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On August 01 2012 13:19 lemonslol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 13:10 Cel.erity wrote:On August 01 2012 13:06 lemonslol wrote: To you guys that spend money on the game, how far would say.. 500 tokens get me? Or better yet do people only use tokens to buy boosters? It seems kind of a waste 30 tokens for 1 card in a booster. If you only have 500tk, it's probably best if you just buy bronze prizes after every match. 2tk per bronze = 250 accessories, which is roughly 1 DR worth. But if you don't have a ton of time to grind, then you may prefer to just splurge on ep3-4 faction boosters right away to make the grinding more efficient. I still advocate investing $10 and spending 500 on boosters and 500 on bronzes. Even if the boosters only give you one card? also how do those faction boosters make grinding more effcient?
Making your deck better means you grind faster, same as in any MMO. The starter decks are much, much weaker than a starter + like 5-6 spells from boosters. Probably twice as easy to grind with the early boost.
A booster only gives one card, but those cards require (at minimum) 3 accessories, and you'll pull some uncommons which are 10-20 accessories. If you're really lucky, a rare or double rare. They're obviously not good value, but they make your deck powerful quickly. Once you have a decent deck, you won't ever need to buy them again since you can grind for what you need.
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On August 01 2012 13:19 lemonslol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 13:10 Cel.erity wrote:On August 01 2012 13:06 lemonslol wrote: To you guys that spend money on the game, how far would say.. 500 tokens get me? Or better yet do people only use tokens to buy boosters? It seems kind of a waste 30 tokens for 1 card in a booster. If you only have 500tk, it's probably best if you just buy bronze prizes after every match. 2tk per bronze = 250 accessories, which is roughly 1 DR worth. But if you don't have a ton of time to grind, then you may prefer to just splurge on ep3-4 faction boosters right away to make the grinding more efficient. I still advocate investing $10 and spending 500 on boosters and 500 on bronzes. Even if the boosters only give you one card? also how do those faction boosters make grinding more effcient? The probability of getting good cards out of boosters pack is very low, but still, the "crappy" cards you get are most of the time a component for crafting a more powerful and efficient in dungeon grinding card. I think the real question is how do want to run your deck? In my opinion, buffing, kana (the card, vivid world of kana allow you to get more card on your field, though it's a bit luck based and limits you to a single fraction) deck makes dungion girnding a trivial task, but I've heard other type of deck works as well. If I were you, I would spend some tokens on ex1 crux booster to get x2 kana asap and spend others on bronze prizes, then grind for a more powerful follower or buffing spell. Well, that's what I did when I started the game 
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On August 01 2012 14:11 boon2537 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 13:19 lemonslol wrote:On August 01 2012 13:10 Cel.erity wrote:On August 01 2012 13:06 lemonslol wrote: To you guys that spend money on the game, how far would say.. 500 tokens get me? Or better yet do people only use tokens to buy boosters? It seems kind of a waste 30 tokens for 1 card in a booster. If you only have 500tk, it's probably best if you just buy bronze prizes after every match. 2tk per bronze = 250 accessories, which is roughly 1 DR worth. But if you don't have a ton of time to grind, then you may prefer to just splurge on ep3-4 faction boosters right away to make the grinding more efficient. I still advocate investing $10 and spending 500 on boosters and 500 on bronzes. Even if the boosters only give you one card? also how do those faction boosters make grinding more effcient? The probability of getting good cards out of boosters pack is very low, but still, the "crappy" cards you get are most of the time a component for crafting a more powerful and efficient in dungeon grinding card. I think the real question is how do want to run your deck? In my opinion, buffing, kana (the card, vivid world of kana allow you to get more card on your field, though it's a bit luck based and limits you to a single fraction) deck makes dungion girnding a trivial task, but I've heard other type of deck works as well. If I were you, I would spend some tokens on ex1 crux booster to get x2 kana asap and spend others on bronze prizes, then grind for a more powerful follower or buffing spell. Well, that's what I did when I started the game 
That's only a good idea if they're playing Crux though. I also still feel that Kana is not very good in Crux grinding decks; most Crux players with higher DP decks don't run them. If you put that farm into Supply Transfers and better followers instead, you'll have a much easier time.
