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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 16:48:34
September 06 2012 16:15 GMT
#801
I don't think there car is that great this year, and stratedgy wise i don't think they have ever not done a one stop? >.<

I don't think it would be a good move for Lewis, but again im sure he knows what is best for him, i don't mind where Lewis goes aslong as he is competitive <3

Press Conference Pre Monza;

Hamilton refused to comments on those reports in the Drivers' Press Conference at Monza, but did little to quell the speculation with the admission that his future is still yet to be determined.

Questioned whether he knew which team he would be for driving with in 2013, Hamilton answered: "No."

Then asked what would be the advantage of joining Mercedes, Hamilton merely replied: "I've no idea, I've not really thought about it.

"I drive for McLaren, we've won the last two grands prix, we've another big race coming up and that's what I need to focus on."


Source
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fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
September 06 2012 22:29 GMT
#802
I sort of think he shouldn't move but if he does: also fine for me. The possible constellations for who gets to be JB's teammate are just too exciting.

Personally I hope: Massa -> bench, MSC -> Ferrari, Ham -> MGP, Raik -> McLaren, some new guy to Lotus
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
September 07 2012 10:47 GMT
#803
Hihi, I've never posted in here before, but I was wondering if someone could point out where I could find material to learn about how F1 works?

Since BW's dead I was looking for another sport to follow and was told that I'd have to understand the difficulty/how things work to fully appreciate it (much like BW lol).

Singapore has a GP here but it's really stupid that F1 is on the other cable network and the only one I can catch on TV is our own.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 07 2012 11:55 GMT
#804
On September 07 2012 19:47 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Hihi, I've never posted in here before, but I was wondering if someone could point out where I could find material to learn about how F1 works?

Since BW's dead I was looking for another sport to follow and was told that I'd have to understand the difficulty/how things work to fully appreciate it (much like BW lol).

Singapore has a GP here but it's really stupid that F1 is on the other cable network and the only one I can catch on TV is our own.



You have the best race by A MILLION MILES though, it's my favorite race of the year to see F1 cars with headlights <3

Rules are standard racing rules, can't overtake under certain flags, have to allow drivers who are ahead of u past you if your about to lap them, qualifying is done the day before the race, penalties for people who break rules etc.

But i will give you links to Summarised version of rules, it might take you a while to read through but it should be interesting and get you hyped.

Testing Rules - Where/When & How Much Testing can be done.

Tyres - Tyres are the most common issue with F1, Soft/Hard/Medium/Wet are the tyre sets

Rules on Spare Cars/Engines/GearBoxes

Weight - Cars and Drivers Equipment need be certain weight

What Happens Under The Safety Car & Why

How The Starting Works

Practice & Qualifying Procedures

Point System

Rules for Drivers & Penalties That Can Occur

That should be enough for you :D ask any other questions in here im sure we will be happy to help
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 12:32:00
September 07 2012 12:31 GMT
#805
On September 07 2012 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 19:47 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Hihi, I've never posted in here before, but I was wondering if someone could point out where I could find material to learn about how F1 works?

Since BW's dead I was looking for another sport to follow and was told that I'd have to understand the difficulty/how things work to fully appreciate it (much like BW lol).

Singapore has a GP here but it's really stupid that F1 is on the other cable network and the only one I can catch on TV is our own.



You have the best race by A MILLION MILES though, it's my favorite race of the year to see F1 cars with headlights <3

Rules are standard racing rules, can't overtake under certain flags, have to allow drivers who are ahead of u past you if your about to lap them, qualifying is done the day before the race, penalties for people who break rules etc.

But i will give you links to Summarised version of rules, it might take you a while to read through but it should be interesting and get you hyped.

Testing Rules - Where/When & How Much Testing can be done.

Tyres - Tyres are the most common issue with F1, Soft/Hard/Medium/Wet are the tyre sets

Rules on Spare Cars/Engines/GearBoxes

Weight - Cars and Drivers Equipment need be certain weight

What Happens Under The Safety Car & Why

How The Starting Works

Practice & Qualifying Procedures

Point System

Rules for Drivers & Penalties That Can Occur

That should be enough for you :D ask any other questions in here im sure we will be happy to help


Eh, Singapore loves throwing money at stuff for its image since we don't have much else imo haha.

Thanks so much! <3 the TL community always for being helpful, was the same when I was picking up Street Fighter too.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 15:13:09
September 07 2012 14:59 GMT
#806
Pick up some season reviews too, it is the best way to learn the sport. From the last ten years I recommend 03, 05, 06, 07, 08, 10. They are around 3hrs each but enjoyable.

My favourite is 2005, here is a short video montage of it. It will spoil who wins the title so be warned.

