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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
March 11 2014 04:42 GMT
#421
Am I stuck with my Origin name? It's my RL name.. not happy about that, Steam doesn't force you with that.
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
March 11 2014 04:54 GMT
#422
I think if you go to edit profile you can change your origin display name as much as you want? At least that's what one of my friends told me
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
March 11 2014 05:49 GMT
#423
On March 11 2014 13:54 imJealous wrote:
I think if you go to edit profile you can change your origin display name as much as you want? At least that's what one of my friends told me


Confirmed. Go to your profile page and click "Edit my Profile." Hit "Edit" just above your handle. You may have to answer your security questions, but it should allow you to change your name once your done.

Read that at least one individual is having trouble just launching the game. This is precisely why I didn't preorder it, and why I asked Respawn if the game would be optimized for consoles over PC rather than all platforms. :-\
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 11 2014 05:54 GMT
#424
This game looks so bad. Ive been watching a live stream game play for about 2.5 hours (plus beta footage) and I am surprised many here like this. It takes no skill to kill someone, and combine that with cloaking makes killing people (or getting killed) an even bigger joke. Its simply too damn easy to get killed, its almost instantaneous. CoD with parkour. No skill, no recoil, postage stamp sized maps, ai bots, no campaign, EA made... no thanks.
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 11 2014 08:34 GMT
#425
On March 11 2014 14:54 DyEnasTy wrote:
This game looks so bad. Ive been watching a live stream game play for about 2.5 hours (plus beta footage) and I am surprised many here like this. It takes no skill to kill someone, and combine that with cloaking makes killing people (or getting killed) an even bigger joke. Its simply too damn easy to get killed, its almost instantaneous. CoD with parkour. No skill, no recoil, postage stamp sized maps, ai bots, no campaign, EA made... no thanks.


Just a quick question, have you played the game? Just seems like your "complaints" are not really based on anything beyond that of hating on something you personally do not enjoy. Is the game perfect? Absolutely not; it has many flaws and there are many aspects that should be worked on. But at the end of the day, this game is straightforward as to what it delivers.

The game is fast paced which means there will be plenty of deaths. But there is an element of teamwork and excitement to the game. When you play with friends (which I think is the best way to play the game), it adds a new level to the gameplay. I too was worried about the AI until I played early on in the games development. They are essentially creeps from DotA. One nice thing about them is that it makes the match feel like something is always going on, not a ton of downtime.

There is a campaign but it is online. Which in all honesty, I think is just fine. One thing I hate about games nowaday is that they seem to force different modes just because it is the norm. If the game is focused on multiplayer, than that is just fine. No need to dish out a lackluster "campaign" just to appease some people. Rather have a game focus on what is important.

As for the rest that you said, it being EA (as one of the reasons mentioned) just cries bias and is unnecessary. If this sort of game is not your type, fine. But as a gamer, should try to be more objective as to why people play or at least try to understand the game.
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ManniBender
Profile Joined February 2014
81 Posts
March 11 2014 08:55 GMT
#426
I feel exactly the same. The movement is nice, but the rest of the game is complete bullshit. How can people find this fun? Its way to easy and simple. If I compare the Game to BF I can only laugh about it. But Console-Casuals don't know it better I guess.

User was temp banned for this post.
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
March 11 2014 09:08 GMT
#427
On March 11 2014 17:55 ManniBender wrote:
I feel exactly the same. The movement is nice, but the rest of the game is complete bullshit. How can people find this fun? Its way to easy and simple. If I compare the Game to BF I can only laugh about it. But Console-Casuals don't know it better I guess.

How can you find BF4/CoD fun?
People have different taste, get over it and your console-casuals comment was retarded for so many reasons.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 09:31:06
March 11 2014 09:29 GMT
#428
On March 11 2014 17:55 ManniBender wrote:
I feel exactly the same. The movement is nice, but the rest of the game is complete bullshit. How can people find this fun? Its way to easy and simple. If I compare the Game to BF I can only laugh about it. But Console-Casuals don't know it better I guess.

