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Projections
Profile Joined February 2014
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 17:37:06
February 03 2014 17:26 GMT
#881
On February 03 2014 06:21 Unleashing wrote:
TESO is not canon.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/todd-howards-next-game-looking-awesome-dont-expect-news-on-it-anytime-soon/
"They’re making an Elder Scrolls MMO and that is 100% unrelated to [the single-player series]."

Not to mention TESO butchers plenty of lore, so that's a silly debate to go into to begin with.


Nothing in that says it isn't canon. I knew people would Google-fu would mention that statement which is why I already pre-preemptively responded to it. That quote says the single player game and the MMO are separate games from separate studios, nothing in there talks about "canon" or lore specifically. If it does and I am mistaken please correct me. There is a possibility I am blind.

If you actually played other TES games, almost every TES game especially Skyrim has butchered lore at one point or another. There are significantly worst things butchered in single player TES games than in ESO. Since it takes part in a time period it doesn't "butcher" lore it adds to lore. That addition can go against some existing lore, but ZoS has already explained why that takes place.
Projections
Profile Joined February 2014
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 17:31:38
February 03 2014 17:28 GMT
#882
On February 03 2014 14:30 Omnishroud wrote:
I didnt want to link that as it doesnt seem substantial, although i guess his proof is a tweet lol.


I like the fact you tried to +1 a statement that was wrong and had no relevance to the discussion. I know you are trying to dig out of the hole you dug yourself into earlier. But honestly, it is easy to have an intelligent discussion without acting like you are.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 17:45:46
February 03 2014 17:37 GMT
#883
At this point im fucking baffled by you. Do i need to continuously quote myself and you and prove that you cant read / dont read and just type unrelated bullshit and make weird ass claims out of your backside, whilst claiming the other person is doing exactly that?

On February 03 2014 14:30 Omnishroud wrote:
it doesnt seem substantial.


On February 04 2014 02:28 Projections wrote:
I like the fact you tried to +1 a statement.


No comprende.

Heres some clarity if my quote was a little too hard to understand.

Nothing in that says it isn't canon.


I agree. Its very vague.

I knew people would Google-fu


Your google-fu is pretty fucking strong too, considering where that tweet came from.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is TESO canon

First link.

Stop embarrassing yourself, start reading posts properly and stop being so argumentative when other people are only being accepting of things you say and/or discussing them calmly.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Projections
Profile Joined February 2014
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 18:02:51
February 03 2014 17:46 GMT
#884
On February 04 2014 02:37 Omnishroud wrote:

Your google-fu is pretty fucking strong too, considering where that tweet came from.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is TESO canon

First link.


Exactly, my Google-fu is actually good and relevant to the discussion. You agree it is "vague" now after you got called out.

On February 04 2014 02:37 Omnishroud wrote:Stop embarrassing yourself, start reading posts properly and stop being so argumentative when other people are only being accepting of things you say and/or discussing them calmly.


No offense, but I am not the one getting angry and throwing out personal attacks, you are.
Projections
Profile Joined February 2014
United States15 Posts
February 03 2014 17:51 GMT
#885
On February 03 2014 15:29 rezoacken wrote:You're answering your own question Tilorn. Consumers speak with their money.


Consumers should speak with their money, but the problem is they don't. ESO is the best selling gaming (#1 on PC, #2 on XBox One, #4 on PS4) at the moment on Amazon. So publishers will keep pulling these stunts because consumers can be stupid.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 19:52:29
February 03 2014 18:52 GMT
#886
Its like you're seeing different words on your screen or something. Ive quoted you multiple times quoting me and saying it means the opposite. You're just making passive-aggressive posts constantly trying to make me look bad. "I agree its vague now after i got called out" when i was clarifying something you failed to read.

You constantly quote things and reply to posts and claim they mean opposites or completely different things, you dont expect me to question your ability to read after a while?