+ Show Spoiler +
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 07 2012 15:13 GMT
#807
2008 <3 wow, i loved that. Brazil race alone at the end just made it the best ever (For me) overtaking TWO people on the last lap to win the championship is madness, must of gone on a huge bender after that XD
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 11:14:23
September 08 2012 11:09 GMT
#808
Thanks for the montages, lots of crashes though, surely the hype isn't from watching those?

I was wondering, how do you learn how to appreciate say, someone winning? Is there strategy involved? Like in Starcraft you can appreciate how difficult and visually exciting it is when someone pulls a crazy micro move while macroing behind it. Is there something like that? Do the top drivers have some kind of individual style that one can associate with like with TBLS?
Is there some kind of metagameish concept and are there strategies on different tracks like with maps?

Haha I'm so glad I can ask in here since you guys will get the Starcraft analogies!
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Zrana
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom698 Posts
September 08 2012 11:42 GMT
#809
Strategy-wise it can't really compare to starcraft. Basically they decide how many pit stops to take, when to pit and which tyres to use and that's it. Of course that's not easy as you need to take into account the lap times and strategies of the other teams but it's mostly just maths.

The real skill is designing the car (which is all kept secret) and driving it. Yeah drivers definately do have their own styles, although often the car doesn't match the driver. If you look at lewis hamilton and jenson button, one is very aggressive and will do well with a car that's just quicker than everyone else - even if he has to pit more often and fall behind again, and the other will do well in a car that when driven carefully and deliberately will keep it's speed throughout the race and not have to pit so much.

I guess most of the strategy is actually on the track or on the drawing board, as there are usually only a few places where you can actually overtake on any circuit so the rest of the track is spent trying to put yourself in the best position for the overtake (or to avoid being overtaken). In terms of what the designers/engineers do, a lot of how the car behaves is in how much downforce it produces. For example the Red Bull car always has more downforce than other teams (because they have an awesome designer) which is great for a track with loads of corners such as Monaco but not so good on a more high speed track like Spa.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
September 08 2012 11:54 GMT
#810
On September 08 2012 20:42 Zrana wrote:
Strategy-wise it can't really compare to starcraft. Basically they decide how many pit stops to take, when to pit and which tyres to use and that's it. Of course that's not easy as you need to take into account the lap times and strategies of the other teams but it's mostly just maths.

The real skill is designing the car (which is all kept secret) and driving it. Yeah drivers definately do have their own styles, although often the car doesn't match the driver. If you look at lewis hamilton and jenson button, one is very aggressive and will do well with a car that's just quicker than everyone else - even if he has to pit more often and fall behind again, and the other will do well in a car that when driven carefully and deliberately will keep it's speed throughout the race and not have to pit so much.

I guess most of the strategy is actually on the track or on the drawing board, as there are usually only a few places where you can actually overtake on any circuit so the rest of the track is spent trying to put yourself in the best position for the overtake (or to avoid being overtaken). In terms of what the designers/engineers do, a lot of how the car behaves is in how much downforce it produces. For example the Red Bull car always has more downforce than other teams (because they have an awesome designer) which is great for a track with loads of corners such as Monaco but not so good on a more high speed track like Spa.


Thank you! I guess I'll have to spend time and watch some to start picking up all these details. Guess I'll start by watching the qualis
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Scodia
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom588 Posts
September 08 2012 13:02 GMT
#811
wow, that was crazy. can't believe alonso in 10th, I kind of had a feeling massa might have screwed him some how. WP Diresta nice driving.
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fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
September 08 2012 13:15 GMT
#812
too bad for alo, but I like what Ferrari tried to do.

Vettel 5th, not so bad - he might have a shot at the win if he works his magic like he did throughout this season.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 13:17:06
September 08 2012 13:16 GMT
#813
Yeah di Resta and Hulk could have thrown Red Bull into troublesome times for tomorrow
Alonso's toe lap sector times in S1 and S2 looked really awful, but he shouldn't be too worried tomorrow since Grosjean is out and Maldonado back in P22.

edit: Didn't the Ferrari train look like Chevy's WTCC train a bit?
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xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 08 2012 13:30 GMT
#814
1- Get best time in Q1
2- Get best time in Q2
3- A bar breaks and get 10th
4- Profit

So dissapointed, Alo said in the post interview that given the times, it was a fairly easy pole position with the current state of ferrari, such a shame
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 08 2012 15:04 GMT
#815
Oh McLaren <3 well done

Lewis pewpew.
Also well done DiResta smashing 3rd place but the grid penalty is a blow.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
September 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#816
Button is always so unlucky
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
September 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#817
Jensen
Woo Jung Ho
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 09 2012 13:11 GMT
#818
button
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
September 09 2012 13:13 GMT
#819
Wow Perez is running this show. Well, in fact Hamilton does, but he gets zero air-time because he's just so far ahead. Really sad about the penalty for Vettel, that was really uncalled for.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
September 09 2012 13:16 GMT
#820
Awwwww no Vettel :/
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