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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
On April 15 2016 19:44 Reaps wrote: Yes some people that applied only a week ago got in. Well I applied the day OW was announced. Never got invited to any form of beta at any point in time. Also it appears as if this wawe of invites was heavily skewed towards people from NA (4-5 times more likely to be invited according to a survey). | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10910 Posts
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On April 15 2016 20:27 Hider wrote: Well I applied the day OW was announced. Never got invited to any form of beta at any point in time. Also it appears as if this wawe of invites was heavily skewed towards people from NA (4-5 times more likely to be invited according to a survey). I also applied the first day, and got my first beta invite today. And yes i read that EU people only had 15 minutes of invites while NA had almost all day. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On April 15 2016 20:34 Reaps wrote: I also applied the first day, and got my first beta invite today. And yes i read that EU people only had 15 minutes of invites while NA had almost all day. Overwatch Twitter said that it was a miscommunication, flagging started at the same time for everyone. | ||
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Denmark9447 Posts
On April 15 2016 20:34 Reaps wrote: I also applied the first day, and got my first beta invite today. And yes i read that EU people only had 15 minutes of invites while NA had almost all day. Well Blizzard said they started at the same time, and I don't think they are lying. But for some reason they just flagged much fewer EU accounts than NA accounts. This survey points a pretty convincing picture. More NA people who responded (at this timezone) got into the beta than people from EU. So unless some (alot) of people are lying when giving responses, this is pretty insane. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1m2fSN9U_VSRI9pc5FTPD9sw2hkCn2oPJwaBeFsMRau0/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Either way it does seem a lot less EU players did get in, however ill wait some more hours before i judge because there is still many at work and were sleeping when the invites took place. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/c5kXMwD.png) There's only a 9% difference between NA and EU in the first graph (granted, that means EU has only 2/3 of the numbers that NA has), while the striking difference comes from how many people in the EU report not getting in (76% of all respondents; more people in absolute numbers than reported getting into any region). I'd wager this is mostly due to the fact that most people that took the survey were from the EU. | ||
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Denmark9447 Posts
Wait, that survey doesn't quite say that way more NA accounts are flagged, it says that there are a lot more people from the EU that didn't get in: You compare them to each other obviously, which gives us the percentage: 71% of NA respondent got in. 25% of EU respondants got in. So either the respondants are lying or EU got fucked. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22446 Posts
On April 15 2016 21:07 Ghanburighan wrote: Wait, that survey doesn't quite say that way more NA accounts are flagged, it says that there are a lot more people from the EU that didn't get in: There's only a 9% difference between NA and EU in the first graph (granted, that means EU has only 2/3 of the numbers that NA has), while the striking difference comes from how many people in the EU report not getting in (76% of all respondents; more people in absolute numbers than reported getting into any region). I'd wager this is mostly due to the fact that most people that took the survey were from the EU. Yeah that 2nd graph is pointless. Less EU invites then US can be simple variance but I can also certainly see it being real. Are there separate US and EU beta servers? Edit: With separate servers there isn't really a reason why they would invite less Euros but I'm willing to write it up to the limited outreach of a random amateur internet survey. The huge amount of people saying they were not invited is meaningless. You have to realize that they will have 10's of millions of signups. The vast vast majority of people is never going to get in the closed beta. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On April 15 2016 21:16 Gorsameth wrote: Yeah that 2nd graph is pointless. Less EU invites then US can be simple variance but I can also certainly see it being real. Are there seperate US and EU beta servers? Yes | ||
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Velzi
Finland659 Posts
On April 15 2016 21:16 Gorsameth wrote: Yeah that 2nd graph is pointless. Less EU invites then US can be simple variance but I can also certainly see it being real. Are there seperate US and EU beta servers? Ofc that 2nd graph means something, no one ever said there was exactly same amount of players with beta registration in EU and NA, it just says there are currently more players in EU who dont have access to beta (whether its because EU got less players in the beta or because there are a lot more players trying to get into beta from EU we dont really know). | ||
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Denmark9447 Posts
Yeah that 2nd graph is pointless. Less EU invites then US can be simple variance but I can also certainly see it being real. Ehh... No it is with a certainty of 99.999% not variance (ok i haven't done the math but its up there). Again this is 71% to 25%! | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22446 Posts
On April 15 2016 21:24 Hider wrote: Ehh... No it is with a certainty of 99.999% not variance (ok i haven't done the math but its up there). Again this is 71% to 25%! Its 349 invites vs 252 as conducted in an amateur internet survey. Sorry but your going to be very hard pressed to persuade anyone who knows anything about statistics that any real conclusions can be drawn from this. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
I don't see why it's even a big deal, they're allowed to test what they want to test how they test it, trust the dev team. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On April 15 2016 22:20 Andre wrote: There being a troll options doesn't invalidate it, it's actually a pretty common way to filter out junk responses in surveys. Except that those people that picked the troll option would have selected one of the tested options in the absence of a troll option, making the numbers skewed. For all we know, 100% NA that didn't get in picked the troll option. Again, never use a stupid internet poll as a basis for a fact. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
It's all nonsense....73.6% of all statistics are made up... “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies and statistics.” is a famous quote by Mark Twain and even that could be made up....because the source is...the internet.. People make up so called "facts", just for the sake of winning an arguement, even though they know they're 100% wrong. | ||
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Reaps
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