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polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1765 Posts
December 14 2015 05:16 GMT
#8201
On December 11 2015 17:23 JSH wrote:
WAIT there is an option to turn off skill confirmation window???!!!
I didn't know that

So... do I run it again with it off now?
Not that I need to lol
I could've saved so much time D:

So everyone remember to do this too ;_;


BTW, thanks to this! :D I wouldn't know it either.
Leee Jaee Doong
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 05:48:26
December 14 2015 05:48 GMT
#8202
Glad it helped ;_;

Also I entered that "new" 99 sta Technical Dungeon with the blue dragon
I brought my YomiDra team for Arena just on a whim.

When I got to the boss, I realize he has 30% resolve
Then at less than 30%, he creates bunch of jammers then locks them, then he nukes next turn
I bypassed that nonsense with Zeus gravity

Stratios came in handy lol
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
December 14 2015 06:29 GMT
#8203
On December 14 2015 11:58 jinyung2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 09:51 Spazer wrote:
You can score high with average combo. Both dkpl and me did it with combo leads. You need to oneshot every floor and nuke floor 2 to maintain a high combo.

how high was your avg combo?

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 10:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 14 2015 09:30 jinyung2 wrote:
my uny team sucks D:

im at like 18.5% now T_T so dangerously close to being knocked out of 20%
im so disappointed, why is avg combo weight so low? makes no sense :l


I think volume is the key. Just run it a bunch of times and you'll get a lucky run into the top bracket. You do need a team that can sweep every floor, but the hitpoints aren't very high in the dungeon unless you're trying to kill Zeus with a green team.

Ideally that team has enough skill boosts to use lilith on the second floor, but top bracket is possible with a kill skill too.


meh i dont plan to run it more than once
if i fall below 20% too bad i guess i just suck
whast weird though is i did sweep every floor except the one flubbed floor. my time took a little longer though since I accidentally matched on floor 2 instead of pressing ra right away, and i had skill confirmation on. i also play mostly with cascade and im starting to suspect it takes more time to clear orbs than just power scrubbing it... which is lame i dont wanna powerscrub its so mindless and boring.

6.8 or 6.9 combo. You can poison floor 2 but it'll tank your combo, so a nuke is preferred.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 09:31:47
December 14 2015 09:30 GMT
#8204
I didn't even bother with high max combo because they tend to be even more luck based than the speed runs. I ended up with 116k with a full speed run with a hilarious YomiDra team and it didn't take that many tries.

My firecat team had a rough time breaking 110k. The one time I did break it I had like a 9.6 average combo which was only worth like 60k. The issue was that playing out the combos and the game calculating the damage actually screwed your time really badly. It took me a few tries to do it that way. Now granted I play a much more heavily cascade style than most others and those take longer to play out.. But it does allow me to hit high combos really regularly. I honestly think if you want the most out of Sakuya cascading is a must

YomiDra took 3 tries for 116k...so yea.

That and max damage was a useless stat. Max damage needed a heavier weight to make Combo and Time roughly equal.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
December 14 2015 10:14 GMT
#8205
What is the absolute perfect Bastet team ?
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
December 14 2015 10:22 GMT
#8206
Also - what to do with vishnu skillups?
Does the skillup dungeon ever appear normally?
Does it appear in coin dungeons?
Should pii's be spent on him ?
I don't believe you.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 11:55:26
December 14 2015 10:24 GMT
#8207
It honestly depends on the dungeon
Different dungeon has different mechanics that you need help with

And the beautiful thing with Bastet is she has such a huge sub pool to work with
That is also a reason why she is such a good leader

Some good subs are-
Full Board Change: Verdandi, Meimei
Orb change: Vishnu, Spica, Kaede, Osiris, Liu Bei, Perseus, Sasuke
Defense: Susano, Kushinadahime
Delay: Christmas Alraune (lol), CaoCao (off type, but not bad)
Bind Clear: Amaterasu, Thumbelina

Just mix and match what you need

On December 14 2015 19:22 abuse wrote:
Also - what to do with vishnu skillups?
Does the skillup dungeon ever appear normally?
Does it appear in coin dungeons?
Should pii's be spent on him ?