Well you are probably slightly different from the other millions of ppl.
On March 11 2014 14:54 DyEnasTy wrote:
This game looks so bad. Ive been watching a live stream game play for about 2.5 hours (plus beta footage) and I am surprised many here like this. It takes no skill to kill someone, and combine that with cloaking makes killing people (or getting killed) an even bigger joke. Its simply too damn easy to get killed, its almost instantaneous. CoD with parkour. No skill, no recoil, postage stamp sized maps, ai bots, no campaign, EA made... no thanks.

Oh another video stream reviewer, cool. I thought TL should be better than metacritic.
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 11 2014 09:39 GMT
#429
On March 11 2014 18:29 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 17:55 ManniBender wrote:
I feel exactly the same. The movement is nice, but the rest of the game is complete bullshit. How can people find this fun? Its way to easy and simple. If I compare the Game to BF I can only laugh about it. But Console-Casuals don't know it better I guess.

Well you are probably slightly different from the other millions of ppl.
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 14:54 DyEnasTy wrote:
This game looks so bad. Ive been watching a live stream game play for about 2.5 hours (plus beta footage) and I am surprised many here like this. It takes no skill to kill someone, and combine that with cloaking makes killing people (or getting killed) an even bigger joke. Its simply too damn easy to get killed, its almost instantaneous. CoD with parkour. No skill, no recoil, postage stamp sized maps, ai bots, no campaign, EA made... no thanks.

Oh another video stream reviewer, cool. I thought TL should be better than metacritic.


Have to agree here--I was under the impression that people on TL had the ability to discuss something without resorting to well... the bit you quoted. I do believe ManniBender was absolutely spot on as to illustrate a problem with certain people (most likely not even aware as to what was mentioned). "How can people find this fun?"

This question, similar to that of "I can't believe people like this game" are essentially the same. By virtue of asking such questions, they are opening admitting to the fact that they do not understand, period. Whether or not someone likes the game is another topic. But when one lacks the understanding of why people enjoy it, that is the issue.

Like I mentioned before, I have issues with the game. I still think it should not have cost $59.99 but that is a personal matter (disregarding the forumulae of cost versus benefits and potential revenue). I still dislike the Chuck Norrus-kick (instant kill), but I also see a lot of good with the game. Each game has its pros and cons and I think if someone thinks of themselves as a gamer, they ought to be willing to drop potential bias and think more in depth (although that is most likely asking way too much of people).
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ManniBender
Profile Joined February 2014
81 Posts
March 11 2014 10:39 GMT
#430
On March 11 2014 18:08 Ighox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 17:55 ManniBender wrote:
I feel exactly the same. The movement is nice, but the rest of the game is complete bullshit. How can people find this fun? Its way to easy and simple. If I compare the Game to BF I can only laugh about it. But Console-Casuals don't know it better I guess.

How can you find BF4/CoD fun?
People have different taste, get over it and your console-casuals comment was retarded for so many reasons.


I have not played a Call of Duty since Call of Duty 4! I would not even play it for free...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 11 2014 10:41 GMT
#431
On March 11 2014 18:29 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 17:55 ManniBender wrote:
I feel exactly the same. The movement is nice, but the rest of the game is complete bullshit. How can people find this fun? Its way to easy and simple. If I compare the Game to BF I can only laugh about it. But Console-Casuals don't know it better I guess.

Well you are probably slightly different from the other millions of ppl.
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 14:54 DyEnasTy wrote:
This game looks so bad. Ive been watching a live stream game play for about 2.5 hours (plus beta footage) and I am surprised many here like this. It takes no skill to kill someone, and combine that with cloaking makes killing people (or getting killed) an even bigger joke. Its simply too damn easy to get killed, its almost instantaneous. CoD with parkour. No skill, no recoil, postage stamp sized maps, ai bots, no campaign, EA made... no thanks.

Oh another video stream reviewer, cool. I thought TL should be better than metacritic.

