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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
April 17 2013 00:21 GMT
#201
Ugh that gameplay video was horrendous, looks like everquest or something, really outdated graphics and animations :z
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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
April 17 2013 00:30 GMT
#202
It didn't look that bad. I actually thought it looked quite fun.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 02:29:49
April 17 2013 02:27 GMT
#203
That actually looks shockingly bad, imo...

I don't get why MMO's seem to do nothing but get worse with every iteration.
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 02:32:18
April 17 2013 02:30 GMT
#204
On April 17 2013 09:21 Senx wrote:
Ugh that gameplay video was horrendous, looks like everquest or something, really outdated graphics and animations :z


Graphic has to be kind of bad since they are trying to avoid lag. In a game which you need to target and aim your spells, you cant really have amazing graphic due to frame drops. Atleast that what I think is the reason why

On April 17 2013 08:47 daemir wrote:
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On April 17 2013 07:40 SheaR619 wrote:
On April 17 2013 07:32 Battleaxe wrote:
Friend of mine watched the video yesterday, said he wasn't very impressed..but didn't really elaborate as to what turned him off though other than "it looked similar to wow", which honestly doesn't mean much as most if not all mmos that come out receive this criticism from someone.

Personally I'm still skeptical of the game other then your traditional MMO set in the elder scrolls universe, I'm not expecting much more than that, and if it's better, then great.


From watching the video, I must disagree with your friend. I wont deny that it kinda looks like WoW since ESO is an MMO and WoW is also an MMO. To say that strawberry cake doesnt taste like strawberry is kind of stupid. Some of the thing that I notice from the video is that sneaking/hidden aspect is in the game and the right hand and left hand mechanic seem to also be in the game. Blocking and stamina bar is also a rather unique aspect of the game. Also in the video, there was no designated questing area as far as I know and see. In fact, it seems like a quest seem to point you in a direction and upon doing that quest you will stumple upon some more quest. EX: A dead guy with a letter sticking out of him or something. That alone is enough to distinguish it from WoW. I have yet to play it myself but I must say it doesnt look too bad. I guess people expect to have the freedom of killing NPC and vendors and etc etc.

Also take into consideration that he was lvl 1 the entire 20min and only had 1 ability. If I was playing wow at lvl 1 rogue and going around for 20min spamming sinester strike, even WoW would look boring lol. I think people are missing the main point of the video.


those 2 bolded + the 200 people pvp thing someone mentioned, Guild Wars 2 anyone? I think we know who well the 200 pvp part worked there >_> While GW2 is a fine game, they didn't ship with even a 10th of the promised pvp features and what could be expected from a title that should have pretty much been about the bloody pvp.

Alas, the pve is what gets patches, added content etc and pvp guys can't even make a custom game yet so team A could practice vs team B.

e: okay watched that video clip, totally unimpressed.


Not going to lie, I was also rather unimpress myself. The only thing I liked was the mechanic and the aim mechanic. Which mean that there is going to be less emphasis on tab targeting, atleast that what I hope. If you play TERA then you know what I am probably talking about. He was lvl 1 or 2 the entire 20min so hard for me to say anything else about it. I wish he actually played the game rather then hop around aimlessly.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 17 2013 02:40 GMT
#205
Well, at least it might be a pretty cool Tamriel 2nd Era exploration simulator. I'll wait until it's F2P before trying it out, though. I'm still quite satisfied casually going through Guild Wars 2 at the moment. Hopefully, I can save some time and money if I get into the beat.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
April 17 2013 02:48 GMT
#206
What don't people get about Beta -_-. No wonder their so adamant about preventing leaks. I also find the whole graphics discussion funny. Pretty sure the game isn't going to look like that when its actually done.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 03:18:34
April 17 2013 03:10 GMT
#207
On April 17 2013 11:48 GinDo wrote:
What don't people get about Beta -_-. No wonder their so adamant about preventing leaks. I also find the whole graphics discussion funny. Pretty sure the game isn't going to look like that when its actually done.


Yeah I've always thought that too but it usually doesn't pan out that way lately. Games that look like shit in leaked stuff/beta usually end up shit, especially MMOs.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 17 2013 06:06 GMT
#208
I just skimmed through the video, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the guy didn't show his graphics settings in the game. For all we know, his game automatically set the graphical fidelity to a low or medium setting, and if those settings include a lower shader quality, then yeah, of course the game is going to look like shit.

One thing Bethesda has done better than any other company is provide a huge range of graphics settings for the player. Even without mods, the difference between playing Skyrim at low settings and a tweaked ini Ultra settings Skyrim is enormous.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
April 17 2013 07:05 GMT
#209
wouldnt surprise me if they used the Oblivion engine for this game
GosuNinja
Profile Joined July 2011
United States127 Posts
April 17 2013 07:29 GMT
#210
I understand that people are used to the elder scrolls graphics always being amazing, but having bad graphics doesnt hurt a game in any way imo. There are a ton of great games with shitty graphics, in fact all the best ones IMO (besides sc2) have shit graphics.