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On August 01 2012 14:31 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 14:11 boon2537 wrote:On August 01 2012 13:19 lemonslol wrote:On August 01 2012 13:10 Cel.erity wrote:On August 01 2012 13:06 lemonslol wrote: To you guys that spend money on the game, how far would say.. 500 tokens get me? Or better yet do people only use tokens to buy boosters? It seems kind of a waste 30 tokens for 1 card in a booster. If you only have 500tk, it's probably best if you just buy bronze prizes after every match. 2tk per bronze = 250 accessories, which is roughly 1 DR worth. But if you don't have a ton of time to grind, then you may prefer to just splurge on ep3-4 faction boosters right away to make the grinding more efficient. I still advocate investing $10 and spending 500 on boosters and 500 on bronzes. Even if the boosters only give you one card? also how do those faction boosters make grinding more effcient? The probability of getting good cards out of boosters pack is very low, but still, the "crappy" cards you get are most of the time a component for crafting a more powerful and efficient in dungeon grinding card. I think the real question is how do want to run your deck? In my opinion, buffing, kana (the card, vivid world of kana allow you to get more card on your field, though it's a bit luck based and limits you to a single fraction) deck makes dungion girnding a trivial task, but I've heard other type of deck works as well. If I were you, I would spend some tokens on ex1 crux booster to get x2 kana asap and spend others on bronze prizes, then grind for a more powerful follower or buffing spell. Well, that's what I did when I started the game  That's only a good idea if they're playing Crux though. I also still feel that Kana is not very good in Crux grinding decks; most Crux players with higher DP decks don't run them. If you put that farm into Supply Transfers and better followers instead, you'll have a much easier time. Hm, you're right. Somehow I assume that almost everyone starts with crux and I guess I am a bit bias in my old way lol So, lemonslol, listen to this guy, he knows what he's talking about.
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I'm only missing 4 blues to get my first supply transfer @_@ also, cards I've been told to go for in chat (all crux):
some kind of removal (unionize targets size 3+ / servant of clarice targets random) good buffs (education results, meadow leisure, 1-2 fast forward) you can get 2 seeker director by crafting 1 and doing the quest. with buffs it's pretty strong!
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On August 01 2012 17:27 floi wrote: I'm only missing 4 blues to get my first supply transfer @_@ also, cards I've been told to go for in chat (all crux):
some kind of removal (unionize targets size 3+ / servant of clarice targets random) good buffs (education results, meadow leisure, 1-2 fast forward) you can get 2 seeker director by crafting 1 and doing the quest. with buffs it's pretty strong!
Iirc you get a Seeker Luthera from the quests as well and shes pretty decent.
Also Knight Prea with her 7 attack is my favourite 2 size and I got 3 of those on my deck.
I wouldn't rush any of the 33 point/50 point cards without thinking it through, I was pretty disappointed of how poorly the followers performed for me in ladder compared to other factions 33 pointers. Sometimes I get the ball rolling with Crux Nemesis Luthica and she can do some serious damage before enemy counters it with some spell but Vanguard Knight just turned pretty much useless outside getting Kana'd and got knocked out of my 200-250 deck, also Child Sigma synergy with Vanguard Knight is so bad. Crux Knight Sinclair at least can take a couple hits and buff but not sure about her yet either. Of course they all still kick ass in dungeons.
Still got 2 Kana's even though size of my followers keeps getting smaller and I've mixed in some x-faction cards. Just don't feel like giving up on them.
Also made myself 3x Sword Girls Luthica's other day, they seem decent with couple higher attack followers on the field with them. Anyway I've been tempted to either try a complete mixed factions deck or swarm Crux but would have to farm so much. Also considering saving for Hero Luthica so I could drop Child Sigma and maybe Kana's too and go for that lower size deck.
Not sure why I even quoted you as that turned out to be me thinking out loud.
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I was actually looking at Sinclair as my first bigger follower, because she should synergize well with Fast Forward and Servant of Clarice (despite the latter not being Crux, I think). If there's enough knights Sentry's Testemony might also work well with the grave theme, but I'm not sure.
