EPT[chess] Topalov vs Kramnik - Page 12
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BlackJack
United States10479 Posts
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
I think Top's just crying because he lost 2-0. | ||
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goldrush
Canada709 Posts
World Chess Championship Elista (8), 05.10.2006 [Robot 1] 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Be2 Bb7 9.0-0 b4 10.Na4 c5 11.dxc5 Nxc5 12.Bb5+ Ncd7 13.Ne5 Qc7 14.Qd4 Rd8 15.Bd2 Qa5 16.Bc6 Be7 17. Rfc1 Topalov looks fine in this position, though it is an uncompromising and combative line. I'm a bit surprised that Kramnik allowed Topalov to play it. One of the most interesting games yet is in the making. | ||
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MarcX
Netherlands772 Posts
Interesting situation. (29 Rc1) | ||
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BlackJack
United States10479 Posts
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MarcX
Netherlands772 Posts
I think 31 ... g6 | ||
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MarcX
Netherlands772 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
This should be interesting to watch  . Fortunately they move so slowly that I can just check up on them every 5 minutes while working  .Edit: seems like Topalov has been moving (much) faster than Kramnik in the first 40 minutes of every game...? | ||
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MarcX
Netherlands772 Posts
this drooks a bit like a law to me, but I have such limited understand that 99% of the implications of the situation probably escapes my notice. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Good move, otherwise Topalov could have done this (if that pawn wasn't there and Kramnik made some other move): 37. ... Nd6 38. Rbc7 Rb8 39. Rc3 Ne4 40. Rd3 Nec5 and Topalov wins the pawn on b3 (I think?). But now Ne4 doesn't work. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Hmm... how can Topalov win this? One line of attack might be: 39. ... Ne4 40. __ Kf6 41. __ Nc5 Threatening both the b rook and pawn. Not sure where he can go from there. ... looks like Topalov made his move: 39. ... Kd6 Now he can play Nc5 on the next move. Kramnik might check with Rd1, and I'm not sure what kind of attack Topalov can put together from there =/. Oh interesting, Topalov has left his g pawn for dead! Though Kramnik must protect e3 with a rook before his king can take g3... 40. Kf3 Nd5 Okay, I should stop analysing these positions and focus on my work =P. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
41. Re1 Nc5 42. Rb5 Nb3 43. Rb6+ Kc7 And Kramnik loses a rook. Alternatively, he can move his rook elsewhere for move 42 at the expense of his b pawn (and likely his a pawn as well). Edit: 41. Kxg3 Nc5 Kramnik opts to exchange pawns. I couldn't see any obvious retaliatory threats from Topalov taking the e3 pawn, but it looks like he is pressing his attack on the b rook and pawn (similar to what I stepped through above). After all, he can take the e3 pawn whenever he wants, but doing so will waste 1 or 2 turns. | ||
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lightman
United States731 Posts
42 Rg7 Rb8 | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On October 05 2006 08:15 lightman wrote: lol bill your analysis sucks ! 42 Rg7 Rb8 What is that, some kind of retarded flame? FYI, I enjoy reading others' analyses because it saves me from having to discover things on my own (assuming I would even see them at all). I imagine other people will feel the same way about mine. I don't see you contributing anything right now. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
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Sr18
Netherlands1141 Posts
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Aciduzzu
Germany22 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Looks like rook + 2 knights beat 2 rooks + extra pawn . | ||
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lightman
United States731 Posts
Hey Bill I was just kidding man ... can you take a joke ? | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On October 05 2006 08:42 lightman wrote: 4:4 ....... now that forfeit win will really mean the difference. Hey Bill I was just kidding man ... can you take a joke ? Oh, my mistake. Replace "retarded flame" with "retarded joke" then. (jokes are supposed to be funny, but I don't see who would laugh at what you wrote...) | ||
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