On October 08 2012 12:44 BadAssJ wrote: eh wc3 was just dismal in my opinion... Dota is the real game behind it
Dota is a mod created by a noob who found it too hard to play 1v1 , so he created that shit to make himself feel like hot shit , and then all the other trash wc3 players played it.
XD , lets face it I hate dota because I just cant understand why the fuck would anyone double click on the wc3 application to ditch the best rts game ever to be created and play some custom game.
but for real now , as long as you dont double click wc3 , play whatever shit moba game you wanna play , hell I play tons of HON
On October 08 2012 12:16 Release wrote: Any good undead player makes me feel like UD is bullshit race (Coil, Nova, gg) but anyone outside of Th000, Ted, Happy(RIP), Lucifer, and yfz? makes me feel like undead is shit.
*WFZ Also, haven't seen TH000 play much UD lately ... he mostly does HU/NE these days.
I'm kind of confused as to WFZ's success lately, actually. Watching his games, he doesn't seem to have as strong micro as Lucifer, TeD, or Believe (before the military ate him), but he has a winning record against Fly afaik and did take a game off Lyn recently (due to some very nice creepjacking, though ofc, Lyn stomped his ass the next two games).
In other news, Reprisal's been doing so well recently. I'd initially put down his recent success in ZOTAC to FoCuS no longer playing due to the Sonik drama, but he 2-0'd Lawliet and Lucifer and 2-1'd Lucifer to first place in the IEF quals.
I saw th000, as undead, beat Yumiko after losing both his lich and DK to militia. Also, he beat infi in that silly random-race final.
TH000's off-race is good, but let's not pretend his UD is wtf amazing. I know the game you're talking about, but Yumiko's really not that great vs. UD tbh, and that was more TH000 doing his typical smart play-from-behind-into-gg shenanigans than his UD being that great. (Aka TH000 being TH000, less TH000 having great UD. Lucifer incidentally pwns Yumiko most of the time without losing his heroes to Yumi's ridiculous surrounds.) And, well, that silly random-race final.
TH000's NE is really good though; too bad he only plays one MU.
Ok, we're gunna attempt to go ahead and make a TeamLiquid clan on EU server on Bnet.
My name on there is StoryOfLife and I'll be hanging out in channel: "Teamliquid" pretty much all day everyday. Stop by and if we get enough players in there at once we can make the clan.
If people want to post time of day and or days of the week that they are free then maybe we can brainstorm a good time for everyone to get together to make the clan it'd be great. Try to post your times in CET time to make it easier to coordinate!
On October 11 2012 11:33 TheWorldToCome wrote: Ok, we're gunna attempt to go ahead and make a TeamLiquid clan on EU server on Bnet.
My name on there is StoryOfLife and I'll be hanging out in channel: "Teamliquid" pretty much all day everyday. Stop by and if we get enough players in there at once we can make the clan.
If people want to post time of day and or days of the week that they are free then maybe we can brainstorm a good time for everyone to get together to make the clan it'd be great. Try to post your times in CET time to make it easier to coordinate!
Hey man ! thanks a bunch , I'll be there in about 8-10 hours once I am done with work :D
Is anybody watching the replays from the WFDC 2v2 tournament ?
Just when I thought 2v2s can never evolve or change , Th000 & Yumiko come up with this insane style of playing as Hu/Hu vs anything..... every time I watch one of those games I am left speechless :O
On October 18 2012 23:09 Tchado wrote: Is anybody watching the replays from the WFDC 2v2 tournament ?
Just when I thought 2v2s can never evolve or change , Th000 & Yumiko come up with this insane style of playing as Hu/Hu vs anything..... every time I watch one of those games I am left speechless :O
Yupppp. Those two are amazing. I haven't seen the apparently uber-epic TH000/Yumiko vs. Fly/TeD(!!!!!!) series yet though. So excited to go through the reps when I finally have time. It'll be one of the few instances when those two are actually playing pros who can micro as well as them if not out-micro them. :D
In 2v2, at least one human needs to get Blood mage at tier two. Constant mana drain is so effective and with a paladin as well...
th000 is a god. Yumiko not quite as good. Glad to see that TEDDYBEAR is back. Fly is still awesome..
One thing i have noticed is that ever since they nerfed the tower repair rate, humans have really been struggling in all matchups. Even th000 is struggling.
TH000 is god at micro, macro, strategy ... everything on the goddamn earth. Yumiko is, however, god at surrounds and being a supportive teammate.
TH000 is struggling against maybe only Lyn and Fly these days, and sometimes in the HU MU (which he race-picks NE in anyways, so n/a). His last 10 series are like 9-1, with a 0-3 loss to Lyn, but it is Lyn after all, and they trade series pretty often anyways.
I would love to see another 2v2 tournament of this caliber soon , lets face it , if Th000 & Yumiko team up again all the other teams/pro need to brainstorm like hell to figure out a counter to this new style , it's so fucking refreshing to see something like this during these times in wc3 , I saw all the replays and it is mind boggling what these 2 can do , abuse expos , yumiko killing off a t2 orc with mass footmen harass while th000 is raping the other 2 , tech switching at the perfect time , new timing attacks...the amount of variations they can add to this style is limitless.
On October 19 2012 14:00 babylon wrote: TH000 is god at micro, macro, strategy ... everything on the goddamn earth. Yumiko is, however, god at surrounds and being a supportive teammate.
TH000 is struggling against maybe only Lyn and Fly these days, and sometimes in the HU MU (which he race-picks NE in anyways, so n/a). His last 10 series are like 9-1, with a 0-3 loss to Lyn, but it is Lyn after all, and they trade series pretty often anyways.
I think Th000 simply dislikes the HU mirror, I read that back in 2010 in some interview , I don't believe he can't play the match up.
Edit : Btw should we send ToD & Grubby personal messages to maybe comment every once and a while here ? I would love hear some of their analysis on the games and players we discuss here , thread owner any thoughts ?
th000 did lose a bo5 to Lucifer not too long ago, something rather unexpected.
And regarding human mirror, Chinese humans tend to avoid it. It may have something to do with Sky playing the opening match against Yaws in a human mirror in Chengdu @ wcg 2009 and losing it. I think i've seen one Sky vs Infi hu mirror but that's about it for chinese humans.
On October 20 2012 11:24 Release wrote: th000 did lose a bo5 to Lucifer not too long ago, something rather unexpected.
And regarding human mirror, Chinese humans tend to avoid it. It may have something to do with Sky playing the opening match against Yaws in a human mirror in Chengdu @ wcg 2009 and losing it. I think i've seen one Sky vs Infi hu mirror but that's about it for chinese humans.
So what ? Yaws literally raped Infi the year before it , I dont think it has to do with that certain incident and whatever meaning that lose meant.
Maybe collectively as a community they dont enjoy the MU ? I have no idea.
repair rate was only nerfed for towers that were under construction, pretty much only affected hu vs orc, had nothing to do with vs fiends and they buffed rifles and knights
Ok guys, seriously thinking of just settling with Iccup, since it is more of a international solution compared to other clients~ And Garena is too confusing and has limits
Edit: Oh man, they stream with "shadows" settings set ot "off"? Horrible...
I didn't even notice, hahaha! Too entranced by TH000 vs. Lucifer on TM. Both of those are so good at long management games!
Lyn vs. Infi seems to be playing on another stage: http://match.replays.net/Live/530,2 (if that doesn't work, go to the original link I posted and click on the drop-down box in the top-right hand corner of the video screen and select "War3")
So there was a thread open about why sc2 is getting owned by Dota and LoL on the casual level , and they posted a few things about Warcraft 3, and then some dude there posted this video.
EPT
