On September 29 2006 08:11 crystalis-x wrote:
Kramnik's manager is now accussing Topalov for creating a not suitable chess playing atmosphere as his team includes bringing a psychic to the tournament.

Oh my....

....
A psychic?

It's not like they are playing poker, what would you need a psychic for

sUng

Germany46 Posts

September 28 2006 23:35 GMT

#163

this is going to be better than anything fischer ever did :D

but yeah seriously why doesn't kramnik just use the bathroom they gave to him?

BlackJack

United States10574 Posts

September 29 2006 00:35 GMT

#164

On September 29 2006 08:35 sUng wrote:
this is going to be better than anything fischer ever did :D

but yeah seriously why doesn't kramnik just use the bathroom they gave to him?

I dunno man, Fischer forfeited game 2 vs Spassky '72. He also forfeited his title to Karpov. Not to mention all the controversial anti-semetic, anti-US comments he has made and the incredible chess he has played.

lightman

United States731 Posts

September 29 2006 01:52 GMT

#165

These two guys are acting like 5 year olds:

15:30h: Topalov is sitting at the board, Kramnik's clock is running. The "game" was started at 15:22h Elista time.

15:45h: Kramnik is in his rest room, and is waiting for his toilet to open.

-------------------------------

I would have peed over the board, screw them.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

September 29 2006 02:14 GMT

#166

On September 29 2006 10:52 lightman wrote:
These two guys are acting like 5 year olds:

15:30h: Topalov is sitting at the board, Kramnik's clock is running. The "game" was started at 15:22h Elista time.

15:45h: Kramnik is in his rest room, and is waiting for his toilet to open.

-------------------------------

I would have peed over the board, screw them.

Yeah, instead of acting like a 5 year old they should act like 3 year olds, I see your point

But yeah, what the hell are they arguing about.. Do they think he's shooting up in there? Having someone phone in / leave notes with analyzis by some chess computer :[?!

BlackJack

United States10574 Posts

September 29 2006 02:43 GMT

#167

EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS OF KRAMNIKS TOILET@!@!@!@!@@

hahaha

Sr18

Netherlands1141 Posts

September 29 2006 05:05 GMT

#168

On September 29 2006 11:14 FrozenArbiter wrote:
[removed quote within quote]
Yeah, instead of acting like a 5 year old they should act like 3 year olds, I see your point

But yeah, what the hell are they arguing about.. Do they think he's shooting up in there? Having someone phone in / leave notes with analyzis by some chess computer :[?!

They obviously think Kramnik is using computer assistance there.

ssj100

Afghanistan320 Posts

September 29 2006 05:29 GMT

#169

5 year olds or not, Topalov has closed the gap to 3-2. Would be funny if he wins this match 10-2.

aseq

Netherlands3994 Posts

September 29 2006 07:36 GMT

#170

haha i loaded up the game on chessgames and i was like, why doesn't it work, it only says 0-1. Retried a few times, then read the thread.

goldrush

Canada709 Posts

September 29 2006 08:08 GMT

#171

Didn't the two players agree to separate bathrooms? Didn't the two players look at both, inspect them and the security around it and decide it was acceptable? Come on... This is Topalov just being a poor sport and being down in the match.

Agone

American Samoa231 Posts

September 29 2006 08:19 GMT

#172

Poor sport? look at the time passed by Kramnik in these toilet during the game... And "inspected them" is of no use when people with cell phone were around and none can see what was going on inside.

goldrush

Canada709 Posts

September 29 2006 08:27 GMT

#173

The toilets, I believe, are inspected prior to every match. So there isn't much chance of a phone being hidden there. Kramnik most likely doesn't have his phone with him, as it going off is enough to forfeit the game (even set on vibrate, it would cause more trouble than its worth). any changes to the environs of the facility had to be approved by both parties, so it's not really a question that the Appeals commitee acted erroneously there. As for spending time in the bathroom; it's the only place where Kramnik can have some peace! Why not try and make the important decisions in private instead of in front of everyone?

Remember, innocent until proven guilty. And unless Topalov has some *proof* (tapes of tapping or whatever you think is going on), not just 'he spends too much time on the pot', why should Kramnik be considered guilty?

IIICodeIIIIIII

China1101 Posts

September 29 2006 08:50 GMT

#174

On September 29 2006 11:43 BlackJack wrote:
EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS OF KRAMNIKS TOILET@!@!@!@!@@

hahaha

OMG!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! AHAHAHAHA. omg that's funny ;_;

IIICodeIIIIIII

China1101 Posts

September 29 2006 08:54 GMT

#175

why not a plastic phone set to vibrate on a nerve, implanted up his ass? then people can morse code him moves while he's playing. no need for the toilet there.

topalov - adopted at age 12 to play only chess all day every day.

Kramnik - toilet fetish.

2 top chess players i the world ladies and gentlemen ^_^. i love eccentric people. that's why i like people who like anime and chinese people and uhh... MMRPG players, though they sometimes get so boring.

karelen

Sweden2407 Posts

September 29 2006 09:03 GMT

#176

this is too silly.. still i can understand why kramnik is upset, basically topalov and his team is questioning his integrity. further on if he was just to give in for topalovs demands it would in fact mean a psychological victory that shouldnt be underestimated.

back in fischers day this was one of his favourite way of trying to wear down his oponent. making outrageous demands and when the oponent gave in they lost horribly as a consequence. coinsidence? hardly. spassky for example openly admitted afterwards that if he had stood his ground he would probably had won, but he was very gentlemanlike and wanted more than anything to secure the future of the match when fischer started to threaten to abandon the match.

karelen

Sweden2407 Posts

September 29 2006 09:07 GMT

#177

for example one of fischers demands during the world championship match with spassky was that when he went from his hotel to the playing venue there should only be green lights at every intersection.. also he was disapointed with the lights over the board and demanded that special lightbulbs would be flown in from the states.

this seems pretty petty compared to the problems they had to deal with back then..

BlackJack

United States10574 Posts

September 29 2006 09:13 GMT

#178

On September 29 2006 17:27 goldrush wrote:
Kramnik most likely doesn't have his phone with him, as it going off is enough to forfeit the game (even set on vibrate, it would cause more trouble than its worth).

They go through metal dectectors as they enter the building.

goldrush

Canada709 Posts

September 29 2006 09:44 GMT

#179

Okay, now it's even more unlikely that he's cheating.

PaleMan

Russian Federation1953 Posts

September 30 2006 23:03 GMT

#180

Topalov is loser

he can't win at the chessboard....