I wish people reviewed other stuff like that. Like if people reviewed sports from watching them on TV:

"Just watched to hours of golf and why do people play this shit. It takes no skill and they can just slam the ball in any direction and they will get to the hole in some time. There is no team work and the bats they use look stupid. Also, it's a game for casuals, because you don't even have to carry your clubs and can get a cart to carry you. So dumb and I don't get what all the hype is about."
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Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
March 11 2014 11:17 GMT
#432
It's hilarious how every single thing you do is an achievement. Like you kill a bot and the screen blows up with shit like, "CHALLENGE COMPLETE!!111". Then the next time you kill a bot you kill him with a headshot instead and the screen blows up again, "CHALLENGE COMPLETE!!111". Just because what you did actually wasn't cool or skilled at all but you paid $60 for the game so they want to make even the most dumpster of the dumpsters feel good about it. They also make you feel like you can always contribute in something like attrition where you can just run around and kill bots and get attrition points for your team. I guess this isn't necessarily a bad thing but it is quite funny. Let's not even begin on the aiming system and weapon recoil, and how you don't even fucking have HEALTH (Counter-Strike anyone?).

I enjoy playing the game but it is probably the LEAST competitive thing I have ever experienced, and honestly I'm already getting bored as fuck. I will probably be putting it down within a week to go back to more competitive games in which dedication to improvement and extreme levels of teamwork are more readily awarded. And not with a large message in capitals in the middle of my screen, mind you.

Don't get me wrong, I knew to expect a casual experience but this is an entirely different level. Winning or losing doesn't even feel like winning or losing. It doesn't fucking matter what happens. You play your ten minute match and then just queue again.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12476 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 11:46:19
March 11 2014 11:45 GMT
#433
This game is so addictive :X
I hope they will find a way to extend the match length and then reduce the HUD size for pilot mode.

I am getting so good at titan fights, even win 1v2 sometimes :D

"you are out numbered two to one"
Oh yea? More points for me then :D
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FadedCrab
Profile Joined January 2014
12 Posts
March 11 2014 11:46 GMT
#434
My biggest problem with Titanfall is that the Time To Kill is completely ridiculous and it turned out to be a deal breaker for me, coming from arena/twitch shooters. And you can't blame it on that it's 'fast paced'. You can have a fast paced game (Q, UT) without people getting killed in half a second. But to my understanding Battlefield and Call of Duty is the same so I guess people like it.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
March 11 2014 12:00 GMT
#435
On March 11 2014 03:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 03:06 ManniBender wrote:
This Game is just bad. I played 3 Games in the Beta and the Game is just bad. The Maps are too small, the 6v6 is a joke and the Gunplay is Console Spray'N'Pray with no Recoil at all. Not to mention the ridiculous Auto-Aim Pistol.

And the fucking stupid Retardo-AI is the worst I have ever seen in any Game. The AI is clearly only there to give the worst of the worst Console-Casuals a chance to get some Pts to get into their Titan.

I have not played a Call of Duty since CoD4, so I guess its how Call of Duty is nowadays and that it what the Call of Duty Kiddies want.

And well the Graphics are terrible too, even Maxed out. At least it runs wiht 100fps on nearly every PC, but it also looks like that.

Titanfall feels 100% like a Console-Game. No Dedicated Servers, no Serverbrowser, no Chat - just a "PLAY" Button...

BF4 is the only Shooter I play atm and well it feels superior in every way. More weapons, more maps, bigger, better and the weapons feel way better and more different.


The AI is there because they want to make the fights not appear small. See, if you took a game like this and made it 16v16 or 32v32, all you'd have is a bunch of mechs fighting eachother by the halfway point, just like Hawken and other some such games (which is fine, but the problem then would be that Hawken already exists, making this game irrelevant). Because obviously even if playing infantry is reasonable and not too hard against mechs, almost everyone would still get their mechs as soon and as often as possible.

So they added in the AI to try to make it more enjoyable for both types of players, infantrymen will have more enemies to shoot at and will feel that they're part of a bigger war, and mechs will never outnumber infantry, as they otherwise would. Also I'm fairly sure the AI is there to act as a DotA-esque mechanic for the attrition gamemode where you gain victory points by slaughtering them. So it's not a game all about shooting the other guy in the face.

