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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On January 26 2015 22:28 ahswtini wrote: Why are hostage rescue maps never played in competitive, are they just not inherently balanced by design? basically yes, hostage rescue is just not really balanced (the gameplay and the maps). | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On January 26 2015 22:52 amazingxkcd wrote: basically yes, hostage rescue is just not really balanced (the gameplay and the maps). they made some changes in csgo which made the gameplay more balanced, but the maps are usually awful -- the only decent one is italy but its still very bad compared to bomb maps. office is popular but oh boy is it the shining example of an awful hostage map | ||
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Haee
522 Posts
The CT that's carrying the hostage hilariously enough has portion of his vision obscured and you suffer from a pretty severe movement penalty. You're than expected to travel all the way back to CT spawn to win the round, so it's next to impossible to actually win the round by objective when you're at a player deficit. Most rounds are won by team elimination. Finally the economy system makes no god damn sense. CT's would usually find themselves money starved because of the severe disadvantage BUT if you actually win a round by rescuing a hostage, you are literally given close to money cap as your reward. It's a hilarious game mode but it needs to go through an extreme overhaul as a whole for you to consider taking it seriously. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5600 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On January 26 2015 22:28 ahswtini wrote: Why are hostage rescue maps never played in competitive, are they just not inherently balanced by design? Yes, they're generally terrible for competitive play. One big reason is that Defusal maps are designed in such a way that it spreads the defenders out. If all 5 Ts can camp one hallway, the game would just be 15-0 for Ts every half. Even de_Dust, which is a horrible competitive map, has at least 2 main avenues of advancing to bombsites (though underpass is hardly viable). | ||
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
On January 27 2015 22:33 Crownlol wrote: Yes, they're generally terrible for competitive play. One big reason is that Defusal maps are designed in such a way that it spreads the defenders out. If all 5 Ts can camp one hallway, the game would just be 15-0 for Ts every half. Even de_Dust, which is a horrible competitive map, has at least 2 main avenues of advancing to bombsites (though underpass is hardly viable). That just depends on map design, which most hostage maps are terrible at. Sure, if you spawn the hostages in T spawn then it makes it impossible. You just need to design the map so that the Ts actually have to move in order to defend the hostages. The economy system is just broken though so that would need fixing first. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On January 27 2015 23:54 DEN1ED wrote: That just depends on map design, which most hostage maps are terrible at. Sure, if you spawn the hostages in T spawn then it makes it impossible. You just need to design the map so that the Ts actually have to move in order to defend the hostages. The economy system is just broken though so that would need fixing first. I wouldn't say it's broken, it was just designed around T's being on the offensive and CT's on the defensive. And hostage maps put you in the complete opposite situation. | ||
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