I really dont like to see all this hate about the graphics when the gameplay could be amazing. On that note, if the gameplay sucks AND the graphic sucks well... GG
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 10:41:33
April 17 2013 10:37 GMT
#211
On April 17 2013 11:48 GinDo wrote:
What don't people get about Beta -_-. No wonder their so adamant about preventing leaks. I also find the whole graphics discussion funny. Pretty sure the game isn't going to look like that when its actually done.


You know this might have more weight if the last X games that the same was said didn't turn out to be exactly the shit you experienced in beta. At some point, you realize this mantra is as stupid as it sounds.

I don't give a rat's ass personally about graphics, best games I've ever played were in ASCII, but the gameplay in that video could be described as "meh". Caster dude spamming some sort of infinite firebolt from his staff, didn't look like he had to aim much or there was some heroic level aim assist included. Looked more like he selected a target and then it was autoattack WoW-style. Animations were clunky, movement looked as fluid as it is in Skyrim, which means it's not.

Looked very much like another company smelling (late) the money in MMOs and hops in with a generic shit game with existing brand names pasted on top of it.
Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
April 17 2013 20:25 GMT
#212
On April 17 2013 19:37 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 11:48 GinDo wrote:
What don't people get about Beta -_-. No wonder their so adamant about preventing leaks. I also find the whole graphics discussion funny. Pretty sure the game isn't going to look like that when its actually done.


You know this might have more weight if the last X games that the same was said didn't turn out to be exactly the shit you experienced in beta. At some point, you realize this mantra is as stupid as it sounds.



This is so true. From my experience as a game developer, you cannot expect much different from a game that is in beta to release. Generally the only changes that really get made from an open beta to release is content and bug fixes. The engine will not be changed. Open beta nowadays is really just tentative release.

Alpha to beta however, is still very different. In the alpha stage, everything is up to change.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 17 2013 22:30 GMT
#213
Aye, but public, closed or even friend&family betas nowadays are more like PR for a soon-to-be-released game rather than actual testing. I'm sure testing is part of it, but marketing seems to have grown to be the major role. Hell, some games even sell beta access, so how's that not a launch 0.9 :\
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
April 17 2013 22:46 GMT
#214
*Sigh* It's always the same story all over again.
"It's just an alpha, it's not even a game yet". "It's just a closed beta, they gonna fix stuff". "This is OBT, that's what it's for, wait for release". "Game just got released, they WILL fix stuff".

But usually, it's never like that. FF14 (oringinal one) was a complete **** during alphas, betas and release was the same. SWTOR was lame during all stages and it went F2P in like 8 months, depsite it's 200m budget.

Last game I tested since alphas/focus groups was Tera. And while they changed a lot of stuff, in its core it's still the same thing after 2 years since release.

But I'll still hope for a decent mmo anyway. I actually wanted to play it, even though I prefer korean mmos to western ones.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 05:06:28
April 28 2013 05:06 GMT
#215
Didn't see the leaked video myself as all the links were taken down, but this guy seemed pretty rational about it

blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 20:39:56
May 28 2013 20:39 GMT
#216
new video: http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/mzrc2w/the-elder-scrolls-online-bringing-the-scrolls-to-mmo

Wow I have to say they are using skyrim combat in an mmo is fucking badass :D. The combat looks really good ^^
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Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
May 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#217
Looks pretty badass tbh. Don't have any super expectations, but this is the first MMO to come out that I'm actually somewhat excited about.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 21:03:35
May 28 2013 20:59 GMT
#218
Oh, interesting that they managed to get the first-person combat animations finished. The first-person combat that was shown in the leaked video a month back wasn't very impressive at all, but probably because it was obvious that there were a lot of placeholders involved.

Tbh, I'm not sure if Skyrim's first-person combat is a good thing to emulate. Even though I found the combat is better than that of Morrowind or Oblivion, there are some better implementations of first-person melee combat in other games outside of the Elder Scrolls franchise.

And I'm also worried about how the art direction in certain regions of ESO may affect those of future real Elder Scrolls games. On one hand, they could always retcon whatever was made in ESO, but on the other hand, the discrepancy will always be bothersome, especially since there are some lore enthusiasts who are unhappy that Bethesda retconned Cyrodil from being a jungle that was described in some early lore books to being a standard European fantasy forest setting in Oblivion.
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dashiz
Profile Joined August 2010
Costa Rica193 Posts
June 12 2013 02:34 GMT
#219
So it started! they are finally giving out invites for the beta!
Sadly when I checked my mail, found a god damn notification of the trailer that any fan would of already seen .____.

If anyone gets a unwanted invite I'm free to test it up
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
June 12 2013 06:08 GMT
#220
On June 12 2013 11:34 dashiz wrote:
So it started! they are finally giving out invites for the beta!
Sadly when I checked my mail, found a god damn notification of the trailer that any fan would of already seen .____.

If anyone gets a unwanted invite I'm free to test it up


saw the announcement on facebook... opened email...

"From Elder Scrolls Online" woooooot
"Footage from E3" DAMNIT!!!!!! i already watched it! le sad face.
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