21 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:20 BrownBear wrote:
On August 21 2015 22:15 iXphobos wrote:
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.


If you're going to claim a team sucks based off of a single Bo1, you must think all teams suck.

Did you watch the match? Any random pug team would have won against either team. xD


So you're going to claim that a Bo1 is indicative of a team's overall skill level?

Ok then.
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 21 2015 13:24 GMT
#698
On August 21 2015 22:17 Souma wrote:
Their recent success was not pure luck and coincidence at all.

It's just, teams were able to prepare for them coming into the major, and that makes things rough for sgares.

Thing is, when things don't go their way, they don't have the mental fortitude to pull through. Ska is a very good awper but he couldn't carry them all, shroud had an average game and nothing just disappeared. Only Freak had a good game and it's probably not by chance because he appears to always have a positive mindset.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 21 2015 13:24 GMT
#699
It didn't particulary help that C9 lost both pistol rounds.
WriterXiao8~~
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 13:27:05
August 21 2015 13:25 GMT
#700
On August 21 2015 22:21 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:20 BrownBear wrote:
On August 21 2015 22:15 iXphobos wrote:
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.


If you're going to claim a team sucks based off of a single Bo1, you must think all teams suck.

Did you watch the match? Any random pug team would have won against either team. xD


On August 21 2015 22:20 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:18 Rebs wrote:
On August 21 2015 22:15 iXphobos wrote:
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.


I dont think people give Kinguin enough credit.

Making this observation because C9 lost a BO1 isnt very clever.

Noone who played in this match deserves any credit. That was gold nova CS.
And the more pathetic team lost.


Yes I did see the game.

Your being a douchebag that apparently needs to quote me twice so Im just not going to discuss it. Neither team matters enough for me to take on someone who is so horny to get into an argument they keep refreshing the page and looking for posts that disagree with them not noting they are doing it to the same person.
On August 21 2015 22:23 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 22:21 iXphobos wrote:
On August 21 2015 22:20 BrownBear wrote:
On August 21 2015 22:15 iXphobos wrote:
C9 had the chance to prove they really are a T1 team. And they failed in the most awful way.
Makes you think if their recent succes was all pure luck and coincidence.
Now they're back in 2014, at least in my opinion.


If you're going to claim a team sucks based off of a single Bo1, you must think all teams suck.

Did you watch the match? Any random pug team would have won against either team. xD


So you're going to claim that a Bo1 is indicative of a team's overall skill level?

Ok then.



Dont bother, we all know C9 and Kinguin play Gold Nova CS sitting from our MM perch's
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