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Miragee
8467 Posts
On January 12 2014 00:40 Yuljan wrote: stopped playing after level 7. The game feels very rushed. They should reschedule the relase for 1 year. In its current state the game is gonna be a disaster. That won't help at all. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21492 Posts
How do games manage to get something as basic as combat wrong, Doesn't matter what your game does if the combat feels bad it isn't fun to play. | ||
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Excludos
Norway7990 Posts
On January 12 2014 00:50 Gorsameth wrote: Played a dual wielder for a bit and combat just feels very unresponsive. The press vs hold mouse button system feels clunky and there is almost no feedback if you hit or miss your opponent. How do games manage to get something as basic as combat wrong, Doesn't matter what your game does if the combat feels bad it isn't fun to play. Its very laggy. Thats why it feels unresponsive. Several times I've charged up with a heavy attack only to have nothing happen, and then a second later the guy dies. This is a stress test after all, so I'm not surprised. I wasn't expecting the game to be quite early in its beta period though. They have a lot to fix and polish before this game could be good. | ||
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Excludos
Norway7990 Posts
On January 11 2014 18:02 SlixSC wrote: The good old "its only a beta" - excuse. A beta is essentially a finished product with some bugs that still need to be fixed etc... I've participated in many beta tests and never once was the final version of the game drastically different from the beta, in most cases it was basically the same game minus a few bug fixes. A beta is pretty much just quality assurance, you can't and shouldn't expect a re-design of the game at this stage, even just combat mechanics won't change from now until full release, I can guarantee you that with 100% confidence. A surprising amount of gaming companies out there treat beta's as free limited demos where everything is almost completed. What a beta is is completely up to the developer. Remember dota 2 was in beta for 2 years, and it was nowhere close to what it was at release. Same with minecraft. The big question is what they do after this. How much they redo, fix, how long they take, etc. | ||
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oxxo
988 Posts
On January 12 2014 01:23 Excludos wrote: A surprising amount of gaming companies out there treat beta's as free limited demos where everything is almost completed. What a beta is is completely up to the developer. Remember dota 2 was in beta for 2 years, and it was nowhere close to what it was at release. Same with minecraft. The big question is what they do after this. How much they redo, fix, how long they take, etc. Dota 2 and Minecraft added plenty of features/polish, but the core did not change. This game has serious core issues that can't possibly be fixed in 3 months. If the game was early alpha, sure there might be some hope, but this is pretty bad for something that's going to be released soon. | ||
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Excludos
Norway7990 Posts
On January 12 2014 01:32 oxxo wrote: Dota 2 and Minecraft added plenty of features/polish, but the core did not change. This game has serious core issues that can't possibly be fixed in 3 months. If the game was early alpha, sure there might be some hope, but this is pretty bad for something that's going to be released soon. I disagree. The core (as in game engine) is well in place. What they need is to make the combat and skill system more interesting, and not so damn unresponsive. This can't be fixed in 3 months I agree. I can be fixed in a year or two tho. And I would really suggest that they do spend that time revamping the entire combat system. | ||
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Veliel
18 Posts
If someone stills wants, have fun  | ||
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
On January 12 2014 01:45 Excludos wrote: I disagree. The core (as in game engine) is well in place. What they need is to make the combat and skill system more interesting, and not so damn unresponsive. This can't be fixed in 3 months I agree. I can be fixed in a year or two tho. And I would really suggest that they do spend that time revamping the entire combat system. Planetside 2 was OUT of beta and revamped their engine to run more smoothly on a better variety of computers (Operation: Make Faster Game) so I'm sure the fixes will come. Too many pessimists I say. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 12 2014 01:45 Excludos wrote: I disagree. The core (as in game engine) is well in place. What they need is to make the combat and skill system more interesting, and not so damn unresponsive. This can't be fixed in 3 months I agree. I can be fixed in a year or two tho. And I would really suggest that they do spend that time revamping the entire combat system. I think he meant core as in core gameplay. It's very obvious from the Elder Scrolls Online beta what direction they are going for, and that's where you have the problem: They aren't even trying to make a decent online elder scrolls game, they are trying to make a generic MMO but in first person. They might add a few skills before release, maybe change some areas... but the way you play the game now is how you're going to play the game then, and it's not fun. They need a complete redesign of the core gameplay for it to become fun. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 12 2014 02:02 HackBenjamin wrote: Planetside 2 was OUT of beta and revamped their engine to run more smoothly on a better variety of computers (Operation: Make Faster Game) so I'm sure the fixes will come. Too many pessimists I say. I doubt anyone who is complaining is worried about the "smoothness". The game is boring, not demanding. | ||
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Arkless
Canada1547 Posts
On January 12 2014 01:50 Veliel wrote: DWH66PWW6MF4XXW7LN59 If someone stills wants, have fun damnit, someone musta already grabbed it, invalid otherwise | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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OceanLab
France505 Posts
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Veliel
18 Posts
damnit, someone musta already grabbed it, invalid otherwise Someone was quicker then i guess, don't think they are bound to the account. | ||
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Excludos
Norway7990 Posts
On January 12 2014 02:25 Veliel wrote: Someone was quicker then i guess, don't think they are bound to the account. They're not. | ||
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Excludos
Norway7990 Posts
 guess ill make a new one | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 11 2014 17:14 HackBenjamin wrote: I'm enjoying it. Combat is a little clunky, but it's still beta. Have faith people I don't see them improving the combat, but I like the combat. Idk I think it's because I had such low expectations of this game that I find it a lot of fun. (up until I played the beta I have had a negative view of the game, then played it and was pleasantly surprised.) I think a lot of the hate is people putting their expectations too high and expecting more then they should. | ||
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Arkless
Canada1547 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 12 2014 03:18 NukeD wrote: There are no "physics" and different body part hitboxes in combat arent there? I havent played the beta but from what I seen there arent any. From the limited amount I played, it didn't seem like it. The combat is quite clunky and the hit detection seems pretty terrible, might be lag though. Could be that you do more damage from behind, with the sneak mechanic etc. | ||
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