Funny thing is that if they put blonia in MP shop I'd buy that over anything T.T

Eschamali is good for YomiDra sure, just that I'm not sure she is actually better than most run subs (yomidra, haku, mitsuhide, okuni) now. She is great for AYomi though.

If she converts fire or water she'd be top top tier no question, but wood and no haste just make her awkward.

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

December 10 2015 13:31 GMT

#8042

so it looks like coop dungeons are the next power spike content

jinyung2

Luxembourg1455 Posts

December 10 2015 14:45 GMT

#8043

On December 10 2015 18:25 abuse wrote:

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yeah, but her attack is 653, lol.

Even at +297 her attack is only 950. Overall she looks good but not amazing.
And the fact that she is Water-based does not help.

I think you did the math wrong
653 + 5*99 = 1148
1148*(1.5)^5*1.25 = 10897 5tpa blue girl

orochi
1495*(1.5)^4*1.25 = 9460

vishnu (including 10% from subtype grass)
2225*1.1)*(1.5)^3*1.25 = 10325

so assuming my math is correct basically she's the new strongest TPA damage monster
gungho knows what they are doing for sure when they make a 5tpa monster, its definitely MARGINALLY stronger so they whales can whale out for it but its so little its not game breaking lol

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

December 10 2015 16:44 GMT

#8044

5 TPAs are a huge liability that isn't really worth it for such a tiny damage increase. When you end up with 7 orbs or 11 orbs you can't just match three orbs and still do decent damage since the card has such little attack. If you end up with too many orbs and need to make a row then you also lose a ton of damage as well.

and this doesn't even touch on the fact that green TPA is a staple whereas there isn't really a great water TPA team. Maybe you can throw something together with AI&I and Ryune, but you aren't going to come close to the OE of the typical Bastet team so it isn't going to get you more damage in the end.

All this skill up farming is making me regret setting up this I&I team...I didn't think I'd be farming Thursday for tri-fruits anytime soon

ragz_gt

9172 Posts

December 10 2015 17:01 GMT

#8045

You never run TPA alone though. When you run TPA pretty much everything on team has multiple TPA, so not getting any is not an option.

Water TPA is not bad, with Valk, Sumire, Skuld, Summer Urd, Nut, AI&I, Ryune, Umibro. It doesn't really have a good leader to run with unless you run tanky team of either Nut or AI&Ryune. Sara is ok but you can't get 100% SBR and run new GFE.

Probably most feasible is AI&I, new one, Urd, Umibro, Sumire, Ryune.
I think biggest problem with her is that Nut is better unless you need the HP.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

December 10 2015 17:16 GMT

#8046

Maybe my Verd team has too many 1 TPA cards that makes 7 orbs still kill things. With 5 TPAs you're talking an order of magnitude in the damage differential. With most of the team only having a single TPA that gap isn't nearly as big.

My numbers are off cause I had an extra 1.5x in there ^_^

On December 11 2015 02:28 jinyung2 wrote:
i dont get it why is 5tpa a huge liability

if your team is tpa based then youll be matching 4 anyways right?

I gave an extra TPA to one of the calculations so it ended up being a huge difference when it was just a math error

jinyung2

Luxembourg1455 Posts

December 10 2015 17:28 GMT

#8047

i dont get it why is 5tpa a huge liability

if your team is tpa based then youll be matching 4 anyways right?

dkpl

Canada1485 Posts

December 10 2015 17:41 GMT

#8048

It's not. The 5k HP can't be written off.

Imagine if Gungho suddenly gave a card like Vishnu an extra 2300 hp buff.

That's what this card is like.

Cept their awakenings outside of the mass TPAs and mass rows suck

Only the dark one is decent imo.

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

December 10 2015 18:00 GMT

#8049

If monsters with skill
X X A A B
are fused into monster of skill X,

does it matter for X skill rank up that the monsters of different skills were fused along side with relevant monsters?

Edit: Thanks!

jinyung2

Luxembourg1455 Posts

December 10 2015 18:01 GMT

#8050

the active seems pretty useful though
light heart poison jammer to main color and increase main color skyfall for 4 turns
although 10 turns is a bit long i guess

edit: oh the dark one is wood heart poison jammer

On December 11 2015 03:00 Hesmyrr wrote:
If monsters with skill
X X A A B
are fused into monster of skill X,

does it matter for X skill rank up that the monsters of different skills were fused along side with relevant monsters?

no skill up for X isnt effected by A A and B

ragz_gt

9172 Posts

December 10 2015 18:17 GMT

#8051

10 turn is very long, especially that blue TPA doesn't have as many haste.
Skyfall isn't very useful for that team as well except Sara, but Sara team is not really a thing unless she gets a SBR.

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

December 10 2015 19:53 GMT

#8052

problem is water tpa teams are gimmicky whale farm teams. yea you are ultra super tanky but damage is way too low for anything major

ragz_gt

9172 Posts

December 10 2015 20:01 GMT

#8053

It's much easier to make water row team and they are much better.
Water TPA is more for people who randomly rolled skuld and nut but doesn't have karin / hermes

Though you are underestimating the damage a bit. It is enough for anything besides Arena.

dkpl

Canada1485 Posts

December 10 2015 20:14 GMT

#8054

what about people who have (two) karin and hermes and nothing else

ragz_gt

9172 Posts

December 10 2015 20:15 GMT

#8055

On December 11 2015 05:14 dkpl wrote:
what about people who have (two) karin and hermes and nothing else

You can make Hermes AI&I team, which isn't bad.

JSH

United States4109 Posts

December 10 2015 20:15 GMT

#8056

https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/posts/1181467495215174
NO
NOT BEFORE CHRISTMAS REM

If I roll the dark one I'm definitely going to put it on my YomiDra team
turning jammers and poisons is a big deal, heart break is more situational, but pairing with Yomidra heart making active is potent
And all mighty haste on 7CD

I was going to roll Christmas, but now... I might just skip and roll this instead