EPTIm curious to see where all the Mega pokemons land and if they will differentiate the megas from the non megas in tiering
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Im curious to see where all the Mega pokemons land and if they will differentiate the megas from the non megas in tiering | ||
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rebdomine
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
It's possible that they vastly expanded the list of Pokemon that get it via egg move, but in Gen 5, the egg move Defog learners were for the most part irrelevant Pokemon, and Skarmory wasn't one of them. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On October 28 2013 17:18 Orcasgt24 wrote: I would be shocked if Blaziken isn't Ubers. Its not good enough to survive in that meta game but in OU it would wreck faces. Im curious to see where all the Mega pokemons land and if they will differentiate the megas from the non megas in tiering yeah i'd be very surprised if blaziken doesn't make ubers though fairy now resists both of his stabs so idk megas are probably going to be tiered as different formes rotom-w, rotom-h, lando-i, lando-t, etc are already tiered that way so why not | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On October 28 2013 17:24 TheYango wrote: How does Skarmory get Defog in Gen 6 when the only way it learned it before was as a Gen 4 HM? You'd have to go DPPt->HGSS->Gen 5->Pokemon Bank to get it into Gen 6. It's possible that they vastly expanded the list of Pokemon that get it via egg move, but in Gen 5, the egg move Defog learners were for the most part irrelevant Pokemon. oh maybe you can only get it via pokemon bank i forgot about that hopefully they expanded egg moves i always thought it was dumb you had to go back like 3 generations to get certain moves | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On October 28 2013 17:26 TheYango wrote: Fairy doesn't resist Fire. oh ur right i got it backwards fire resists fairy | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 28 2013 17:29 Dead9 wrote: oh maybe you can only get it via pokemon bank i forgot about that hopefully they expanded egg moves i always thought it was dumb you had to go back like 3 generations to get certain moves I'd assume it's intentional. There are probably some things that Game Freak changed their minds about with regard to what moves Pokemon should and shouldn't have access to ("Maybe it wasn't a good idea to let Dragonite learn Extremespeed...") so this is their way of trying to limit availability of those moves without outright making older gen Pokemon incompatible with newer games. Simulators assume that everything that's possible is usable, but GF obviously doesn't balance around simulators. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
a large portion of comp players in gen4/5 cheated for them since breeding was such a pain edit: i mean idk, unless they change trade mechanics (drop all old moves or something) or make a pokecheck which can detect "legitimate" cheated pokemon (which i doubt is even possible) there's still gonna be hacked mons as soon as pokebank is open | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On October 28 2013 17:17 Dead9 wrote: blaziken's prolly gonna be ubers again i'd swap out amoonguss for something else, he doesn't really do much tbh even with an amoonguss/slowbro core slowbro pulls most of the weight that's why amoonguss is RU and slowbro is UU also idk about forretress, you lose a lot of momentum spinning with him because he has zero offensive presence i'd just run defog skarm or something (rocks, defog, roost, whirlwind/brave bird) Could I do Starmie as my spinner, good offense as well. Then since blaze is prob ubers could Lucario(Mega) fit that spot. Assuming he also doesn't end up in ubers? I would still need to figure out what to do without adding more steel types to the mix lol. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 284-336 (82.79 - 97.95%) -- 68.75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Adaptability Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 162-192 (48.5 - 57.48%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock try not to worry so much about making a perfect team, it's pretty much impossible and there are a lot of pokes that are interchangeable between teams anyway edit: er by interchangeable between teams i mean if you breed a perfect timid starmie and don't end up using it on team A you can always use it on team B | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
Currently I'm planning to run a dedicated baton pass team: + Show Spoiler + 1. Espeon (lead) Nature: Timid Ability: Magic Bounce 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD -Baton Pass -Reflect -Light Screen -Stored Power Item: Light Clay 2. Blaziken Nature: Adamant/Jolly Nature Ability: Speed Boost 252 ATK 252 / Speed 4 HP -High Jump Kick -Flare Blitz -Baton Pass -Swords Dance Item:Life Orb 3. Scolipede Nature: Jolly Nature Ability: Speed Boost 252HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe -MegaHornn -Substitute -Bulk Up -Baton Pass Item: Focus Slash 4. Mawile (Mega) Nature: Adamant Ability: Intimidate -> Huge Power 252 Atk / 172 Def / 84 Spe -Sucker Punch -Play Rough -Baton Pass -Bulk Up Item: Mega Stone 5. Hydreigon Nature: Timid Ability: Levitate 4hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe -Draco Meteor -Fire Blast -Earthquake -Stone Edge Item: Expert Belt 6. Vaporeon Nature: Bold Ability: Water Absorb 244 HP / 136 Def / 128 Spe -Baton Pass -Acid Armour -Wish -Scald Item: Leftovers So I decided on this line up to try and battle against my friend's team of + Show Spoiler + garchomp gengar charizard lucario jolteon greninja (TBD) He generally just chose non-legendary pokemons and will probably build them with a sweeper/boost set of some sort. The idea is to lead with Espeon and set up dual screen and then BP out to either Blaziken for an immediate sweep or any of the other booster depending on the situation. Vaporeon is there for wish support and extra def boost. When enough boost is acquired switch Hydreigon to mow down everything as the final sweeper. Any ideas or suggestion would be greatly appreciated as i'm pretty noob and my only source has been smogon and lurking the pokemon thread =s | ||
