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DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
March 05 2015 05:34 GMT
#241
On March 01 2015 11:01 MassHysteria wrote:
Definitely not just you. Everytime I changed resolution I had to switch sensitivitiy. You could change the m_yaw cfg settings but I just stuck to 1080p and my mouse settings from there (900dpi/.99 for me).

edit: also, if you use raw input 1, your fps cap makes a difference in a way so make sure your settings are okay on that too. (fps_max 0 -or 999 or w/e- for unlocking)


Ok good to know, thanks a lot. Not sure what m_yaw is for so I won't touch that command, I don't wanna screw up anything. I also don't use raw input so I guess I'm good.

On March 04 2015 23:19 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Countersrike isn't a MOBA. Those kind of rigidly defined roles don't exist. Your role isn't deigned by what you did for 5 seconds of the game. Everybody can entry when circumstances dictate. Everybody should "support" aka teamwork and throwning grenades. Everybody works as a team. There's the awper, who uses the awp but quite frequently you will see pro teams with 2 awpers. For everybody else there is riflers I guess? But it is less of a role, and more of a descriptor of the weapon used.

And then there's Get_Right.


Yeah I was about to say something similar. Not sure where people get the idea that roles are defined like a class-based FPS. IMO, there's only 2 real roles in cs, the main awper and the IGL. Other than that, everyone will have different roles during the game and players will often fulfill more than one in a single round.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 05 2015 06:01 GMT
#242
There are 'roles' as such, but they're most often positionally based and very map / team specific. It does make sense that you'd like your players to be attacking / defending the areas they're most comfortable (especially on CT).

For example, old NiP were /are probably one of the least flexible teams in terms of initial setups. They start off with the same generic positions, but it's their rotations and in-round reads that make them great.

e.g. Get Right plays outside on Nuke on CT, while Forest goes for the boost as T pretty much every round. On Inferno, Friberg is the typical entry fragger at banana, but on Nuke it was often Fifflaren going through radio / ramp.

That's not to say they don't mix it up, but you can quite easily identify their default setup on every map. The key is that while someone might favour a specific role on one map, they could equally play something completely different on another.

A team like Titan on the other hand are much more strat focussed, frequently trying to engineer scenarios for KennyS to go mental.
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lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 21:47:38
March 05 2015 21:46 GMT
#243
On March 04 2015 23:19 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Countersrike isn't a MOBA. Those kind of rigidly defined roles don't exist. Your role isn't deigned by what you did for 5 seconds of the game. Everybody can entry when circumstances dictate. Everybody should "support" aka teamwork and throwning grenades. Everybody works as a team. There's the awper, who uses the awp but quite frequently you will see pro teams with 2 awpers. For everybody else there is riflers I guess? But it is less of a role, and more of a descriptor of the weapon used.

And then there's Get_Right.


Yeah but even if they change which player will be playing which role in some certain maps, does not this give us there are "roles"? Friberg we say is the - Entry Fragger but probably would not prefer lurking type play. There is no class in this game, i understand this, but there are roles, right, and you are able to play every role during a round since the gametype is flexible compared to mobas?

And i dont see a lurker with M4A4 or i see some players are very bad when they have a position / role who is "rotating", hence they hold sites.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 05 2015 23:05 GMT
#244
There's a difference between a role in a team where you have practiced certain T or CT strats, and "roles" like entry fragger or lurker. What happens when your so called entry fragger dies early? Or any of the "roles"? Does the plan just go up in smoke then? (Or running through smoke hue hue hue.) CS is about gaining info and making use of it. Taking risks that gives you the highest chance of winning the game. Suprising things tend to happen, and that's what makes CS exciting.

Somebody who is lurking are just that, a player who happens to be flanking or trying to be in an unexpected spot in an advantageous position. They aren't designated that role, they just happen to be doing it. They might be more skilled at that situation than other players, or they might be naturally disposed towards it. It doesn't mean that team has a plan for that player to be a lurker; he is simply doing what he thinks is best for that situation. Friberg for instance, if he is the first person to run into a site is most likely to be dead and in any case is in no position to flank since he would be sitting on the bomb site or running headlong into the rotation.

For a pro team, a role would be something like being on a CT B mirage jumping repeatedly for info, and the other guy supporting him somewhere else ready to throw a smoke when needed, or to rotate to A if needed. Or carefully throwing preassigned nades in a certain spot and order and running in. Those are roles for the payer in a preset plan in a team. The type of "roles" you have described don't really exist, they are just descriptions of what the player is doing at the time. The AWPer can be described as a role, but only it really will be the same player every round.
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 06 2015 04:41 GMT
#245
On March 06 2015 08:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
The AWPer can be described as a role, but only it really will be the same player every round.


