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im a wow noob so bear with me here
my friend wants to make a priest or a hunter to play with me. id rather have him play a hunter and need some help with my argument.
my argument consists of:
1. im warlock and priest takes my god damn items.
2. he gets a cat and a gun and traps and stuff
3. hunter doesnt have to heal noobs in dungeon
our only real goal is to slay elves and midgets in ashenvale and stv. we dont really care about doing instances or easy soloing or shit like that.
i also dont have an idea of why priest would be good for pvp so maybe i could be convinced in the other direction.
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Sydney2287 Posts
Why are you paying a monthly fee to 'slay elves and midgets in ashenvale and stv'?
That aside, if you're only playing for fun, let him pick whatever class he wants.
And good priests rock pvp.
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priests won't take your items; shadow priests will but you only suffer alot much much later (in raids which you say you don't care about)
and if you have no idea how to pvp you won't make far in STV anyways which seems to be the case here
and if you gank the wrong people in STV, be prepared to be corpse camped yourself.
and if all you do is gank your gear will equal crap therefore you will fail at ganking anyways
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the question which apparently i left out is whether hunter or priest is better for pvp.
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Shadow Priest > Hunter in pvp.
Hunter > holy/disc Priest in pvp.
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lol he just showed me some shadow priest killing a warrior in 1 hit so i think hes gonna make priest
also i realized who gets items in barrens really isnt that important.
On January 16 2007 15:56 Bockit wrote:
Why are you paying a monthly fee to 'slay elves and midgets in ashenvale and stv'?
i like the warcraft universe and playing the game but it makes me angry that some elf can kill me just because i picked warrior for a class. we felt it was sort of silly to specialize in pve when even a shaman can do it without too much trouble.
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Having somebody who can heal you will help significantly more than a 2nd dps when you're fighting groups bigger than yours.
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thats only true if you can control the fight draeger, if you can't might as well dps one of them down...
and players play the toons, just like in starcraft players play the races, it doesnt matter what class you are and what class they are.
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Sydney2287 Posts
On January 16 2007 18:19 Judicator wrote:
thats only true if you can control the fight draeger, if you can't might as well dps one of them down...
Priest will help you to control the fight more than a hunter.
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On January 16 2007 18:19 Judicator wrote:
and players play the toons, just like in starcraft players play the races, it doesnt matter what class you are and what class they are.
i cant see how a warrior/paladin/shaman can beat a warlock. how do you beat being feared 3 times? fear gives him enough time to do whatever he wants.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Priest will help you level.
Theres no point in theorycrafting 1v1 pvp for warcraft when the most pvp he'll be likely getting to any time soon is being attacked in stv or fighting over mobs in ashenvale.
And earth shock is evil.
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On January 16 2007 18:19 Judicator wrote:
thats only true if you can control the fight draeger, if you can't might as well dps one of them down...
and players play the toons, just like in starcraft players play the races, it doesnt matter what class you are and what class they are.
I can guarantee you that without a healer, you won't be killing more than a few at once. A warlock is overpowered enough that he can dot everything up, chain fear, and keep things under control. The priest is there to shield and heal. Not being able to regain your life bar means that if you are trying to chain kill enemies, you won't be able to. Further, the priest can tell the warlock to lifetap if he's low on mana and can instantly restore those hitpoints.
It does matter about classes in wow, though. If you take the huge 1sided matchups and placed 2 of those classes against each other, the outcome would still be 1 sided. For instance, 2 warriors vs 2 mages, or two mages vs two warlocks. However if you change things around and now have a warrior and a shaman against 2 mages, you now have a much more balanced fight. Healing is huge in wow and the classes that can heal themselves and provide some dps are even more valuable than most of the pure dps classes.
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i dont play wow, but my friend plays a priest and often complain how imba hunter is. from what i understand, priest is a pain in the ass when ... creeping (cant remember the right term) on higher levels. also said that hunther is his worst enemy in pvp, some of them can 1-hit him if they get a crit.
but from what i understand priest/warlock is the deadliest combo in all of wow.
god, wow is all-present. cant even grab a beer/cofee without hearing bout it. i know about wow more than about war3 which i play often and watch reps.
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On January 17 2007 10:29 GeneralCash wrote:
i dont play wow, but my friend plays a priest and often complain how imba hunter is. from what i understand, priest is a pain in the ass when ... creeping (cant remember the right term) on higher levels. also said that hunther is his worst enemy in pvp, some of them can 1-hit him if they get a crit.
but from what i understand priest/warlock is the deadliest combo in all of wow.
god, wow is all-present. cant even grab a beer/cofee without hearing bout it. i know about wow more than about war3 which i play often and watch reps.
Many classes have their vices. WoW really isn't balanced for 1v1 pvp.
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On January 16 2007 16:11 KoveN- wrote:
Shadow Priest > Hunter in pvp.
Hunter > holy/disc Priest in pvp.
did you stop playing in 2.02?  With the right mm/surv build you 2-3 shot any type of priest.
edit: no wow is poorly balanced in 1v1 pvp but then again blizzard says its intended for "group pvp" bleh..