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Nighttiger
United States5 Posts
On October 28 2013 23:07 me_viet wrote: Sup TL! just wondering if I can get some input on the team i'm planning to build against my friend =] Currently I'm planning to run a dedicated baton pass team: + Show Spoiler + 1. Espeon (lead) Nature: Timid Ability: Magic Bounce 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD -Baton Pass -Reflect -Light Screen -Stored Power Item: Light Clay 2. Blaziken Nature: Adamant/Jolly Nature Ability: Speed Boost 252 ATK 252 / Speed 4 HP -High Jump Kick -Flare Blitz -Baton Pass -Swords Dance Item:Life Orb 3. Scolipede Nature: Jolly Nature Ability: Speed Boost 252HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe -MegaHornn -Substitute -Bulk Up -Baton Pass Item: Focus Slash 4. Mawile (Mega) Nature: Adamant Ability: Intimidate -> Huge Power 252 Atk / 172 Def / 84 Spe -Sucker Punch -Play Rough -Baton Pass -Bulk Up Item: Mega Stone 5. Hydreigon Nature: Timid Ability: Levitate 4hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe -Draco Meteor -Fire Blast -Earthquake -Stone Edge Item: Expert Belt 6. Vaporeon Nature: Bold Ability: Water Absorb 244 HP / 136 Def / 128 Spe -Baton Pass -Acid Armour -Wish -Scald Item: Leftovers So I decided on this line up to try and battle against my friend's team of + Show Spoiler + garchomp gengar charizard lucario jolteon greninja (TBD) He generally just chose non-legendary pokemons and will probably build them with a sweeper/boost set of some sort. The idea is to lead with Espeon and set up dual screen and then BP out to either Blaziken for an immediate sweep or any of the other booster depending on the situation. Vaporeon is there for wish support and extra def boost. When enough boost is acquired switch Hydreigon to mow down everything as the final sweeper. Any ideas or suggestion would be greatly appreciated as i'm pretty noob and my only source has been smogon and lurking the pokemon thread =s No expert on Baton Pass, but usually Baton Pass teams run Ingrain so Whirlwind and Roar can't remove all your boosts in 1 move. If he's expecting Baton Pass, your friend will probably put Roar on Garchomp and Charizard, which would stop your team easily. In addition, while it may not be relevant to this match, all sound moves now go through Substitute. This alone almost makes Mr. Mime's Soundproof ability necessary unless you want to die to stuff like Noivern's Boomburst/Roar. I personally run a Noivern over Latios almost exclusively for this reason (and because Gliscor...). | ||
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DropBear
Australia4368 Posts
Anyone got a dragon, rock or steel safari? Would love to add you. I have shitty bug type but I do have Pinsir in mine. Send me a PM plzzz 0533 5024 9692 | ||
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Fazers
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lethyl
United States207 Posts
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Fazers
736 Posts
On October 29 2013 01:13 lethyl wrote: i think you have to be online to see the 3rd pokemon in your friend safari That explains why I couldn't see the 3rd pokemon. ><~ Well okay, thanks. Also how do I figure out what pokemon type I offer for the friend safari? Thanks Once again, my code is: 2423-3208-7397  Message me if you added me | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On October 28 2013 05:14 iCanada wrote: Just out of curiosity, is that Egg I sent you a Scyther, Venopede, or Heracross? lol. It was a Heracross! Been the most useful pokemon I've got, mostly cause Close Combat wrecks face, even when they resist it. I also got a Venonat from Kiett, and a Rufflet from Vayne from people at TL. Rufflet is also pretty damn useful :D | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On October 29 2013 01:20 Milkis wrote: It was a Heracross! Been the most useful pokemon I've got, mostly cause Close Combat wrecks face, even when they resist it. I also got a Venonat from Kiett, and a Rufflet from Vayne from people at TL. Rufflet is also pretty damn useful :D well it would suck to do the game without fly so figured I would help you out there lol He's also pretty challenging to use considering he evolves at level 54, but he does learn some great moves. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
My idea: Tyrantrum Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk) 252 Attack, X in Bulk, X in Speed - Stealth Rocks I can calculate the optimal speed IV for certain numbers given X boosts and no boosts later but I was curious about the rest of his moveset. He has the weird/new Strong Jaw ability that makes fangs essentially moves with a stab bonus. I was thinking - Head Smash 150 + 75 = 225 Power (But miss + recoil) - Ice Fang 65 + 33 = 98 Power - Fire Fang 65 + 33 = 98 Power Other options, although I'm not sure since he gets such weird strong coverages - Crunch 80 + 40 = 120 Power - Poison Fang 50 + 25 = 75 - Thunder Fang 65 + 33 = 98 Power - Dragon Claw 80 + 40 = 120 Power - Earthquake 100 = 100 Power Thoughts? | ||
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