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On October 27 2015 07:58 dkpl wrote: I highly doubt I can come anywhere close to clearing ultimate arena.
Also don't wanna skill up Z&H
The other advantage of ultimate arena is that it isn't an event that you have to finish in a few days. With enough power creep all of us will wreck ultimate arena eventually
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lol pulled directors carnival cus i had stones left got vrtira lol
i guess its not a dupe
edit: pulled again, got a horus dupe zzzzzzzzzzzzzz I should probably sell this right?
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wait i thought leveled dupes needs a uevo form for the 100% skill up, or does elia and grisar count as a uevo form? I know they've done that in the past for some cards (bmeta) but I never heard of elia/grisar getting same treatment
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On October 27 2015 11:34 dkpl wrote: wait i thought leveled dupes needs a uevo form for the 100% skill up, or does elia and grisar count as a uevo form? I know they've done that in the past for some cards (bmeta) but I never heard of elia/grisar getting same treatment ya that seems correct need uevo for it to work. didnt work with kali before uevo but works now right?
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On October 27 2015 10:43 jinyung2 wrote: lol pulled directors carnival cus i had stones left got vrtira lol
i guess its not a dupe
edit: pulled again, got a horus dupe zzzzzzzzzzzzzz I should probably sell this right?
Horus is pretty safe to sell yeah, Awoken Horus is not really any good and even if you want run him you would never want dupe.
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On October 27 2015 11:34 dkpl wrote: wait i thought leveled dupes needs a uevo form for the 100% skill up, or does elia and grisar count as a uevo form? I know they've done that in the past for some cards (bmeta) but I never heard of elia/grisar getting same treatment
Mmm... prob thinking about something else (actually prob Z8). Well, most likely just end up Pii that shit then.
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ya i sold him oh well :S
is there going to be an awoken indra vritra or is the split uevo it for now?
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split uevo are it right now. indra has been sneaky important but it's mostly the original uevo for the HP. vrtra is useful for goemon / rodin clicky but not much else.
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welp i guess i pulled junk T_T
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elia/ilya is a 6m exp card so 100% skill up would be insane
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more insane than 47 runs and only getting 2 invades?
edit: I just had a run where awilda converted my green orbs to heal on pre-empt, changed my green orbs to blue on her first turn, then changed my green orbs to heal again on her second turn -__-
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I'm not meant to run z8, currently skill up rates on 2.5x for him is 5/35
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you can do it!!!
+ Show Spoiler +
new descend boss on jp Volsungr AS: 1 turn 50% dragon / attacker type damage + turns board to RBGLD. LS: 4x ATK when attacking with 4 Att., Atk boost by 1.5x after 7+ combos.
cuts dragon and attacker type damage in half but kali board, 6 turn CD :O
seems pretty perfect for UnY, it's like famiel cept better
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Im wondering what could be my ideal Shiva team.
All this time I was hoping to pull CaoCao for both my urd and shiva teams, but now that I pulled a red valk I'm sitting at Shiva -- Urd/Urd/Valk/A.Hino -- Shiva I'm not sure I would give up one urd to put in a Cao Cao, as I prefer a full board change which guarantees a big shiva hit + heals me to full hp instead of a 1 turn delay and a water to fire orb change on the same cooldown as an Urd board change.. Also CaoCao has like 0 RCV while Urd brings awesome RCV to the table..(hell, 1 hyper urd brings 1615 RCV...) Especially since when Urd gets an Ulti evo, if it follows the same pattern as Verd, then she will get more skill boosts..
What do you guys think.. ? What is the PERFECT shiva team anyway?
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I think the weakest link in that team is actually Kagu. He just has really poor fit except that he has 3 TPA, and he is blocking you from have 100% skill lock resist.
As for Urd versus CaoCao, tri color jin is no more consistent than a 1 color orb change (both produce 33% color board but with orb change you know what you would get before hand and can choose accordingly). If you really want more healing I actually would run YamaTake over 2nd Urd. The RCV is not a problem with enough +, as all you would ever want is full heal with 1 heat match 6 combo, and you can do that even with Cao Cao + Kagu.
