Be warned, Nvr rolled a druid on our realm and now he just misses his main druid on his old realm, and will probably xfer him over and have two 85 druids in the guild haha.

You might make the same mistake! If you don't mind levelling, by all means go for it, there's plenty of people to level along with at this point.

GeedrAhsc

United States97 Posts

April 03 2012 18:22 GMT

#165

I think I might just go ahead and reroll =D
This sounds like a lot of fun.

Also, I have an extra scroll, so if anyone wants a res, just pm me =D

Masq

Canada1792 Posts

April 03 2012 18:46 GMT

#166

Yeah, as Toren mentioned we have a surplus of priests at the moment. Many are still leveling at the moment, but by the end of next week we should have a good idea of what our needs are and what we specifically need. At the moment tanks and caster DPS (mage/warlock) is looking like our weakest points.

We'll schedule a meeting next week (on voicechat) to discuss our plans and goals openly.

Masq

Canada1792 Posts

April 03 2012 18:50 GMT

#167

Also regarding all the PM requests for scrolls, I'll have them all sent out when the servers come back up from maintenance.

PHILtheTANK

United States1834 Posts

April 03 2012 19:15 GMT

#168

My god I forgot how much I hate server maintenance....

Torenhire

United States11681 Posts

April 03 2012 19:16 GMT

#169

I would actually argue that we're more in need of heals? I feel like all of our priests went crazy and went shadow. Haha. Or at least all the 85s atm.

We could use more non-pally (BIASED LOL, all your loots belong to me) melee DPS as well, we have a bunch of DKs levelling up so rogues/hunters wouldn't be bad either....though Masq hates hunters hehe.

I think we have four tanks that I know of, assuming none of our DKs go tank spec, Nvr is gearing up, Ouch is a prot pally, I have a prot set, and Spacek if off-spec tank...more main spec tanks would be good (myself and Space are main spec DPS) though.

I won't be here next weekend (the weekend of the 13th) so I won't be able to do anything then - obviously feel free to go without me haha, but there is your heads up. Like I said a few posts back, I'd like to get people at LEAST LFR ready by the end of this week so we can get people in raid-ready gear by sometime next weekend...I was gonna see what interest I could get in people running BH/BOT at the end of this week, maybe Saturday evening or something...I dunno what your plans for raiding and whatnot is, so I don't wanna start taking people on runs if you already had plans, haha.

Clemz

United States70 Posts

April 03 2012 19:20 GMT

#170

Well if there's anything specific you guys want leveled let me know, I'll level just about anything.

mistermichael

United States42 Posts

April 03 2012 19:29 GMT

#171

are you guys planning to raid endgame by any chance? if so I might transfer over to play with you guys. I'm 12/12 in cata, I stopped playing when firelands came out.

Torenhire

United States11681 Posts

April 03 2012 19:36 GMT

#172

Clemz play what you want, we'll make use with what we've got!

mistermichael we are probably going to, yes...but we're nowhere near ready for the raids and stuff yet, just getting into entry level raids probably mid-next week. I guess Masq is the GM and he can make that call but we traded PMs before I server changed and he seemed to suggest we'd be doing raiding at a decent level at some point in time.

Masq

Canada1792 Posts

April 03 2012 19:38 GMT

#173

Regarding our tanking situation, I don't really consider offspecs as offical "tanks", they're nice to have and can help in a pinch, but aren't really to be relied upon. Also tanks are the most gear reliant classes so I'd strongly prefer "dedicated" tanks.

For most content we won't actually require many healers at all. It's safe to assume most 10man content can be completed with 2 competent healers. If a specific fight requires additional healing we could use offspec classes to cover (Shadow->Disc/Holy, Enh/Ele->Resto, Ret->Holy). I think we're sitting at a minimum of 6 healers right now, which is why I think our healing core is fine for the time being.

EDIT: and regarding LFR, you can literally do LFR Dragonsoul within 1hour of hitting level 85. Just run to the auction house and buy items with apporiate level gear that you can wear. Once you boost your ilvl (regardless if you'll use the items or not) to 372 you can queue for LFR, and the system is very dumbed down for pugs.

mistermichael

United States42 Posts

April 03 2012 19:42 GMT

#174

Torenhire - ah quick respond, I know you told Clemz to play whatever, but do we need more dps or heals? I have a resto shammy/priest and a rogue/warlock/warrior ready for transfer =[ and don't know which one to pick haha.

Edit: So judging by Masq's post, we need dps/main tanks?

spacek

United States213 Posts

April 03 2012 19:43 GMT

#175

i have no idea if this is set in stone or not, but at the meeting we may want to bring up 10m vs 25m

Torenhire

United States11681 Posts

April 03 2012 19:44 GMT

#176

I am planning to main spec tank, I'm only missing a few pieces before I've got a full set. I haven't looked up avoidance stats and whatnot for a real tank but I'm going to swap once I get these last few holes in my gear filled...mainly my shield, I haven't seen a prot shield drop yet so no tanking for me just yet.

Go by what Masq says, he's in charge haha. I only said we're kinda low on healers because we never seem to be able to get one when online, but that might just be bad luck or people not 85 yet :p

mistermichael

United States42 Posts

April 03 2012 19:48 GMT

#177

Alright Masq, tell me what roles you need and I shall play!

Masq

Canada1792 Posts

April 03 2012 19:58 GMT

#178

On April 04 2012 04:43 spacek wrote:
i have no idea if this is set in stone or not, but at the meeting we may want to bring up 10m vs 25m

It'll be discussed for sure.

My personal opinion is that 25M is the ideal, but requires a very specific setup, group mentality, and guild size. To find 25 high quality players is extremely difficult, and its much easier to have two highly successful 10mans, than to have a decent 25man.

Another thing we'll have to consider is what the guild demographic is. We can't force casual players to play at a more competitive level or hardcores to play at a casual level. I think 25mans are more suited for the hardcore environment, whereas 10mans allow for both the hardcore environment or casual environment.

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25 Mans
- Require a minimum of 30-35 players (surplus of backup/bench players)
- Longer learning curve (due to player swapping, absent players, wider gear distribution)
- Much harder to pinpoint raid issues/player performance (requires log scanning)

10 Man
- Requires ~11 players
- Quickest learning curve, more individual raidtime (more direct impact on the fight)
- Easier to organize
- Less "bench" players

Torenhire

United States11681 Posts

April 03 2012 20:02 GMT

#179

If my input qualifies for anything, I found that running two 10mans is far easier than one 25man. I'm down for whatever either way. Personally I like running a 10man better for the reasons you stated as a con for 25man, you can easily see who is fucking up and how to fix it, whether it's replacing them or helping them with gear/spec or whatever.

I know they changed it a lot since wrath, how do 25s stack up to 10s? Do you need better gear to run the 25s, or is it just a "more people" version of the 10man?