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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 07:02:06
July 02 2014 07:00 GMT
#1
[image loading]

So CD Projekt RED announced new game within The Witcher franchise but unlike other games which are PC cRPGs (The Wticher, The Witcher 2: Assassin of Kings and upcoming The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt), this is MOBA for mobile devices: apparently for Android, iOS and WP at the same time.

There is official teaser


Which is worthless really. A lot more telling is some random screenshot from the game:
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I dare to say it looks excellent for a mobile game.

More information come from yesterday's article in one of polish news websites - the information indicates that average game length is ~7m with ~10m being a "long" game, that battles (3v3) are fairly complicated - not like full fledged MOBAs but we are talking about game for mobile devices with touchscreen.

There is small IGN's piece about the game which just clarifies that it will be much like LoL - everything is eventually for free but your $ can speed up getting stuff:


There are 8 characters:
[image loading]

Two wizards:
Philippa Eilhart (2) & The Operator (6)

Two archers:
Eithne of Brokilon (1) & Iorveth (4)

One obvious tanks:
Golem (3)

One assassin:
Letho of Gulet (5)

And two melee fighters:
Saskia of Aedirn (7) & Zoltan Chivay (8)

At least that's how I see it.

What's your thoughts as I obviously am excited about the game and am looking forward to it. I will update post as data will appear.

Official website: http://thewitcher.com/twba
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
July 02 2014 09:16 GMT
#2
Interesting ... I'm not sure how they will make this work on a mobile phone for now...

But they have high hopes: "A friendly, supportive community"
That would be a new one!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
July 02 2014 09:27 GMT
#3
From what polish web portal said, apparently all abilities are skillshots and essentially it's possible to handle the game with mostly thumbs. Also some stuff is simplified like there is no starting cash so at the start of the game you just go and kill. The map is a lot smaller as well. I imagine it's doable, would like to be able to play beta and I wonder what are system requirements for smooth play.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 02 2014 09:39 GMT
#4
I'm trying to think about how this would work, and I think control scheme would be

first thumb - analog stick movement, skill select on side of screen
second thumb - tap to auto, swipe for skill?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 02 2014 09:40 GMT
#5
Dear god, the world really needs another MOBA. And this one for phones and tablets...
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 09:58:21
July 02 2014 09:52 GMT
#6
I thought Witcher was a game about finding girls, making quest for them to get them in your bed. I fail to see how this apply to a moba.

I just puke a little in my mouth when great franchise use the name to get their game going. If there wasn't the name of the franchise in this... no one would care. That's money maker.

Now i present you :

- Wolfenstein sims ! The dating game. You can date your favorite hero !
- War of Painkiller ! Build your base and builds heroes to conquest hell and save your fiancé !
- SimsLike Arena ! Pick your favorite sims as characters and frag like hell on this new FPS !
- Heroes of Amnesia ! Build a city and manage your cites contentment. You can play as Daniel after he escaped the shadow.

And of course, the one you wait since the dawn of Time

- Baldur's Gate Racing.

Now available on Ti82 and MO5
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
utelektr
Profile Joined November 2011
United States109 Posts
July 02 2014 09:53 GMT
#7
It sounds like the most generic garbage.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
July 02 2014 10:02 GMT
#8
On July 02 2014 18:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
I just puke a little in my mouth when great franchise use the name to get their game going. If there wasn't the name of the franchise in this... no one would care. That's money maker.

The same goes for Heroes of the Storm, to some degree Smite, Star Wars/Warhammer/Age of Conan/etc MMO and countless other examples.
You use franchise to make game visible but if the title won't hold it's own as a good game, franchise won't help.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
July 02 2014 10:07 GMT
#9
A mobile moba is certainly in its own market. I have a lot of respect for CD Projekt RED so I'll bet it ends up being pretty cool.

It seems strange that Geralt isn't listed as a playable character though.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 10:16:38
July 02 2014 10:14 GMT
#10
On July 02 2014 19:02 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 18:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
I just puke a little in my mouth when great franchise use the name to get their game going. If there wasn't the name of the franchise in this... no one would care. That's money maker.

The same goes for Heroes of the Storm, to some degree Smite, Star Wars/Warhammer/Age of Conan/etc MMO and countless other examples.
You use franchise to make game visible but if the title won't hold it's own as a good game, franchise won't help.


That's true enough.