I would run Urd Urd Valk CaoCao with your choices. As for ideal team, there are a lot ways to go, but I think Urd CaoCao CaoCao chibiChiyo for damage, and Urd Mamiya CaoCao PhoenixRider for tanky build
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On October 27 2015 21:57 ragz_gt wrote: I think the weakest link in that team is actually Kagu. He just has really poor fit except that he has 3 TPA, and he is blocking you from have 100% skill lock resist.
As for Urd versus CaoCao, tri color jin is no more consistent than a 1 color orb change (both produce 33% color board but with orb change you know what you would get before hand and can choose accordingly). If you really want more healing I actually would run YamaTake over 2nd Urd. The RCV is not a problem with enough +, as all you would ever want is full heal with 1 heat match 6 combo, and you can do that even with Cao Cao + Kagu.
I would run Urd Urd Valk CaoCao with your choices. As for ideal team, there are a lot ways to go, but I think Urd CaoCao CaoCao chibiChiyo for damage, and Urd Mamiya CaoCao PhoenixRider for tanky build
The skill lock resist is not much of an issue for me currently. Also Urd gives more RCV than Yamato, and I like her active more. Yamato's extra finger is nice though. That being said, I don't even have Yamato, so no dice either way.  I kind of have a bias towards kagu a bit I suppose, as I wanted him so much for so long. His active is great for me, as I love his defense break aswell when I don't want to use up a shiva.
Also, I disagree that Cao cao and a tri color is the same consistency. Urd's active is much better, as it clears the entire board and turns it into ONLY needed colors. Granting me a fire and water attack as well as a full heal, and you can use it at absolutely any time. CaoCao's active turns water into red. If you have no waters on the board when you need to use the active, then you're screwed. Also Urd's active gets rid of any poisons or jammers, which caocao doesn't do.. AND after urd's active i get a fresh new board, which has a higher chance to have usable colors, than a board which has unusable colors left after I use up all the water and fire orbs.
Why Mamiya for tanky build?
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Urd you can get 3 fire orb after active and you are kind of screwed. With CaoCao you know beforehand what you gonna get and can plan accordingly (which is also why you want run at least 2 different color orb change). Jin clears poison / jammer is nice but situation where you need 2 of them are pretty rare (Beel is only one I can think of). As for other orbs, you need 6 combo for Shiva anyway so you would only have 10~ orb max no matter what.
Also don't forget CaoCao has a delay, which is what allows Shiva to keep up with 7-8mil hp enemy with 20.25x
Mamiya has 20% dark resist, which is by far the most annoying color overall. And works really well with Phoenix Rider.
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On October 27 2015 22:30 ragz_gt wrote: Urd you can get 3 fire orb after active and you are kind of screwed. With CaoCao you know beforehand what you gonna get and can plan accordingly (which is also why you want run at least 2 different color orb change). Jin clears poison / jammer is nice but situation where you need 2 of them are pretty rare (Beel is only one I can think of). As for other orbs, you need 6 combo for Shiva anyway so you would only have 10~ orb max no matter what.
Also don't forget CaoCao has a delay, which is what allows Shiva to keep up with 7-8mil hp enemy with 20.25x
Mamiya has 20% dark resist, which is by far the most annoying color overall. And works really well with Phoenix Rider.
got it, thanks! I do kinda think that for shiva the most annoying color is blue, haha =D
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caocao is miles better than urd as a sub. No reason you can't have 1 of each though.
As far as RCV issues go, Shiva is one of those weird teams where his RCV is too low on the low end of the spectrum, and is extremely tanky on the high end of the spectrum. As such, subs like phoenix rider and mamiya don't really show their true worth until you've reached a certain level of +eggs on the team.
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most shiva teams ive seen people seem to have urd rvalk caocao in the team so that after they urd they can rvalk or caocao accordingly depending on which color will give a good amount of red orbs but not oversaturate it to the point where you cant combo. maybe uevo set will fit a bit better for burst now? but his cd is quite long.
about to run decsend carnival, please drop tengu D:
edit: haha sick tengu on my first run :D
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