As I want to get into pvp as fast as possible - do you think that Snowball or Swarm is better for Crux there? The first gets beaten by removal and swarm gets beaten by mass recall, so I really don't kwow which way to go... :|
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On August 01 2012 19:02 floi wrote: I was actually looking at Sinclair as my first bigger follower, because she should synergize well with Fast Forward and Servant of Clarice (despite the latter not being Crux, I think). If there's enough knights Sentry's Testemony might also work well with the grave theme, but I'm not sure.
As I want to get into pvp as fast as possible - do you think that Snowball or Swarm is better for Crux there? The first gets beaten by removal and swarm gets beaten by mass recall, so I really don't kwow which way to go... :|
You're going to want someone else's opinion as I got a pretty poor idea of the game still even though I seem to hover between rank 50 and EX on ladders. But I really still don't have actual plan or direction where I want to take my deck.
My snowballing however often if not always seems to either get removed or even used against me, and the couple matches I've played vs swarm Crux I lost.
Anyway here's my current ladder deck, gets destroyed by most people with well thought out decks.
Knight Marksman and Knight Supplier are there mostly for Kana and as a last resort if I got only a few life left and can afford to play such a high size.
Coin Girl doesn't really live up to her potential as I don't have many ways to get her stamina up so she gets one shotted too often but still worth having around for the cheap cost.
And not made up my mind with what removal/debuff spells I want to have either.
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On August 01 2012 19:02 floi wrote: I was actually looking at Sinclair as my first bigger follower, because she should synergize well with Fast Forward and Servant of Clarice (despite the latter not being Crux, I think). If there's enough knights Sentry's Testemony might also work well with the grave theme, but I'm not sure.
As I want to get into pvp as fast as possible - do you think that Snowball or Swarm is better for Crux there? The first gets beaten by removal and swarm gets beaten by mass recall, so I really don't kwow which way to go... :|
I'm not sure if swarm is viable anymore, but it depends on the DP. There are too many cards now which just get out of control too quickly, and swarm has never been good against that. Also, you will lose 100% of your games vs stall decks.
The only good swarm deck I've seen lately is the Passcode deck with either 1's or 2's; it was good for the 250DP ladder, but it definitely isn't pure Crux. And again, it'll start to lose a lot when you get to higher DP.
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Ok, so I guess I'll stick to big followers and buffs...
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I actually run a 100% stall deck and fear swarms more than anything (well except like Child Sigma and Esprit). Clarice Passcode/Hot Item T_T.
But then again my stall deck is very strange. I'd be interested to learn what a more conventional stall deck is like. Mine is extremely hit-or-miss. That said, it's insanely consistent, almost to the point where I can tell who's going to win at the character screen.
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how does card exchange for materials work? How do I know what cards give what materials?
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On August 03 2012 14:31 nosliw wrote: how does card exchange for materials work? How do I know what cards give what materials?
I wouldn't do it if I were you. Mats are random, it gives about half of what you put into it, though I think the ratios are a little better for DRs and character cards. Exchanging character cards is a decent way to turn swords into season 2 materials.
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Thoughts on the new Olympic followers?
I think Table Tennis Iri looks ridiculous
And the art for Badminton Sita ;_;
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Feels like they're not worth the amount of effort it takes to make them but then again they don't cost ores/accessories and I have nothing better to craft at the moment. Still have a while before I have to choose which to go for but at the moment probably Iri.
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Well, I've kinda gone back to Magic...
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I still play while watching stuff, or playing another slow-paced game.
Also I played in that recent ladder just to get top100 for the special card. Basically lost all my matches in the first day, then copied an easy to make deck that beat me hard :D
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been working on a list, got http://goo.gl/FOnsh so far (the sanctuary decks annoy me, and I wanted some resilience)
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On October 07 2012 09:17 akisa wrote:been working on a list, got http://goo.gl/FOnsh so far (the sanctuary decks annoy me, and I wanted some resilience)
In general I feel like the Sword Girls followers are a 3+ or nothing type of thing. I tried using 2 Sitas in my ladder deck awhile back, but you end up not getting enough of an effect because when one gets debuffed/dies the entire chain is broken. Keep in mind they summon each other.
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