Heroes of the storm is one of them.
Star wars... Well not so much as each one of the games stay in the same way and make sense.

Because it makes sense to have : character developement (RPG), battlefield management (RTS games), Fighting in space (Tie fighter, X-wing) and action games in the starwars universe.

MMos are a bit odd in this yes. But an RPG into Moba...

But i don't agree franchise don't help. It helps a lot to sell at first. But you are right at the same time because if the game isn't good it won't last. But franchise helped you sell it in the first place.

#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
July 02 2014 10:27 GMT
#11
Ok, I didn't see that coming. Concept seems interesting and certainly something new.

I'd be interested to see/hear more, but stuff like matchmaking, bandwidth usage, hardware requirements etc. are obviously issues to be addressed.

I have faith in CDPR though.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 10:30:36
July 02 2014 10:30 GMT
#12
On July 02 2014 18:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
I thought Witcher was a game about finding girls, making quest for them to get them in your bed. I fail to see how this apply to a moba.

I just puke a little in my mouth when great franchise use the name to get their game going. If there wasn't the name of the franchise in this... no one would care. That's money maker.

Now i present you :

- Wolfenstein sims ! The dating game. You can date your favorite hero !
- War of Painkiller ! Build your base and builds heroes to conquest hell and save your fiancé !
- SimsLike Arena ! Pick your favorite sims as characters and frag like hell on this new FPS !
- Heroes of Amnesia ! Build a city and manage your cites contentment. You can play as Daniel after he escaped the shadow.

And of course, the one you wait since the dawn of Time

- Baldur's Gate Racing.

Now available on Ti82 and MO5


lol

milk nearly came out of my nose.baldurs gate racing could have mileage
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
July 02 2014 10:52 GMT
#13
Ye Baldur's Gate Racing was funny.
sorry for dem one liners
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
July 02 2014 11:15 GMT
#14
On July 02 2014 19:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 19:02 nimdil wrote:
On July 02 2014 18:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
I just puke a little in my mouth when great franchise use the name to get their game going. If there wasn't the name of the franchise in this... no one would care. That's money maker.

The same goes for Heroes of the Storm, to some degree Smite, Star Wars/Warhammer/Age of Conan/etc MMO and countless other examples.
You use franchise to make game visible but if the title won't hold it's own as a good game, franchise won't help.


That's true enough.

Heroes of the storm is one of them.
Star wars... Well not so much as each one of the games stay in the same way and make sense.

Because it makes sense to have : character developement (RPG), battlefield management (RTS games), Fighting in space (Tie fighter, X-wing) and action games in the starwars universe.

MMos are a bit odd in this yes. But an RPG into Moba...

But i don't agree franchise don't help. It helps a lot to sell at first. But you are right at the same time because if the game isn't good it won't last. But franchise helped you sell it in the first place.


It's not "RPG into Moba". Witcher franchise started as a series of short stories ...
Polish original cover publised in 1993
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and english translation of it:
[image loading]
and later on expanded into 5 tome saga - all by original author A. Sapkowski. There is also a comic book with rather specific image quality:
[image loading], cinema movie and tv series
[image loading] - both really bad though. There was also RPG (tabletop) game:
[image loading]
Later CD Projekt RED acquired a license and started making video games but to say that Witcher started with video games is absurd. After Witcher the video game there was a card game:
[image loading]
I believe there is also feature rich board game in the making by I. Trzewiczek.
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/147116/witcher-adventure-game

It's definitely not as rich as Star Wars or LOTR or Warhammer but I think it may be easily compared to Conan.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 02 2014 11:34 GMT
#15
Oh my god I've been just schooled. Never knew about that.

Well my apologies then :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 15:31:59
July 02 2014 12:43 GMT
#16
On July 02 2014 20:34 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh my god I've been just schooled. Never knew about that.

Well my apologies then :p

No problem!

I'm actually looking forward for some characters which are dead by the time video games are happening to be introduced into the Arena, most notably
+ Show Spoiler +

Huge Witcher Saga spoilers below:
+ Show Spoiler +

Bonhart (assassin, hunting witchers; eventually killed by Ciri in weird duel)
Cahir (knight, killed by bonhart)
Regis (a vampire that was blood abstinent until the day he died by Vilgefortz)
Vilgefortz (a kick-ass wizard; easily the most powerful wizard in the books; had an answer for almost everything; by a twist of fate killed by Geralt)
Milva (although kind of redundant to the driad already listed)
Renfri (she was cursed duchess and cruel, deadly leader of a band of 7 gnomes; obviously a comical opposite to Snow White and Seven Dwarfs. She was killed by Geralt whom she challenged to a fight after sleeping with him).
Also some humanoid monsters like Bruxa would be nice.

FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 02 2014 14:10 GMT
#17
You might want to spoiler that as there are people that didn't finished it yet
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
July 02 2014 15:32 GMT
#18
On July 02 2014 23:10 FFW_Rude wrote:
You might want to spoiler that as there are people that didn't finished it yet

Wow, you're so right. Sorry :D
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 02 2014 15:48 GMT
#19
On July 02 2014 18:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
I thought Witcher was a game about finding girls, making quest for them to get them in your bed. I fail to see how this apply to a moba.

I just puke a little in my mouth when great franchise use the name to get their game going. If there wasn't the name of the franchise in this... no one would care. That's money maker.

Now i present you :

- Wolfenstein sims ! The dating game. You can date your favorite hero !
- War of Painkiller ! Build your base and builds heroes to conquest hell and save your fiancé !
- SimsLike Arena ! Pick your favorite sims as characters and frag like hell on this new FPS !
- Heroes of Amnesia ! Build a city and manage your cites contentment. You can play as Daniel after he escaped the shadow.

And of course, the one you wait since the dawn of Time

- Baldur's Gate Racing.

Now available on Ti82 and MO5

Haha thanks for that ;D

Ti82 so good though.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
July 02 2014 16:49 GMT
#20
On July 02 2014 21:43 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 20:34 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh my god I've been just schooled. Never knew about that.

Well my apologies then :p

No problem!

I'm actually looking forward for some characters which are dead by the time video games are happening to be introduced into the Arena, most notably
+ Show Spoiler +

Huge Witcher Saga spoilers below:
+ Show Spoiler +

Bonhart (assassin, hunting witchers; eventually killed by Ciri in weird duel)
Cahir (knight, killed by bonhart)
Regis (a vampire that was blood abstinent until the day he died by Vilgefortz)
Vilgefortz (a kick-ass wizard; easily the most powerful wizard in the books; had an answer for almost everything; by a twist of fate killed by Geralt)
Milva (although kind of redundant to the driad already listed)
Renfri (she was cursed duchess and cruel, deadly leader of a band of 7 gnomes; obviously a comical opposite to Snow White and Seven Dwarfs. She was killed by Geralt whom she challenged to a fight after sleeping with him).
Also some humanoid monsters like Bruxa would be nice.


+ Show Spoiler +
How could you forget Angouleme.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1970 Posts
July 02 2014 18:18 GMT
#21
The Witcher series is awesome, but this? I do not know...
Total Annihilation Zero
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11829 Posts
July 02 2014 19:06 GMT
#22
They get an interesting background and characters many people know of. The rest is up to them, same as with most franchise games.

As it is mobile I won't play it (can't), but would otherwise probably tried a round or two to check it out based on name. Personally preferred the books to the games, so not holding too great hope.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
July 02 2014 20:03 GMT
#23
God the video game industry is in such a sad state. It needs a major demand collapse so that these companies can get their shit together.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
July 02 2014 20:05 GMT
#24
On July 03 2014 01:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 21:43 nimdil wrote:
On July 02 2014 20:34 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh my god I've been just schooled. Never knew about that.

Well my apologies then :p

No problem!

I'm actually looking forward for some characters which are dead by the time video games are happening to be introduced into the Arena, most notably
+ Show Spoiler +

Huge Witcher Saga spoilers below:
+ Show Spoiler +

Bonhart (assassin, hunting witchers; eventually killed by Ciri in weird duel)
Cahir (knight, killed by bonhart)
Regis (a vampire that was blood abstinent until the day he died by Vilgefortz)
Vilgefortz (a kick-ass wizard; easily the most powerful wizard in the books; had an answer for almost everything; by a twist of fate killed by Geralt)
Milva (although kind of redundant to the driad already listed)
Renfri (she was cursed duchess and cruel, deadly leader of a band of 7 gnomes; obviously a comical opposite to Snow White and Seven Dwarfs. She was killed by Geralt whom she challenged to a fight after sleeping with him).
Also some humanoid monsters like Bruxa would be nice.


+ Show Spoiler +
How could you forget Angouleme.