Can't comment on anything else.


even then its just a design choice many dont agree with. including me. was really interested when it got announced. and as i learned more and more about the game my interest disappeared.
i expected a new take on a bf2142 meets CoD or whatever. not smallscale stuff with bots running around.

and i think many thought titanfall would be more then just another "go play that deathmatch for 1-6 month then throw away" console shooter.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 12:35:03
March 11 2014 12:34 GMT
#436
On March 11 2014 18:08 Ighox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 17:55 ManniBender wrote:
I feel exactly the same. The movement is nice, but the rest of the game is complete bullshit. How can people find this fun? Its way to easy and simple. If I compare the Game to BF I can only laugh about it. But Console-Casuals don't know it better I guess.

How can you find BF4/CoD fun?
People have different taste, get over it and your console-casuals comment was retarded for so many reasons.


Yeah honestly I didn't want to rip into ManniBender at first, especially since I've been ripping into other posters recently for much the same reason (although not regarding Titanfall) so here's a simple question: why do you keep perusing and posting in this thread if you don't like this game? Do you have nothing better to do than try to piss off people who like a different game? Do you want to cause a BF vs CoD flamewar? Do you want to bait me into telling you that Battlefield is a piece of shit game compared to Quake, Unreal Tournament, QWTF/TFC and Painkiller? That in my eyes you're every bit as much of a console-casual / modern shooter casual as you make others out to be? Is that what you want to happen?

I'd rather you just went on your way and let other people enjoy other games, instead of coming here and trying to start shit. It's ok to voice an opinion, hell I'd say the more viewpoints we have in this thread the better it will be for consumers when it comes to making an informed decision in terms of buying or not buying this game, but when all you're doing is berating a game over and over while rehashing your previous posts and contributing nothing new, and also berating the people who like it (especially when you consider superior a game that's not much different in most respects) then there's a problem...

Take a chill pill ManniBender, go out, have some fresh air, close the door, don't come back in.

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VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
March 11 2014 12:46 GMT
#437
The game is pretty fun. I've played 4 hours now, I didn't play any beta. I wish the bots mattered in modes that aren't attrition. If they aren't going to add anything why have them at all. The insta-flying-ninja-kick is a joke. The fact that it locks on is a joke, obviously meant to please console players. You can't chose what map you want to play on, but map doesn't feel like it matters a lot to the core gameplay like it does in something like Counterstrike. There were only a few times I wandered around literally unable to find another enemy player to kill. 6v6 sounds bad but you usually find people pretty quickly. Constant action is bad, gets stale really quickly. Even 10-15 seconds of running and jumping around, getting to a better position, helps keep it varied. Still, I think it could easily be increased to 8v8 with these maps.

Titans control exactly the same as infantry except you dash instead of jump. I like it but if you want to experience a Mech simulator I'd suggest Mechwarrior Online. It definitely helps break up the pace of the game, feels like there's an early>mid>end game. I think maps/games end a little too quickly, especially for the few I tried on attrition. CTF/CTP felt like the longest, but I'm guessing average is 10-15 mins? Maybe I'm too used to CS, but when you bounce back to lobby and have to wait 90 (ninety) seconds to get into the next game, it feels off.

Is it worth $60? Probably not, but I paid much less than that for it, and I'm enjoying it for what it is. Solid fast paced shooter with some interesting mechanics. (Titans and Parkour basically) 7/10
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 15:11:59
March 11 2014 15:03 GMT
#438
It's COD4 with parkour and Armored Core. I enjoy the fast gameplay, and for people who say you die too fast - well unless it's a shotgun, time to kill feels about the same as Battlefield 4 to me. So either I'm killing too slow (not likely) or BF4 was pretty quick too.

Also - I feel that complaints are silly at such an early stage of the game. Some of the most entertaining moments was when I was dueling someone and either that player or I would use the jump packs and wallruns to perform fantastic evasive manuevers. That, and the use of boost with the environment with the mechs make for some tactical gameplay - especially with teammates. Of course everyone right now is just gonna be running everywhere at full speed like it's COD4. Given a few weeks, I expect a different and more entertaining/difficult type of gameplay using the wallrun and jumppacks to come out.