Vishnu skill up is the Beetle Dungeon that appears in Coin Rotation
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=1026
Skilling up Vishnu is a pain, but well worth it
Unless you have absolute no need for Green Pii/have extra using it is not a bad idea, but Vishnu takes so many skill levels, you need to feed him skill ups


Also my Arena team is finally complete
Time to take down Kali

edit: rip
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I thought I would be ok with Castor going into Kali binded
Oh was I wrong
I couldn't activate Diza or YomiD to heal
I got impatient on Blue Hera, should've stalled the binds out

But this team is very good!
I think it's going to be pretty consistent~

Ironically I died to being skill binded...
Something I wanted Castor for to prevent with his double SBR
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 14:33:48
December 14 2015 14:32 GMT
#8208
Why not just clear bind with row heart O.o

Best bind clear for Bastet is Ceres (besides OdinDra obviously)

I run MeiMei MeiMei Verd, last spot between Vishnu / Susano and Ceres depending on situation.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
December 14 2015 16:00 GMT
#8209
On December 14 2015 15:29 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 11:58 jinyung2 wrote:
On December 14 2015 09:51 Spazer wrote:
You can score high with average combo. Both dkpl and me did it with combo leads. You need to oneshot every floor and nuke floor 2 to maintain a high combo.

how high was your avg combo?

On December 14 2015 10:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 14 2015 09:30 jinyung2 wrote:
my uny team sucks D:

im at like 18.5% now T_T so dangerously close to being knocked out of 20%
im so disappointed, why is avg combo weight so low? makes no sense :l


I think volume is the key. Just run it a bunch of times and you'll get a lucky run into the top bracket. You do need a team that can sweep every floor, but the hitpoints aren't very high in the dungeon unless you're trying to kill Zeus with a green team.

Ideally that team has enough skill boosts to use lilith on the second floor, but top bracket is possible with a kill skill too.


meh i dont plan to run it more than once
if i fall below 20% too bad i guess i just suck
whast weird though is i did sweep every floor except the one flubbed floor. my time took a little longer though since I accidentally matched on floor 2 instead of pressing ra right away, and i had skill confirmation on. i also play mostly with cascade and im starting to suspect it takes more time to clear orbs than just power scrubbing it... which is lame i dont wanna powerscrub its so mindless and boring.

6.8 or 6.9 combo. You can poison floor 2 but it'll tank your combo, so a nuke is preferred.

ya looking at your results and mine i had the higher combo at 7.9 but i used like 40 more secs
the extra score i got from 1.1 avg combo was 5500 while 40 more secs was like 21150

looks like avg combo is worth 5k per combo. 7.9 combo = 39500 and your 6.8 combos = 34000 divides the same.. seems like there is no exponential growth for higher numbers so to make back that 21150 lost on time id have to hit 11.13 combos lol
Argentina
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
December 14 2015 16:04 GMT
#8210
tbh, I wasn't aiming for combo. Like I'd match 5 combos per trash floor + hermes floor, and match hard for the ninja and zeus floor. 6.8 is what I got after getting a couple skyfalls. I'm still valuing speed over combo, but the side effect of playing a bastet team naturally gives a higher combo score.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
December 14 2015 16:19 GMT
#8211
i was definitely aiming for combos but ya combos are weighted pretty poorly compared to time.

looking at the results right now im at exactly 20% :D
Argentina
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 16:32:21
December 14 2015 16:31 GMT
#8212
@abuse:

I run 2 Meimei, 1 Verd, 1 flex like ragz. It's an extremely solid team.

Top tier Bastet subs generally have the following things going for them: time extend, skill bind resist, 2-prongs, and skill boosts. Verd and Meimei have all of these in spades. Meimei is better because her haste is invaluable. The only reason Verd edges out a third Meimei is because of her rcv, and the healing potential of her active. You also get marginally more damage from her active's fire orbs, but meh.

Vishnu and Bastet have low enough CDs that you can probably use them twice in a dungeon. Meimei also helps here with her haste.

Cao Cao comes out for perseverance bosses. Susano for shields. I also put A.Sakuya/Lmeta in the flex slot as bind clears because I have no Ceres.

As JSH said, the insect dragon that skills up Vishnu comes up on coin dungeon sometimes. You will need to stone it. A lot. Vishnu takes an ungodly amount of skillups. It took me about a week of running the dungeon (planning levelups around the dungeon and whatnot) before I was done with my skillups.