KennyS, professional carry for Titan
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 06 2015 11:45 GMT
#246
I don't understand your meaning? What's a carry?
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
March 06 2015 11:49 GMT
#247
On March 06 2015 20:45 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I don't understand your meaning? What's a carry?

Can't tell... Are you serious?
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 06 2015 12:20 GMT
#248
Carry means to me that someone is getting all the kills, and by extension is the sole reason why the team is winning rounds. I really don't see how this is related to his qouting of a specific sentence of mine, hence the question.
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 06 2015 12:39 GMT
#249
On March 06 2015 21:20 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Carry means to me that someone is getting all the kills, and by extension is the sole reason why the team is winning rounds. I really don't see how this is related to his qouting of a specific sentence of mine, hence the question.


Because Titan is unlike every other team in the game. Obviously there's a hierarchy in most teams, where you'll expect certain players do be doing better on average, but not to the extent of Titan.

Titan plan everything around Kenny. All their strats are based solely around getting Kenny into a position where he can do his thing. It's a unique position in CSGO because there's no combination anywhere else of a player who's single handedly capable of destroying another team, combined with a team who's willing to sacrifice their own plays to make it happen.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2805 Posts
March 06 2015 15:48 GMT
#250
There are other teams that run a "star AWPer" sort of setup though. Imo it gets more attention because its flashy moreso than because it's terribly great or consistent. You'll see people dink the first two-three people rushing a site with a rifle to not much fanfare, but if ptr or someone drops multiple people rushing a site it looks a hell of a lot more impressive than the rifler's hold.
Trainninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia105 Posts
March 07 2015 13:43 GMT
#251
Hi, started playing a bit of cs with my friends in my spare time.

Simple question:

I'm planting the bomb at the very edge of a site, can i turn entire 360 degrees to look at my surroundings without interrupting the plant?
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 14:02:43
March 07 2015 14:00 GMT
#252
I dont think so.

btw you dont need to plant it at edges every time, most of the edges are widely exposed.
justjuice
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand165 Posts
March 08 2015 06:28 GMT
#253
Newbie looking to buy CSGO.

I've read that CSGO goes on sale when tournaments are on and I see that ESL One Katowice is coming up soon. Does anyone know if there will be a sale during this time?

Thanks for your help!!
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-08 07:32:38
March 08 2015 07:32 GMT
#254
Don't have to plant at the edge of the site, but if you're at the very edge, the direction you look could affect whether or not you're in the bomb plant area.

Should go on sale on that Sunday. Maybe 50%.
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justjuice
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand165 Posts
March 08 2015 08:25 GMT
#255
Thanks for the reply!
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
March 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#256
I got a question about a certain value in the net_graph. There's a value named Var and I'm not entirely what it is. I did some testing recently and when I put my fps_max to something like 200+ the value change often and goes to something anywhere between 0.5 and 2 but when I put my fps_max to something like 65, the value stay in the 0.5 and rarely goes to 1+.

Does it affect anything gameplay wise, like bullet registration or something similar? Should I try to keep this value as low as possible?
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
March 08 2015 23:26 GMT
#257
That's variance. Your system struggles to keep 200+ fps constant but has no problems when fps_max is 65. It's very important to keep the variance as low as possible but if you're not noticing any microstutters or similar during gameplay, I'd personally prefer the higher FPS with slightly more var as opposed to 65 fps.
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 09 2015 01:26 GMT
#258
On March 09 2015 08:26 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
That's variance. Your system struggles to keep 200+ fps constant but has no problems when fps_max is 65. It's very important to keep the variance as low as possible but if you're not noticing any microstutters or similar during gameplay, I'd personally prefer the higher FPS with slightly more var as opposed to 65 fps.


Var on net_graph is a server side thing—it's essentially a measure of how good the server is. The higher the variance, the worse shot registration will appear. You can't do anything about it, just report the ones which are 2+. Ideally you want servers where var is below 1
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
March 09 2015 02:05 GMT
#259
There's 2 vars the crazy munchkin. Pretty sure DPK is talking about the one next to FPS, not the server var. :p
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 09 2015 02:27 GMT
#260
On March 09 2015 11:05 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
There's 2 vars the crazy munchkin. Pretty sure DPK is talking about the one next to FPS, not the server var. :p


Is this net_graph 1?
I swear I've never seen it... :[
In that case then, it really doesn't matter at all then.
As long as your FPS stays above 60 / 120 / 144 (depending on your monitor refresh rate) then all is good and you won't notice a thing.

Mine jumps around randomly from 150 to 300 all the time. Though capping the framerate does reduce the load on your graphics card, which is a good thing.
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