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Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
February 08 2015 15:27 GMT
#41
Yeah, with the full price game up front, then all the DLC out of the gate before the release even happens, and all the pre-order hype.

I will not be getting this game.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
February 09 2015 05:59 GMT
#42
On February 08 2015 23:43 crappen wrote:
I dont get this DLC mess. So as I buy the full game, I don't get access to its full set of hunters, which can as the meta evolves, be kind of "required". I can not fulfill a certain role as a hunter if I dont have the DLC, or I cant be this certain monster that is gonna wreck/cause-trouble-to this new set of composition of hunters?
What kind of reputation does 2K have as a publisher? Why didn't they chose Valve for gods sake.

I'm just asking, I actually know too little, but I have this bad feeling this game will flop hard. I think with the right community and the way they talked it was built around modding, it could turn into something fantastic.



None of the DLC characters are available yet -- they are all still in development. No ETA for their release, either.

You have access to all non-cosmetic content that is currently finished by simply buying the base 60$ game. When the future characters are done you can make a judgement call at that time regarding if you want to purchase them or not. Or you can assume you will want them and buy them now if you want, but pre-ordering anything with no concrete information is really silly.
GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
February 09 2015 06:04 GMT
#43
I'll pay for this game if it's for PC.
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
February 09 2015 14:42 GMT
#44
You can get a 25% discount buying thru greenmangaming.com . Still I'm not a fan of an all multiplayer competitive game where you pay more for more options out of the box.

Here is a summary of the different versions they are selling:

Evolve Monster Race Edition: Exclusive to PC. This gets you EVERYTHING: the base game, Season Pass, all the pre-order content, and most importantly a fifth monster to play. On top of that, there are two extra playable hunter characters and four monster skins that will be exclusive to the Monster Race Edition until March 13th.

Evolve Digital Deluxe:
Right now the Digital Deluxe is only available for the Xbox One and PC (with the PS4 planned for later). This version is essentially everything you’d expect to get in the base game and Season Pass, with a slight price break over buying each separately (as well as any pre-order content if you pre-order the Deluxe).

Evolve Standard Edition Pre-order Bonus: The Standard Edition of the game is available for PC, PS4, and Xbox One platforms. Pre-ordering gets you two pre-order bonuses – the “Savage Goliath” skin for the Goliath Monster, and the Behemoth as a playable monster. They make a decent pre-order value when you consider the Behemoth DLC will cost an extra $14.99 once the February 10th release date arrives.

Evolve Hunting Season Pass: The Season Pass will grant the buyer four new hunters when they come out in the spring of this year. If you pre-order the Season Pass, you’ll also get three exclusive “Magma monster skins” for the Goliath, Kraken, and Wraith monsters.

Evolve's release date is tomorrow.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
February 09 2015 18:38 GMT
#45
Bought the standard edition. Will be additional hunters later if I play long enough. Game was hella fun in beta.
VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 04:58:21
February 10 2015 04:57 GMT
#46
I really can't defend what 2K has done as a publisher, they have butchered this beautiful game by Turtle Rock. I think all the DLC backlash is justifiable, and maybe even correct. But at its core its still a fantastic game, and I am really excited to play it tonight and for many months to come. ^^
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
February 10 2015 23:31 GMT
#47
Games like this make me lose hope that payorgrind2unlock will ever die the crushing, humiliating death it deserves.

Shame, because the game looks nice.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
February 10 2015 23:51 GMT
#48
This is just like Watch Dogs - you need a fucking spreadsheet to know what you'll be getting in your edition. Disgusting.
I'm gonna check around for the best price, but the words "best possible platform for DLC" is turning my blood into ice.
It deserves all the bashing from big names like Jim Sterling and Totalbiscuit and AngryJoe, because selling DLC that is not even made yet is absolutely disgusting regardless whether the base game is good.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 14:16:49
February 10 2015 23:55 GMT
#49
Direct2play looks like it has the digital deluxe version on sale with preorder content for $43.00 which they are advertising as 46% off:

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https://www.direct2play.com/steam-drm/718-evolve-steam-cdkey-global.html

At that price I'm willing to try it. The only thing that should be missing is the 5th monster, which should be $15 if there are no sales or discounts later, 2 additional hunters, and some skins. It's not 100% clear that it's the digital deluxe version, but that is the only one that is regular price $79.99, the basic game is $59.99 and monster pc is $99.99

EDIT: As far as I can tell this is just the normal version of the game, not digital deluxe. No indications that the season pass is included, so the advertised retail price they are discounting from is misleading. Still not a bad deal, and it comes with the preorder DLC, but not a 46% discount like they advertise.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
February 11 2015 06:00 GMT
#50
watched jp's stream. the game itself looks pretty cool. good movement and shooting mechanics from what little i saw.

THAT BEING SAID

the DLC practices and upfront cost make no sense to me. i have to convince a few friends to pony up the same amount of money, hope they stick with me through additional DLC, and just flake out on them if i want to solo queue as monster? so weird.

and for as many game modes as they're promising, it's kind of a shame they don't have a 4v4 game mode in case people just want to pewpewpew with friends.

so still a not buy because everything involved in playing the game outside the game itself is simply way too frustrating. full stop.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
February 12 2015 20:14 GMT
#51
Similar opinion.
Was hyped for it. Watched a ton of it at Pax Prime, was super excited along with a couple friends... read about the DLC and pricing and now not one of us plans on touching it.