For the love of god, don't use piis on Vishnu. Assuming you have 200 stamina, you can expect an average of one skillup per stone (the dungeon being 50 stam). The dungeon also gives reasonable xp, which helps with levelups. In contrast, it generally takes way more than a stone to get a pii from coin dungeons. Save them for awoken cards.

Just a final note: attack +egg priority should go to Vishnu because his triple prong multiplies the shit out of attack.

The point cutoff for the ranking dungeon looks like 112k.
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dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
December 14 2015 16:44 GMT
#8213
Huh

I run 1 verd 1 meimei 1 vishnu and susano who's usually the flex spot.

Just wondering how the 2nd Meimei works out for you guys, especially in dungeons like c10 where you need a shield anyway (which I assume means you're not packing vishnu)

I like vishnu cuz his active on the first turn usually means an easier activation or multiple TPAs. On subsequent rounds, the increased green orbs means I can pop bastet(s) for some heavy damage as well.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
December 14 2015 17:26 GMT
#8214
I actually only have like 60 stamina now on my US account so stoning to max skill 2 vishnus is going to be intense as hell..

I only have 1 meimei and no verdandi, but I have a sasuke.
Is it worth putting 2 vishnus on one team? I have 2 available. I kinda have it in my head that having 2 of them would give a permanent increase in green orb drop rate which is great, and a crapload of damage.
Or is 2 vishnus on 1 bastet team a bad idea?
I don't believe you.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
December 14 2015 17:55 GMT
#8215
On December 15 2015 01:44 dkpl wrote:
Huh

I run 1 verd 1 meimei 1 vishnu and susano who's usually the flex spot.

Just wondering how the 2nd Meimei works out for you guys, especially in dungeons like c10 where you need a shield anyway (which I assume means you're not packing vishnu)

I like vishnu cuz his active on the first turn usually means an easier activation or multiple TPAs. On subsequent rounds, the increased green orbs means I can pop bastet(s) for some heavy damage as well.


I like 2nd MeiMei much better than Vishnu, but I also don't really trust skyfall + actives very much. IMO it's better to make sure you can burst things that need bursted, than hopefully skyfall gives a board good enough. If you have + skyfall but still need to orb change anyway, it's not all that too useful, and I prob run Osiris over Vishnu if I have him.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 18:12:46
December 14 2015 18:11 GMT
#8216
On December 15 2015 01:31 Spazer wrote:
The point cutoff for the ranking dungeon looks like 112k.


112828 points for 10%. I wandered up to 10.1% sometime last night less than 100 points to next tier...So much for that Woodpy.

On December 15 2015 02:26 abuse wrote:
I actually only have like 60 stamina now on my US account so stoning to max skill 2 vishnus is going to be intense as hell..

I only have 1 meimei and no verdandi, but I have a sasuke.
Is it worth putting 2 vishnus on one team? I have 2 available. I kinda have it in my head that having 2 of them would give a permanent increase in green orb drop rate which is great, and a crapload of damage.
Or is 2 vishnus on 1 bastet team a bad idea?


Unless you have every green card then two vishnus isn't that bad. When you're deciding between Vishnu and Chu or ADKZ I'd pick Vishnu every time. If you can fill up on other REM exclusives then they are probably better if only to avoid skilling up two Vishnus.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 18:26:11
December 14 2015 18:22 GMT
#8217
I generally run 3 Meimei actually with 1 flex. Sometimes two with a Vishnu but that's fairly rare. This generally keeps the pain train going than anything else I've tried due to the haste.

Vishnu is extremely solid though and his CD is so low that using him twice in most dungeons is guaranteed if you have at least 2 haste.

I think it most cases running 2 Meimei is probably the sweet spot... So a perfect bastet team would start at bastet and 2x Meimei.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 14 2015 18:23 GMT
#8218
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dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
December 14 2015 18:46 GMT
#8219
I did roll meimei 2 and 3 during pcgf, I'll probably at least work on hypering #2, just so i can have 1 more haste if I need her. I agree being able to activate vishnu twice in 1 dungeon is incredible. I used to be in the same boat that skyfalls are inconsistent, but sometimes vishnu can save a bad board change too. I think he gives more consistency to the team than not tbh
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
December 14 2015 20:21 GMT
#8220
how was everyone's christmas rem experience

34 rolls for me, 1 gold (santa sakuya)

wish i had stopped after i got her instead of rolling 23 more times but i'm just glad i got her since other than kali she was the one i really wanted
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