And imo warrior paladin > Priest lock, but mabye thats just me
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On January 16 2007 15:38 Ghin wrote:
im a wow noob so bear with me here
my friend wants to make a priest or a hunter to play with me. id rather have him play a hunter and need some help with my argument.
my argument consists of:
1. im warlock and priest takes my god damn items.
2. he gets a cat and a gun and traps and stuff
3. hunter doesnt have to heal noobs in dungeon
our only real goal is to slay elves and midgets in ashenvale and stv. we dont really care about doing instances or easy soloing or shit like that.
i also dont have an idea of why priest would be good for pvp so maybe i could be convinced in the other direction.
Priests melt faces, hunters do not.
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when you buy wow do you get a free trial or something?
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Sydney2287 Posts
you get a 10day trial which has limited settings on the account such as no mail and no auction housing (mainly to prevent farmers from storing their stuff in numerous free trial accounts).
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what are u talking about
hunters are like the best for lvling
and in 1v1 battle i think hunter is prolly the strongest class right now
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well maybe warlock but then hunter
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On January 24 2007 13:21 travis wrote:
what are u talking about
hunters are like the best for lvling
and in 1v1 battle i think hunter is prolly the strongest class right now
According to my WoW Expansion beta friends, hunters get pretty blah at 70. They don't have much to scale them past what they already have, so just give everybody else 4-6k more hitpoints and have hunters deal pretty similar damage.
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good because currently they are ridiculous
oh hey look im a hunter, i can outrun any melee class while slowing them with my gay arrow shit, while my pet attacks them
oh and also i can lay down gay ice traps to freeze you. i can lay them down IN COMBAT
gayest shit ever
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United States5606 Posts
On January 24 2007 13:21 travis wrote:
what are u talking about
hunters are like the best for lvling
and in 1v1 battle i think hunter is prolly the strongest class right now
Hunters who are specced full marksman should never lose to any caster, ever. The only thing that could possibly beat me when I was full marks specced were demonic sacrific warlocks occasionally and SOME paladins.
So, yeah I agree with travis.
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On January 24 2007 13:21 travis wrote:
what are u talking about
hunters are like the best for lvling
and in 1v1 battle i think hunter is prolly the strongest class right now
He's looking for a class to level with him, not solo level. Warlock + Priest > Warlock + Hunter because of what I mentioned above.
Priests also take much more skill, whereas hunters can just turn on auto-shoot and afk.
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i was replying to vdp]dream who was replying to someone else
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On January 24 2007 15:55 draeger wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2007 13:21 travis wrote:
what are u talking about
hunters are like the best for lvling
and in 1v1 battle i think hunter is prolly the strongest class right now According to my WoW Expansion beta friends, hunters get pretty blah at 70. They don't have much to scale them past what they already have, so just give everybody else 4-6k more hitpoints and have hunters deal pretty similar damage.
FYI i dinged 70 a couple of days ago and i havent had time to get decent dungeongear yet. However wit a variety of blues and ok greens, i aimshot critted a lvl 70 elite for 3000 damage with TS, AotH and Bladefists Breadth. Did the same to a warlock in PvP, and 2900+ crit is standard for aimshot with the normal buffs on. I also critted a lvl 27 warrior for 3566. Screenshot is availiable, although i dont believe this is a rare thing for hunters at 70. My point is just that your friends are wrong
as for travis reply, hunters still cant beat a warrior on fair basis, and a good mage has the upper hand too. Feraldruids are hillariously impossible to beat, if he is not on 5% hp and you got a SS, and with paladins you need AotV and a loooooong road, lthough you probably will die anyway since they can heal to full hp 3 times and cast stunning hammers at you for 1.5k.
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On January 25 2007 01:34 travis wrote:
i was replying to vdp]dream who was replying to someone else
Ok mine was sarcasm, but i'd go ahead and say that Warlocks > Hunters in PvP. But to the guys original question, if you're a noob at the game Hunter is the easiest class to play to start off with.
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Hunters also probably do the least damage out of any DPS class
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On January 29 2007 04:55 BlackJack wrote:Hunters also probably do the least damage out of any DPS class
...pre-2.02
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my friend made a mage and he goes around to everyone and says HEY GUYS I JUST MADE MUFFINS
thats the power of magic folks
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On January 29 2007 07:28 Ghin wrote:
my friend made a mage and he goes around to everyone and says HEY GUYS I JUST MADE MUFFINS
thats the power of magic folks
Mages are quite good once you get geared. Until then, though, you are VERY squishy and die almost instantly to anybody who has gear.
Pre expansion, a mage with the pvp set and good items to fill in the rest of the slots was a tank. I could 2-4 shot most people without cooldowns if something crit and I had about 4500 life (which was pretty high for a mage.) If I blew my cooldowns, I regularly saw 1 shots.
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warlocks are the strongest class in PVP.
edit:
warlocks with any healer is good.
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