I make posts and all i get back is incoherent crap that im claiming something completely different. Then you brush off my arguements with passive aggressive bullshit. This has happened across the entire conversation. You're either a troll out to make himself look a fool or just a fool.

Either way i wont carry this on because i could talk about puppies and you'd quote me saying you think cats are cool too. Its just shit-flinging because you're incapable of having a discussion when people are amicable.

@Everyone, sorry, i was trying to talk about TESO for most of this.

Lol, there he goes again. I encourage everyone to read the conversation we had instead of reading his random 1 liners.
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Projections
Profile Joined February 2014
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 19:06:16
February 03 2014 19:05 GMT
#887
On February 04 2014 03:52 Omnishroud wrote:Either way i wont carry this on because i could talk about puppies and you'd quote me saying you think cats are cool too. Its just shit-flinging because you're incapable of having a discussion when people are amicable.

@Everyone, sorry, i was trying to talk about TESO for most of this.


You have been saying "this is my last post" for the last 3-4 posts. You are focusing on me too much instead of the actual argument. Originally, my only point was that you were completely wrong about the trailer, and I told you exactly why including giving you examples of what these beings in the trailer fit in with TES lore. Instead of discussing the trailer you started talking about me and I responded the same, which I probably shouldn't have.

And you still continue to throw out personal attacks instead of having a discussion about what we originally said out to do, because you knew you were wrong about the trailer and the fact that it is "TES". And not "out of place" like you falsely stated.
Projections
Profile Joined February 2014
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 19:32:39
February 03 2014 19:24 GMT
#888
Back on topic, there have been rumors that the Press NDA will be lifted this Friday. Hopefully there is some good info there. Also, if anyone wants a "play by play" of the Arrival trailer the video below runs it down fairly well:

rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 20:15:36
February 03 2014 20:14 GMT
#889
On February 04 2014 02:51 Projections wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 15:29 rezoacken wrote:You're answering your own question Tilorn. Consumers speak with their money.


Consumers should speak with their money, but the problem is they don't. ESO is the best selling gaming (#1 on PC, #2 on XBox One, #4 on PS4) at the moment on Amazon. So publishers will keep pulling these stunts because consumers can be stupid.


Then they are okay with the practices. There's nothing to do, as long as people buy developers/marketing think they are doing the right thing, cant blame them.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8641 Posts
February 03 2014 21:41 GMT
#890
On February 04 2014 05:14 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 02:51 Projections wrote:
On February 03 2014 15:29 rezoacken wrote:You're answering your own question Tilorn. Consumers speak with their money.


Consumers should speak with their money, but the problem is they don't. ESO is the best selling gaming (#1 on PC, #2 on XBox One, #4 on PS4) at the moment on Amazon. So publishers will keep pulling these stunts because consumers can be stupid.


Then they are okay with the practices. There's nothing to do, as long as people buy developers/marketing think they are doing the right thing, cant blame them.


Nah it's just like with elections. People vote and are uninformed or their voted parties won't hold their word, every cries and 4 years later everyone has forgotten. It's an endless circle. Memory of humans seems kinda weak.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
February 03 2014 21:58 GMT
#891
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 22:04:22
February 03 2014 22:03 GMT
#892
On February 04 2014 04:05 Projections wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 03:52 Omnishroud wrote:Either way i wont carry this on because i could talk about puppies and you'd quote me saying you think cats are cool too. Its just shit-flinging because you're incapable of having a discussion when people are amicable.

@Everyone, sorry, i was trying to talk about TESO for most of this.


You have been saying "this is my last post" for the last 3-4 posts. You are focusing on me too much instead of the actual argument. Originally, my only point was that you were completely wrong about the trailer, and I told you exactly why including giving you examples of what these beings in the trailer fit in with TES lore. Instead of discussing the trailer you started talking about me and I responded the same, which I probably shouldn't have.

And you still continue to throw out personal attacks instead of having a discussion about what we originally said out to do, because you knew you were wrong about the trailer and the fact that it is "TES". And not "out of place" like you falsely stated.


