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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 02 2012 13:42 GMT
#781
Haha, Vettel spraying the girls oO
靈魂交響曲
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
September 02 2012 13:45 GMT
#782
Was an enjoyable race, congrats to Jenson. Not a bad way to celebrate your 50th race with the greatest team Alonso, Hamilton, Perez and Kobayashi can feel angry with Grosjean. Maldonado got two penalties in 5 laps heh to go with his one from yesterday.

Most important thing was that Alonso isnt hurt because his onboard footage was scary. Forza Monza!!!!
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Vagabond
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland149 Posts
September 02 2012 15:21 GMT
#783
I know i might be a bit rash for saying this but I think its time RoGro goes back to being a banker. he might be good in GP2 but spa 2009 first lap he took out Button and Hamilton just after the Straight at the top of La Rouge. And now he is constantly messing up his and other peoples races on the starting line.

Also Williams seems to be happy with Maldanado's False start on twitter

Williams F1 ‏@WilliamsF1Team

Great start from Pastor but then caught in first corner accident - still going and heading into pits
Drone untill i die.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
September 02 2012 16:09 GMT
#784
GRO banned for 1 race, DAM most likely replacement for Monza. Why didn't they do this for MAL yet?
Speaking of MAL, 5 pos. penalty for jump start and 5 pos. penalty for collision makes up for a nice 10 place grid drop in Monza for him.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
September 02 2012 16:15 GMT
#785
I agree Zere, I think it is harsh that Grosjean gets a race ban. It was clumsy but I think malicious driving Maldonado has shown numerous times is much more deserving of a race ban. I guess the FIA made the call because Alonso came very close to being killed.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 16:40:35
September 02 2012 16:35 GMT
#786
What I wonder is whether DAM actually is a proper replacement. Didn't do much in 2011 except lacking speed compared to Glock; Pic is at least giving him a good run.
Might not be a bad idea to reach out to Renault and ask for a driver who is tied to them, someone like Baguette. Edit: Ok scrap it, Baguette shouldn't have a Superlicense anymore. There's more good drivers in Renault's grasp tho. Frijns or Bird would surely get a super license. Or Bianchi, who is driving circles around anyone since years.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Vagabond
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland149 Posts
September 02 2012 17:06 GMT
#787
This was from the News artical from planet f1


Grosjean Slapped With A One-Race Ban

Romain Grosjean will have to watch the Italian GP from the sidelines after he was hit with a ban and a fine for causing the first-lap carnage in Belgium.

Having started eighth on the grid, the Lotus driver put the squeeze on Lewis Hamilton's McLaren on the approach for La Source and that trigged a major pile-up on the first corner.

Both Grosjean and Hamilton were forced to retire along with Sergio Perez of Sauber and Ferrari's Fernando Alonso, who was lucky to escape serious injury after the airborne Lotus went flying just a few inches past his head.

Asked after the incident who was to blame for the accident, Grosjean said: "I do not know if I moved over too quickly."

He added: "I have not seen the image, but the main thing is we are all okay."

However, the race stewards found that he was responsible and dished out a race ban as well as a 50,000 euro fine.

"Extremely serious breach of the regulations which had the potential to cause injury to others," a statement read.

"It eliminated leading championship contenders from the race. The stewards note the team conceded the action of the driver was an extremely serious mistake and an error of judgement. Neither the team nor the driver made any submission in mitigation of penalty."

Although Grosjean will miss the Italian GP, Lotus can run another driver with reserve and test driver Jerome D'Ambrossio likely to take his place.

Meanwhile, Pastor Maldonado will drop 10 places on the grid at Monza next weekend after being hit with two five-place penalties for separate incidents.

The first one was for his jump start when the lights went out and the second was for causing an accident with Timo Glock at Turn 1.

People might think its abit of a shame to give him the one race ban, but remember he has caused incidents all season long at the first straight/ corner all year.
Drone untill i die.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 18:41:43
September 02 2012 18:40 GMT
#788
Oh Grosjean if you don't get a penalty for that i would be very suprised. Poor Alonso did have a clue any of that was going on and then BOOM, see's cars and debrie flying everywhere and his race is over.

