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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
October 10 2013 17:52 GMT
#1561
Can someone enlighten a noob? I just unlocked BLM and it doesn't seem like there are any real benefits to being BLM over being THM. All I got was one new spell to trade HP for MP, which seems kind of useless at the moment. And I have lost the ability to use many cross class skills? Cure for example can by used by THM but not BLM?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 17:57:07
October 10 2013 17:56 GMT
#1562
no real benefit apart from significantly better stats. The teleport is very useful is used properly, though

edit: scheduled Titan with FC on monday. This is pretty much a guaranteed clear so I'll just need to grind a bit and I'll have relic +1 and full darklight set by monday/tuesday ^^
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
October 10 2013 18:14 GMT
#1563
You'll get additional spell every 5 levels, check out http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Black_Mage for a listing. You can cross skill arcanist abilities as well as archer abilities. If you wanted a Cure for example, you can use Physick.
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 10 2013 18:37 GMT
#1564
The stat bonuses for using BLM are significant enough to warrant playing it over THM in most situations.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 10 2013 18:42 GMT
#1565
Do people have any experience with scholar game play? One of my biggest concerns is properly managing my pet's aggro while also keeping an eye on my own. Is the AI any good at this or do I have to be very careful?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 19:02:37
October 10 2013 19:02 GMT
#1566
If the tank is doing its job, pet heals are so tiny that it doesn't draw much aggro at all. Scholar has a much easier time with aggro than WM in general because first of all their aggro is spread and second, some of it is shield. You shouldn't have problems with eminity at all as scholar with a decent tank most of the time.

Note my scholar is a scrub +30 int one with bad gear
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#1567
if the scholar pet is getting agro, the tank needs to reroll.
There is NO HOPE for that tank.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 10 2013 19:43 GMT
#1568
Ok I was just wondering, cause there has been a few times when I'm doing dungeons in the mid 20s where my pet took aggro and just kind of died.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 10 2013 21:23 GMT
#1569
Might help to control it such that it does not use the regen spell immediately when pulling/aggroing mobs/bosses. Remember that any overhealing will build threat. Another way to help prevent your pet from healing too early on is to stoneskin and adloq-- the tank and/or party as needed before contact.
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 10 2013 21:53 GMT
#1570
On October 11 2013 04:43 Nos- wrote:
Ok I was just wondering, cause there has been a few times when I'm doing dungeons in the mid 20s where my pet took aggro and just kind of died.


I wouldn't worry about it if you're in dungeons below 50 honestly. The people that do those are terrible. At 50 in coils you and your pet are going to have to heal immediately as the pull begins or tank dies. But other than trying to keep the pet out of aoes you can let it do it's own thing.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 10 2013 22:43 GMT
#1571
On October 11 2013 04:43 Nos- wrote:
Ok I was just wondering, cause there has been a few times when I'm doing dungeons in the mid 20s where my pet took aggro and just kind of died.


Do you mean arcanist and not scholar? Because scholar doesn't unlock til level 30, so I don't see how you were doing dungeons mid-20's as a scholar. Arcanist, make sure you aren't using the tanking pet.
Sephyr
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia665 Posts
October 11 2013 08:51 GMT
#1572
On October 11 2013 04:43 Nos- wrote:
Ok I was just wondering, cause there has been a few times when I'm doing dungeons in the mid 20s where my pet took aggro and just kind of died.


It's hard for any tank at those levels if the DPS are actually good etc etc because they really don't have many spells to keep threat apart from Flash. I had an insane amount of troubles healing as a CNJ on the lower levels. Got progressively easier later on.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 11 2013 22:05 GMT
#1573
Tried Titan with a PUG for over 4 hours, FINALLY killed him at the end, and we had 6 alive and it wasn't close at all.

No one had relics and all were trying to get their relics

No FC, no getting carried! Fucking legit Titan and it feels so good <3
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 12 2013 01:10 GMT
#1574
twitch.tv/atraix

Turn 4.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 12 2013 06:10 GMT
#1575
Well, 6 hours and 120k gil later we downed turn 4. Got bard boots and a healer belt. What a fucking pain in the ass. Supposedly 4th on server though.
yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 04:14:31
October 13 2013 04:14 GMT
#1576
Just downed turn 1 my first night in Coil. I know it really isn't an achievement, but I haven't really played endgame MMO content while it is still current, so I am happy :D
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
October 13 2013 04:28 GMT
#1577
One thing about thia game is how I don't care about end game content. Like, yeah I want to get my brd to 50 for HMs and etc, but I love leveling my CRP, BTN, CNJ and now my newly acquired WVR.

It's really cool!
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 13 2013 07:30 GMT
#1578
On October 13 2013 13:14 yokohama wrote:
Just downed turn 1 my first night in Coil. I know it really isn't an achievement, but I haven't really played endgame MMO content while it is still current, so I am happy :D


Grats! Turn 2 isn't that much harder. It's just a super elongated fight. Personally think it's the best in the game because the last boss gets chaotic as all hell at 25%.
yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 06:57:19
October 14 2013 06:57 GMT
#1579
On October 13 2013 16:30 Infernal_dream wrote:
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On October 13 2013 13:14 yokohama wrote:
Just downed turn 1 my first night in Coil. I know it really isn't an achievement, but I haven't really played endgame MMO content while it is still current, so I am happy :D


Grats! Turn 2 isn't that much harder. It's just a super elongated fight. Personally think it's the best in the game because the last boss gets chaotic as all hell at 25%.


Thanks! We attempted Turn 2 earlier today and I found it quite difficult. We didn't even get to 25%, but the tanks were taking some insane amounts of damage. We didn't really have a problem with that infection debuff, but one of the tanks would always get hit really hard and die even before we got ADS to 50%.

As far as gear goes I don't think we have that issue, our tanks had more HP than the tanks I see on the tutorial videos, and as a healer I have my relic and full DL (aside from ilvl 60 head/pants and my AF2 chest), and the other healer was in 3 pieces of AF2.

I keep watching the videos and it seems so simple, but looking at my combat logs sometimes the tanks were getting hit for nearly 7000 at times. These were also the same tanks we used for Caduceus, whom we didn't have any tanking problems on.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
nota
Profile Joined May 2010
United States231 Posts
October 14 2013 07:40 GMT
#1580
On October 14 2013 15:57 yokohama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 16:30 Infernal_dream wrote:
On October 13 2013 13:14 yokohama wrote:
Just downed turn 1 my first night in Coil. I know it really isn't an achievement, but I haven't really played endgame MMO content while it is still current, so I am happy :D


Grats! Turn 2 isn't that much harder. It's just a super elongated fight. Personally think it's the best in the game because the last boss gets chaotic as all hell at 25%.


Thanks! We attempted Turn 2 earlier today and I found it quite difficult. We didn't even get to 25%, but the tanks were taking some insane amounts of damage. We didn't really have a problem with that infection debuff, but one of the tanks would always get hit really hard and die even before we got ADS to 50%.

As far as gear goes I don't think we have that issue, our tanks had more HP than the tanks I see on the tutorial videos, and as a healer I have my relic and full DL (aside from ilvl 60 head/pants and my AF2 chest), and the other healer was in 3 pieces of AF2.

I keep watching the videos and it seems so simple, but looking at my combat logs sometimes the tanks were getting hit for nearly 7000 at times. These were also the same tanks we used for Caduceus, whom we didn't have any tanking problems on.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Tank taunt rotation is needed.
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