Listen. This is completely off topic on this thread and I apologize for that. But you need to reread your entire conversation up there. You're literally attacking strawmen. Maybe you'll learn something about interacting with people in a manner that is called discussing while you're at it.
Projections
Profile Joined February 2014
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 22:52:26
February 03 2014 22:42 GMT
#893
On February 04 2014 07:03 Excludos wrote:Maybe you'll learn something about interacting with people in a manner that is called discussing while you're at it.


I agree, thanks for that comment bro, appreciate it.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 03 2014 23:52 GMT
#894
So some dumb players bought the game. Big deal. Just be smart yourself and stay away from it? Problem solved sir.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 04 2014 03:19 GMT
#895
[image loading]

Wow, so basically instead of having a $60 game with a collector's edition for the most diehard fans, it's effectively a $80 game. If this game were to be priced $80 off the start, it might not have done so well, but people are willing to pay the extra $20 in expectation that they are going to be ahead of everyone that didn't pay it. But now that almost everyone is paying for it, they managed to sell ESO as an $80 game. Apart from the obvious negative side of this, this was pretty well played by the marketing team.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 04 2014 04:03 GMT
#896
On February 04 2014 12:19 Chairman Ray wrote:
[image loading]

Wow, so basically instead of having a $60 game with a collector's edition for the most diehard fans, it's effectively a $80 game. If this game were to be priced $80 off the start, it might not have done so well, but people are willing to pay the extra $20 in expectation that they are going to be ahead of everyone that didn't pay it. But now that almost everyone is paying for it, they managed to sell ESO as an $80 game. Apart from the obvious negative side of this, this was pretty well played by the marketing team.



It actually is pretty smart of them. The imperial edition is *just* 20$ more so people are pre-ordering it. I was debating on it, but then I realized I don't care enough about it to pay 20 extra dollars.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 04:38:10
February 04 2014 04:31 GMT
#897
On February 04 2014 06:58 Body_Shield wrote:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRi-aku1nw


Is that how you play as a mage? Coming from TERA, that looks very unimpressive.

Also it seems that spells got no cooldowns.... I hope that gets resolved...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 04 2014 04:40 GMT
#898
On February 04 2014 12:19 Chairman Ray wrote:
[image loading]

Wow, so basically instead of having a $60 game with a collector's edition for the most diehard fans, it's effectively a $80 game. If this game were to be priced $80 off the start, it might not have done so well, but people are willing to pay the extra $20 in expectation that they are going to be ahead of everyone that didn't pay it. But now that almost everyone is paying for it, they managed to sell ESO as an $80 game. Apart from the obvious negative side of this, this was pretty well played by the marketing team.


I can't facepalm enough at that picture . . .
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 09:50:44
February 04 2014 09:48 GMT
#899
The paying for day 1 DLC race thing is disgusting. Before I just thought ESO would fail. Now I'm hoping it does.

Sets such a bad precedent for MMOs. What's disturbing is reading the ESO forums how many people are defending the decision and saying 20bucks is nothing. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with principle. Zenimax BLATANTLY LIED TO YOU when they said there wouldn't be pay gates and you'd get 100% of the game up front. If they would lie about that, what else would they lie about? What makes you think this is the end of the road for their greedy shit?

I can't help but laugh at people who say the no faction lock won't matter b/c it's only for preorder people. You have to be pretty naive to think the company who would have day 1 racial in the box DLC wouldn't later add such an option to the cash shop... for a price. If they are doing it now it means they don't care about the affect of it on lore/PvP. Therefore, why wouldn't they make money on it later if the community is clearly showing they'll dish out the money for it.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
February 04 2014 10:07 GMT
#900
Why is anyone actually still arguing about this game. It's going to be a gameplay fail, they'll soon run out of the money they made from sales due to marketing, Skyrim popularity and the very high price. It'll go pay2win within the next 12 months and be another meaningless game.
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