Such an annoyance in terms of watching though, even though it was a good race withouth Alonso and Lewis pushing im pretty sure we didn't get to see the race we could have got >.<


Oh wow a 1 match ban? Well no offense but mr Maldanado deserves a 2 race ban for his fault start and his continous disciplinary proceedings against him. FFS i knew it was a false start before they mentioned it haha.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
September 02 2012 18:48 GMT
#789
Nico roseberg horrible weekend...

Maldonaldo not surprised to see him in an accident

JB wins
☺
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
September 02 2012 19:56 GMT
#790
Maldonado deserves a revoking of his super license and a kick in the ass from every driver out there.
Thankfully nobody got injured today.

What a race for Vettel!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 02 2012 20:12 GMT
#791
On September 03 2012 04:56 fanta[Rn] wrote:
Maldonado deserves a revoking of his super license and a kick in the ass from every driver out there.
Thankfully nobody got injured today.

What a race for Vettel!


Indeed, will be interesting to see Monza and if Vettel was just quick cuz Jenson wasn't pushing his car to the limits or if Vettel genuinely was super quick out there.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
September 02 2012 23:18 GMT
#792
On September 03 2012 05:12 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 04:56 fanta[Rn] wrote:
Maldonado deserves a revoking of his super license and a kick in the ass from every driver out there.
Thankfully nobody got injured today.

What a race for Vettel!


Indeed, will be interesting to see Monza and if Vettel was just quick cuz Jenson wasn't pushing his car to the limits or if Vettel genuinely was super quick out there.


can't see the RB being that quick at Monza, they have so little pace in a straight line. I imagine the Ferrari's, McLarens and Merc's to be up there.


But why the hell is Maldonado allowed to race in F1, he has already been given 9 penalties in 12 races I read on F1 Fanatic and 7 of those where for casuing incidents...
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
September 03 2012 01:09 GMT
#793
Well Grosjean was not banned for any accumulation of penalties, so that should not factor into it when you consider if it was fair. I have never seen (that I recall) a ban result from a collision before, and I cannot say that is the most dangerous driving I have seen. So in comparison it seems harsh to me.
What defines something that is worthy of a ban? Serious injury? Possibility of serious injury? Malice? Foolishness? The rules seem to have changed recently (last decade)to be more strict but I think fans or even drivers do not know where they stand.

Here is the most dangerous piece of driving I can remember, no penalty or even mention of it. Trulli, of all people.

+ Show Spoiler +
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 03 2012 07:41 GMT
#794
Yeah true Arist. But on the replays it just looked like Grosjean didn't even see Lewis at all and just blindly and wildly crashed into Lewis which then caused the possibility of the serious injury to numerous drivers. I think Folishness and Possibility of serious injury was the reason Grosjean was banned for 1 race, and in the terms of Maldanaldo 9penalties in 12 races and not even been banned i would be pretty annoyed with the FIA if i was Grosjean but im glad they banned him because the people he took out could of ruined there world championship bid.
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Svenny90
Profile Joined May 2012
21 Posts
September 03 2012 07:45 GMT
#795
12 races this year, Grosjean had an accident in the first round in 6 of them. Seriously?
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
September 03 2012 08:39 GMT
#796
To be fair, It wasn't his 100% faults all the time. Especially Australia was Crashtor's fault. But Monaco and Spa were extremely bad, yes.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
September 05 2012 16:04 GMT
#797
Eddie Jordan reporting Hamilton has signed for Mercedes, bollocks I say.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19489930
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 05 2012 16:10 GMT
#798
Fkn Jordan. If Hamilton does that i would be VERY suprised. Even though he clearly craves to be NO1 driver and doesn't seem to fit into a team aspect in the sense his partner could have x y and z diffo things on his car and it's better, Mercedes don't seem to be with the pace no more and the strats they do are always wrong >.<

Should go to Lotus if he wants to join a team like that.
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
September 06 2012 13:24 GMT
#799
1992, September 8th. 20 years ago in Monza: 28 cars, 2 disqualified, 15 retired, 11 classified.
The winner will always be our hero, the 2nd place finisher we regularly watch. And 3rd place is still racing!

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ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 06 2012 16:03 GMT
#800
Ross Brawn is a BAMF, he even got Button a world championship ffs, Hamilton with Brawn would be insane
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