Sends the wrong message to even purchase a game that comes with on-release DLC.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10155 Posts
February 13 2015 08:35 GMT
#52
From what you are saying it looks like a F2P model, but withouth the free part.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
February 13 2015 09:01 GMT
#53
You guys are so entitled, Jesus fuck!

How can you possibly expect to spend 80 quid and get a full game?
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 09:07:13
February 13 2015 09:05 GMT
#54
Yet another game that will vanish because of bad pricing models.... oh gaming industry when will you start to learn and think ahead.

Guys ... just play Nosgoth!

On February 13 2015 17:35 Godwrath wrote:
From what you are saying it looks like a F2P model, but withouth the free part.

Or how it was called in my days: demo.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
February 13 2015 16:33 GMT
#55
They made some terrible marketing moves with the different DLC versions at retail, but it is a good game. They should have just sold one version at lauch and sold all the extra DLC a few months from now and the complaints would have been minimal even if the effect was the same. Right now none of the versions above the basic actually gives you anything anyway, just promises to give it to you when it's ready for release. I don't blame anyone for boycotting the game for selling up to $40 worth of promised DLC at launch, but when it eventually goes on sale at a huge discount with all the DLC included on steam at some point in a game of the year edition or whatever, it is worth checking out.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 13 2015 17:24 GMT
#56
Feels like its went the route of Titanfall.

Its going to die like Titanfall. Hopefully.

Have to show companies that we aren't going to take this shit anymore.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10155 Posts
February 13 2015 17:38 GMT
#57
On February 14 2015 01:33 karazax wrote:
They made some terrible marketing moves with the different DLC versions at retail, but it is a good game. They should have just sold one version at lauch and sold all the extra DLC a few months from now and the complaints would have been minimal even if the effect was the same. Right now none of the versions above the basic actually gives you anything anyway, just promises to give it to you when it's ready for release. I don't blame anyone for boycotting the game for selling up to $40 worth of promised DLC at launch, but when it eventually goes on sale at a huge discount with all the DLC included on steam at some point in a game of the year edition or whatever, it is worth checking out.

The problem is, how many people will be playing this when it finally goes on sale ?
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 13 2015 17:54 GMT
#58
Me I was looking forward to Evolve and playing with a couple of friends. But the DLC crap is such a no go >.< . I am glad they put it out before release, that they will cut the game to bits and sell each bit at full price and not do it sneakily. It is not that bad :p . But yeah no pre orders, no day1 DLC games for me. Hope they do an Ubisoft and the complete game will be sold as a game of the year edition in 12 month.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
February 13 2015 18:01 GMT
#59
On February 13 2015 18:05 bluQ wrote:
Or how it was called in my days: demo.

Do they even exist anymore these days? Well, gaming has certainly gone downhill since then (in my opinion).
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
February 13 2015 18:09 GMT
#60
my opinion:

I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can purchase this game with the current games market.. On steam, you can get amazingly polished DLC free indie gems for like 5 dollars with hundreds of hours of gameplay, or you can pay $60 (or however much euro/sea/asian regions have to pay, generally 20 USD equiv more than domestic usa markets..) for a DLC selling platform for a lackluster game. I see people comparing Evolve to Titanfall a lot, except I don't remember Titanfall having a lot (if any) of DLC, it was just super content light.. But the fact of the matter is that Titanfall's mechanics were well done, the game was smart with its combination of quake-like movement, COD aiming, and mech utilization (not to mention its attempt to integrate moba mechanics to make the game different from from traditional TDM/domination shooters..). To this day I still think Titanfall has awesome ideas, and I think that Titanfall 2 will far eclipse COD/battlefield when it eventually comes out (given that it's a more fully packed game).

Evolve, however, isn't anything new, at all... They can try to spin it as a new asymmetric shooter, but when I played the beta it felt like a combination of a generic ass FPS with mediocre shooting mechanics with a warcraft 3 custom game style monster progression system.. That might sound strange, but this game is something I would expect from WC3's UMS scene (without the FPS element, just the tracking and leveling up etc). Now the thing is, on WC3 one this game would have been free, two it would have a lot more crazy ass mechanics that the devs either didn't include or are holding out on for DLC.. Nothing in Evolve makes me go "wow that was badass I would have never thought that would be in this kinda game," it's all generic safe skills that are aimed at not frustrating newer players (which there won't be any, because this game will be dead within the week). WC3 UMS could have done this game better 100%, not even factoring 80USD for the dlc platform and 150USD more for the whole package on day one.

If you want to play this game, just go buy warcraft three and play UMS, you'll get 100000% more out of WC3 in terms of variety, and hell you can probably even find evolve there too.

The DLC though... LOL... I can't believe people are even defending the devs.. what did they say? "We need to feed our families so we're going to accentuate revenue streams by creating additional avenues of funding?" I'm paraphrasing from reddit, but the fact that they're playing to the emotions of their consumers instead of you know, making a good game, should tell you to steer clear. If it was a good game, they wouldn't need to make excuses and qualify their BS dlc practices, they would have made the game 30USD and sold more copies on the merit of the game's awesome experience (ie natural selection 2 for 20USD, a much better game as well).

Who is reinforcing these practices? Like who in their right mind is like "yeah, i'll drop 80USD equiv on a shitty game that i'll play for 3 hours instead of an awesome indie on steam." The value per USD return is so out of wack, although if it works I will be very impressed by their marketing team.

Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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