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goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
October 07 2006 22:53 GMT
#261
1-0, Kramnik has officially won and tied the amtch up.
larrysbird
Profile Joined May 2006
375 Posts
October 08 2006 02:05 GMT
#262
On October 08 2006 07:53 goldrush wrote:
1-0, Kramnik has officially won and tied the amtch up.


u mean is leading?

Is there a cure among us from this processed sanity - c soul
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 08 2006 03:01 GMT
#263
Good to see Mr. Kramnik winning again.
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
October 08 2006 03:03 GMT
#264
No, since the toilet forfeit still 'officially' counts as a game lost for Kramnik, Topalov has 3 wins to Kramnik's 3 wins.
MOBAJOBG
Profile Joined July 2006
Malaysia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-08 14:32:43
October 08 2006 10:31 GMT
#265
Oh dear! The score is deadlocked at 5-5 with 2 games left to play for all the "marbles". Kramnik came back to snatch a well-earned confidence boosting Game 10 victory from two morale sapping defeats in succession. Just simply awesome!
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 09 2006 18:37 GMT
#266
Game 11 starts in 30 mins!
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 09 2006 19:53 GMT
#267
Topalov making his first 10 moves or so in less than 2 minutes
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 09 2006 19:54 GMT
#268
So far (14. move) Topalov play very aggressive and super quick, while Kramnik is taking his time.
My engines gives a little advantage on Toplalov's side, but minor one. More important is that Topa already have won such Slav defence games. Let's see what happens ...
If anyone in next two hours wants to play me on playchess.com with time control between 1+2 till 5+2 - PM or let me know here.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 09 2006 19:55 GMT
#269
Position after Black's 14th move looks blown wide apart. I have a feeling there is going to be a result in this game. Also Topalov's fast opening play gives the feel of some sleepless home preparation.
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-09 20:28:17
October 09 2006 20:24 GMT
#270
In the position after white's 17th move, is white really threatening to play b5 and pry open the black camp? Taking the b5 pawn would be bad for black imo because of the two weak pawns on b7 and d5.

Kramnik defends against this 'threat' by playing 17... Qd7. Now, if 18. b5 Nxc5! is a killer shot as 19. dxc5 Bxc5+ 20. Kg2 Qh3+ is hopeless. Therefore, something like 19. f5 must be played but after 19... Ne4, black looks great.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 09 2006 20:32 GMT
#271
Kramnik may be preparing an attack on the h file
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 09 2006 20:54 GMT
#272
After some exchanges the question is: Can Topalov capitalize on 2 Bishops in endspiel?
I hope he can.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 09 2006 23:16 GMT
#273
And the answer is: Sadly, no.
Topa played crappy, thats the truth.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
October 10 2006 00:26 GMT
#274
this probably an extremely newbie question but how do they decide when these things end? seems to me like it just kinda ends randomly.. neither players time was up and it wasnt checkmate.
aka StormtoSS
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-10 00:54:58
October 10 2006 00:51 GMT
#275
Draws can occur in 3 ways:

1. Stalemate: one player has no legal moves. Example: it is your turn to move, but you have no pieces left and your king is surrounded and cannot move, but it is not in check so there is no checkmate.

2. 3 repetitions of the same position.

3. The players agree to a draw, which is what happened in this case. Probably because neither of them can see any attack vectors and experience also supports the belief that the game is drawn.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
October 10 2006 01:09 GMT
#276
50 moves without a capture or pawn move too.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 10 2006 02:36 GMT
#277
Open Letter

To
FIDE President
H.E. Kirsan Illyumzhinov

To
Head of the 2006 Executive Committee
Mr. Valery Bovaev

Dear Mr President, Gentlemen,

Having received innumerable published and unpublished inquiries I would like to clarify, in the name of Vladimir Kramnik and his team, our position in the decision taken by FIDE regarding the fifth game of the current World Championship match.

1.

As you know Vladimir Kramnik is playing the current match under protest. Nothing has changed in our attitude, which is documented by Kramnik’s actions around the fifth game and our statements, protests and letters:
29.09.2006: http://www.kramnik.com/eng/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=104
02.10.2006: http://www.kramnik.com/eng/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=106
04.10.2006: http://www.kramnik.com/eng/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=107
2.

Consistent with this standpoint Vladimir Kramnik will be playing this match, including a possible tiebreak, up to the last move under protest.
3.

Should the decision of FIDE regarding the fifth game have any influence on the awarding of the World Championship title, with Mr Topalov receiving the title after being granted a free point for the unplayed game, Mr Kramnik declares unequivocally: “I will not recognize Mr Topalov as World Champion under these conditions, and I will take legal action against FIDE at the end of the World Championship.”
4.

The damage done to Mr Kramnik in public opinion (e.g. the slander campaign) after the illegal release of private video images by the then FIDE Appeals Committee or the WCC 2006 Executive Committee to the Topalov team, and the subsequent release of these video images and private information of Mr Kramnik in his restroom to the mass media, as well as the interruption of the match, which broke Mr Kramnik’s concentration and playing rhythm, will all be part of the legal action which will be initiated.
5.

As a sign of good will Mr Kramnik once again requests FIDE to arrange for game five to be played out on the board immediately after game 12. This in our opinion is the only way to alleviate the personal, sporting, judicial and ethical injuries that have been incurred by Mr Kramnik.


Elista, October 10, 2006
On behalf of Vladimir Kramnik
Yours sincerely
Carsten Hensel
(Manager to Vladimir Kramnik, Classical World Chess Champion)
What do you guys think...
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 10 2006 03:46 GMT
#278
Seriously, Mr. Kramnik lost game 5 by not turning up. He said himself he is a professional, and a professional would have turned up and played even in that situation. I am not saying I like it though, for I truly support Mr. Kramnik in this.

(By the way, does anyone else find it funny calling players with the title 'Mr.' Go Mr. Kramnik!)

Anyway, Game 11 ends in a draw. Mr. Kramnik with the white pieces in the final game.
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
October 10 2006 05:05 GMT
#279
Let's not forget not enough material to mate or a completely blocked position.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 10 2006 09:34 GMT
#280
Personally, im against game 5 being played after game 12 for these reasons;
1) Kramnik had the choice to turn up but did not, thus, his fault
2) A true professional, deserving of the title WOULD have turned up
3) If game 5 was so important to Kramnik he should have brought this up AT the time, or near to it not JUST before the final game

i hope topalov wins.. much more exciting player
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
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