On March 11 2014 21:00 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 03:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:06 ManniBender wrote:
This Game is just bad. I played 3 Games in the Beta and the Game is just bad. The Maps are too small, the 6v6 is a joke and the Gunplay is Console Spray'N'Pray with no Recoil at all. Not to mention the ridiculous Auto-Aim Pistol.

And the fucking stupid Retardo-AI is the worst I have ever seen in any Game. The AI is clearly only there to give the worst of the worst Console-Casuals a chance to get some Pts to get into their Titan.

I have not played a Call of Duty since CoD4, so I guess its how Call of Duty is nowadays and that it what the Call of Duty Kiddies want.

And well the Graphics are terrible too, even Maxed out. At least it runs wiht 100fps on nearly every PC, but it also looks like that.

Titanfall feels 100% like a Console-Game. No Dedicated Servers, no Serverbrowser, no Chat - just a "PLAY" Button...

BF4 is the only Shooter I play atm and well it feels superior in every way. More weapons, more maps, bigger, better and the weapons feel way better and more different.


The AI is there because they want to make the fights not appear small. See, if you took a game like this and made it 16v16 or 32v32, all you'd have is a bunch of mechs fighting eachother by the halfway point, just like Hawken and other some such games (which is fine, but the problem then would be that Hawken already exists, making this game irrelevant). Because obviously even if playing infantry is reasonable and not too hard against mechs, almost everyone would still get their mechs as soon and as often as possible.

So they added in the AI to try to make it more enjoyable for both types of players, infantrymen will have more enemies to shoot at and will feel that they're part of a bigger war, and mechs will never outnumber infantry, as they otherwise would. Also I'm fairly sure the AI is there to act as a DotA-esque mechanic for the attrition gamemode where you gain victory points by slaughtering them. So it's not a game all about shooting the other guy in the face.

Can't comment on anything else.


even then its just a design choice many dont agree with. including me. was really interested when it got announced. and as i learned more and more about the game my interest disappeared.
i expected a new take on a bf2142 meets CoD or whatever. not smallscale stuff with bots running around.

and i think many thought titanfall would be more then just another "go play that deathmatch for 1-6 month then throw away" console shooter.


The problem is that in BF2142, the mechs were available on base in limited amounts - no different than tanks/choppers in BF4, BF3, BF:BC, etc. Here, we're calling down individual mechs for each player. I would be happy if it was more than 6 people, but I imagine more than 12 would be a bit crazy as the maps would need to be huge to accommodate that many mechs.
Yargh
NTTemplar
Profile Joined August 2011
609 Posts
March 11 2014 15:22 GMT
#439
A lot of the complaints the past few pages feels a lot like what someone says the first few games of DotA or League, which means formed based on little knowledge and barely any experiance playing the game.

First of all comments about bots I have seen so far that are anything other than "is this a good mechanic to reduce titan cooldown and gain mapcontrol?" have been stupid in my eyes.

Comments like "bots make everyone feel like a winner" is like saying "creeps in DotA makes everyone look like a pro, he killed over a 100 of those dudes!"

I personally think the spectres could use a buff making it more relevant to hack them but other than that I find ai working well as a mechanic.

As for rounds ending too fast this is something I heard complaints about in the beta as well and back then it turned out to not be a problem with the game as much as specific game modes like attrition (aka deathmatch), I played almost exclusively hardpoint which felt like had a good time per round; so from this it could appear some modes need an adjustment as to fix game length.

Now for the TTK issue, yes it is a bit low however the difference from this and CoD/BF is mobility, people run so damn fast in this that sure IF you hit it won't be much needed to kill them, but hitting is far harder than in any of the two previously mentioned games; at least when you are up against someone who utilize their mobility very well.
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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
March 11 2014 17:43 GMT
#440
If Respawn had made it 32v32 with mechs and no A.I., people would be complaining that it's just like other games in this genre still. Probably more. Respawn is trying something different here. They're attempting to revolutionize FPSs. If you don't like it, or don't want to try that style of "different," you'll always have those other titles to fall back upon.
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