I didn't like her very much

On July 03 2014 05:03 TheFish7 wrote:
God the video game industry is in such a sad state. It needs a major demand collapse so that these companies can get their shit together.

What? O_O
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
July 02 2014 20:10 GMT
#25
On July 03 2014 05:05 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 01:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On July 02 2014 21:43 nimdil wrote:
On July 02 2014 20:34 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh my god I've been just schooled. Never knew about that.

Well my apologies then :p

No problem!

I'm actually looking forward for some characters which are dead by the time video games are happening to be introduced into the Arena, most notably
+ Show Spoiler +

Huge Witcher Saga spoilers below:
+ Show Spoiler +

Bonhart (assassin, hunting witchers; eventually killed by Ciri in weird duel)
Cahir (knight, killed by bonhart)
Regis (a vampire that was blood abstinent until the day he died by Vilgefortz)
Vilgefortz (a kick-ass wizard; easily the most powerful wizard in the books; had an answer for almost everything; by a twist of fate killed by Geralt)
Milva (although kind of redundant to the driad already listed)
Renfri (she was cursed duchess and cruel, deadly leader of a band of 7 gnomes; obviously a comical opposite to Snow White and Seven Dwarfs. She was killed by Geralt whom she challenged to a fight after sleeping with him).
Also some humanoid monsters like Bruxa would be nice.


+ Show Spoiler +
How could you forget Angouleme.

I didn't like her very much

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 05:03 TheFish7 wrote:
God the video game industry is in such a sad state. It needs a major demand collapse so that these companies can get their shit together.

What? O_O


That's true. Outside of some indie games, most AAA titles in recent years are complete garbage and biggest money-making franchises are utter garbage (CoD for example).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
July 02 2014 20:15 GMT
#26
I mean companies are just designing games based on what they think people will buy rather than what actually constitutes a good game, the entire push into mobile gaming is driven by huge profits from the candy crush sagas of the world.

In other industries, for example the music industry, we've traditionally seen collapses in demand that have followed periods of high sales and profitability, caused normally by companies failures to recognize what the consumer actually wants. The video game industry is anticipating massive demand for these mobile games which in my opinion are generally very bad games. Thus there is a push into this mobile space which is driven 100% by profit motivations rather than by the artistic vision of a group of people trying to design a great game. In other industries this collapse in demand has lead to fat-trimming and re-structuring of the players in the market and then a re-invigoration normally towards re-focusing those organizations on targeting the actual want of the consumer rather than the perceived want. This collapse and rebuilding has yet to occur in the very young video game industry which continues to produce record profits year after year.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1970 Posts
July 03 2014 19:21 GMT
#27
On July 03 2014 05:15 TheFish7 wrote:
I mean companies are just designing games based on what they think people will buy rather than what actually constitutes a good game, the entire push into mobile gaming is driven by huge profits from the candy crush sagas of the world.

In other industries, for example the music industry, we've traditionally seen collapses in demand that have followed periods of high sales and profitability, caused normally by companies failures to recognize what the consumer actually wants. The video game industry is anticipating massive demand for these mobile games which in my opinion are generally very bad games. Thus there is a push into this mobile space which is driven 100% by profit motivations rather than by the artistic vision of a group of people trying to design a great game. In other industries this collapse in demand has lead to fat-trimming and re-structuring of the players in the market and then a re-invigoration normally towards re-focusing those organizations on targeting the actual want of the consumer rather than the perceived want. This collapse and rebuilding has yet to occur in the very young video game industry which continues to produce record profits year after year.


I agree on that.
Total Annihilation Zero
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
July 04 2014 06:30 GMT
#28
Professional companies are not doing game for good reviews, their doing it to earn money and coincidentally - frequently good game and profit comes hand to hand. If companies will have too much hope for some specific market, the bubble will burst, some developers and executives will loose their jobs, market will move on and new games, maybe genres, will pop up.

I'm not saying that this particular title is artistic beaty but to be fair in the moba genre only original Dota was. After that all titles - LoL, HoN, Dota2, Smite - are titles that are trying to capitilize on the genre and fact that it started as Warcraft3 map rather than full product.

I think that fast paced mobile moba would be nice, I think I will enjoy it especially as I have a LOT more sentiment for Philippa Eilhart or Zoltan Chivay than - I don't know - Furion, Teemo or Zeus.
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