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On February 16 2012 10:07 Euronyme wrote:
I'm just about to buy this game.. Just one thing I have to ask first. From the thread it seems like a lot of things are.. just random BS.
"Oh crap, my king died and I lost fucking EVERYTHING".
"Oh crap, 50 000 mongoloids invaded me after I spent hours building up an empire"
Is this basically how it is? Just build shit up and pray that chance is on your side?
It's a game about dynasties, not about conquering more or less.
The entire point of the game is to make your dynasty live on through the ages and rise in power. It's a game of small scale politics, essentially. Instead of starting as Ethiopia and conquering Europe, you start as a Count in a castle and work your way up to King, vassalize everyone, and unite Great Britain or something.
I mean yeah, you can go full conquer mode as I'm sure plenty will show in this thread. However, the main point of the game is making your dynasty last throughout the ages -- and the real challenge is starting as a low position and working up.
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Here's my Scotland so far, got a series of Kings who kept getting assassinated/dying young so the revolts were just all over the place and I was basically in civil war for a few decades but it's finally stabilized and I'm pushing south into England (which is a clusterfuck right now as you can see, split between Denmark/Wales/Norway and a few smaller dutchies). So long as my ruler lives on I'm in a pretty good position but as soon as he dies it's going to be complete civil war again lol. At the very end of the last one I literally had to have every single one of my dukes imprisoned u_u
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Is there any nation / province that's easy to maintain, and good for newbies? I'm thinking Castille in EU3.
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On February 16 2012 21:03 Euronyme wrote:
Is there any nation / province that's easy to maintain, and good for newbies? I'm thinking Castille in EU3.
Bohemia is actually pretty easy if you want it to be easy. You start in the HRE which gives you a lot of safety, you also dont have too many provinces at the start and only like 2 or 3 vassals so you are safe from them revolting.
Bohemia is definately the best nation I played so far when you want to learn the basics of Province building and vassal relations.
And if you want the game to be harder you can always try to become independent from the HRE like I did.
My next project will be rebuilding the Habsburg dynasty after I finished my Bohemia game 
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I actually recommend taking a smaller role, like a Duke or something before you take a King so you can get used to everything.
Also, do that tutorial. It's really good.
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usually i've just taken an hour or two to get myself acquainted with the ui of paradox games before unpausing and that's been good enough but now some incongruities with different ui screens and fx. the inability to reset character search to any&both make the upper left screen area a lot clunkier to use than it should be. i don't want to waste my CK2 apm >=(
other than that it works unexpectedly well despite being a paradox game on release week. liking it so far.
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On February 16 2012 21:17 Candadar wrote:
I actually recommend taking a smaller role, like a Duke or something before you take a King so you can get used to everything.
Also, do that tutorial. It's really good.
that's another good thing about bohemia. You start of as a duke but if you want you can form a kingdom too
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Holy crap that's a lot of information to process. Anyone who wanna set up an online game and explore?
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On February 16 2012 22:08 Euronyme wrote:Holy crap that's a lot of information to process. Anyone who wanna set up an online game and explore?
we could, if we can work out how it works 
or we make a Skype/TS session where someone explains the game
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Is anyone else having problems playing this online? It seems to desynch, and it's really bad. You get completely alternate games from the other people playing, so something that's happening on your screen wont happen on your friends.
Does anyone know what causes this and if there's a fix?
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A lot of other people seem to be having that problem too. I think I will chalk it up to being a recently released Paradox game. I assume the first patch won't be too far off.
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ok i have a question. when a superior of mine uses his authority to raise a navy from me for him, i have to pay for the upkeep?
That totally ended my island game after 20 mins cause i went bankrupt, lol.
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On February 17 2012 04:54 beef42 wrote:
A lot of other people seem to be having that problem too. I think I will chalk it up to being a recently released Paradox game. I assume the first patch won't be too far off.
I don't know.. There was the same thing in EU3, but afaik the game just paused so that everyone could resync again. This game just puts you in two different single players where you have no real contact with eachother.
Edit. Has anyone made it work without going through hamachi?
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i have some questions for my ongoing munster game, if someone could help me please, the manual is so bad.
i have a de jure claim on a province, i go to war and win, is there a way to make the land my own instead of just getting a forever disgruntled vasall?
some of my cities dont pay taxes, is that because i imprisoned the leader of that province?
And how do i expand my own land in general? only by revoking titles and getting huge opinion hits?
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after playing Sengoku, i just have no hopes for this game. it was the worst paradox release ever.
maybe will try it but i really have no hopes on this.
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On February 17 2012 08:46 LaNague wrote:
i have some questions for my ongoing munster game, if someone could help me please, the manual is so bad.
i have a de jure claim on a province, i go to war and win, is there a way to make the land my own instead of just getting a forever disgruntled vasall?
some of my cities dont pay taxes, is that because i imprisoned the leader of that province?
And how do i expand my own land in general? only by revoking titles and getting huge opinion hits?
IMO the easiest way to deal with pissed-off vassals from de jure claims is to let them revolt, then beat them down, imprison them and revoke their title free of charge, since they're now a traitor. If they never revolt you don't have a problem.
There are three types of holdings; cities, castles and churches. Cities and churches must be ruled by a burgher or priest vassal. Burghers pay tax to their liege (you) based on the city tax law (45% at max). You can see an overview of income from vassals though the Vassals pane in your character window. The same goes for churches, although if you have papal investiture they'll pay the Pope if they like him better than you. There's an overview of that on the Religion screen. If you personally hold a city or a church, you'll get a penalty, so you should create a new vassal or grant it to someone in your court. Personally held castles pay taxes directly to your coffers, but this is never as much as a city or church.
Recently conquered holdings do not pay tax the first few years (longer if different religion or culture group).
I'm still figuring out the game myself, so if any of this needs to be corrected, please don't hold back.
The easiest way to expand your personal demesne is to build new castles in counties you or your vassals own. The cheapest way is to fabricate and press county claims, since then the county will go directly to you.
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On February 17 2012 08:46 LaNague wrote:
i have some questions for my ongoing munster game, if someone could help me please, the manual is so bad.
i have a de jure claim on a province, i go to war and win, is there a way to make the land my own instead of just getting a forever disgruntled vasall?
some of my cities dont pay taxes, is that because i imprisoned the leader of that province?
And how do i expand my own land in general? only by revoking titles and getting huge opinion hits?
If he is your vassal you can remove his titel (first option in the diplomacy), this does however gives hugh minus relations with your other vassals I think.
It would be much better and easier to just assassinate him and hope his heir loves you OR just give him some gold+honour titles
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On February 16 2012 13:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You have Mauritania instead of Brunswick/Saxony. WHAT THE F*** ?
Started my first game as Saxony. Married my heir to the heir of Franconia (and the princess of HRE), attacked Brandenburg for the Staden barony. Meanwhile the Emperor dies, my heir become consort of Franconia, and the Duke of Brandenbourg becomes Emperor. Now my heir is Duke of Brunswick and his wife is Duchess of Franconia. Their common heir is Billung (my house) and not Salian (her house) so he will get Franconia after her death and a nice civil war . But I can think of controlling the HRE almost completely if he controls 2 big duchy. \o/
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