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Doomgiver
Profile Joined September 2010
Portugal59 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#41
omg its pokemon in wow, i cant believe it.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6204 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#42
Why does everyone always rage on wow, I actually like to play it casually all the expansions really. I remember in TBC when everyone said it was fucking terrible compared to vanilla and apparently it's the best expansion now lol. oh well w/e I'll be playing some pandaran and I'll enjoy it ^^.
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
October 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#43
On October 22 2011 05:30 suxN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:25 reki- wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:13 Bleak wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:09 reki- wrote:
I think it's ridiculous and it shows they've absolutely run out of ideas or are just trying to make filler expansions between the ideas they do still have but can't release because they need to keep wow running for atleast 5 more years

To me pandarians was a "joke" hero in wc3:tft and to add them to the warcraft universe like this is just insulting really


Well to be fair, who is left to kill in the lore? Almost everyone important is dead.

We have Kiljaedenn...which was fought in BC ina weakened form with the help of blue dragons and that he wasn't in Azeroth entirely...we have Sargeras which would destroy the WoW heroes by just thinking about it....There really is nothing left.

I just wish they released Wrath prior to BC and BC came as the third expansion. It would have been much better. I think this news makes it clear for me that I won't touch any future xpansions anymore.


You are right, the only thing left they referenced is the emerald dream and maybe some old god. Killing "real" kiljaeden or sargeras is pretty unthinkable within wow lore, but so are panda's.

That's why i said they (blizzard with activision influence ) decided to make filler expansions between the big ideas they still have.




There is also that naga goddess. And they could start pve'ing opposing factions.


Or bring back Illidan and Arthas to be killed again. They do love to recycle old models and bosses. Go green.
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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#44
On October 22 2011 05:34 Doomgiver wrote:
omg its pokemon in wow, i cant believe it.

A whole panel devoted to talking about Pokem- PET BATTLE SYSTEM ITS NEW TO US TOO!

wow. just wow.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
suxN
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Finland1167 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#45
On October 22 2011 05:35 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:30 suxN wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:25 reki- wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:13 Bleak wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:09 reki- wrote:
I think it's ridiculous and it shows they've absolutely run out of ideas or are just trying to make filler expansions between the ideas they do still have but can't release because they need to keep wow running for atleast 5 more years

To me pandarians was a "joke" hero in wc3:tft and to add them to the warcraft universe like this is just insulting really


Well to be fair, who is left to kill in the lore? Almost everyone important is dead.

We have Kiljaedenn...which was fought in BC ina weakened form with the help of blue dragons and that he wasn't in Azeroth entirely...we have Sargeras which would destroy the WoW heroes by just thinking about it....There really is nothing left.

I just wish they released Wrath prior to BC and BC came as the third expansion. It would have been much better. I think this news makes it clear for me that I won't touch any future xpansions anymore.


You are right, the only thing left they referenced is the emerald dream and maybe some old god. Killing "real" kiljaeden or sargeras is pretty unthinkable within wow lore, but so are panda's.

That's why i said they (blizzard with activision influence ) decided to make filler expansions between the big ideas they still have.




There is also that naga goddess. And they could start pve'ing opposing factions.


Or bring back Illidan and Arthas to be killed again. They do love to recycle old models and bosses. Go green.


Haha i suppose youre right. They didnt build caverns of time for nothing
I dont want to be totally out :3
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#46
So much WoW hate :/ Tbh I was hating the whole panda idea myself ever since the rumors started, but after watching the trailer I'm sure it's going to be an amazing expansion. The Pandaren themselves are designed amazingly well and the landscapes are just stunning.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:44:11
October 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#47
They must be really desperate and out of ideas. Pets fighting together with talents and abilities...Bringing back Scholomance and SM Wing 1 and 2 as new dungeons..seriously what the hell.

On October 22 2011 05:34 RvB wrote:
Why does everyone always rage on wow, I actually like to play it casually all the expansions really. I remember in TBC when everyone said it was fucking terrible compared to vanilla and apparently it's the best expansion now lol. oh well w/e I'll be playing some pandaran and I'll enjoy it ^^.


Let's see what BC brought:

2 new races
A new profession.
A huge amount of raiding content, the richest in both lore and number in WoW history
A whole new planet with zones to explore
New talents and new abilities
Flying mounts

So far, the Panda expansion brings...Pandas, which were actually an easter egg, pets fighting each other in Pokemon style, "revamped" dungeons, which are actually copy pasted from Vanilla, not only insulting them but also completely lacking any effort. I've run Scholo for probably close to 50 times to get some items, and that place holds a place in my memories. Way to thrash that with pandas and pokemons running around.

WoW has been dying since Patch 3.2. Cataclysm revived it for a little while, but this Pandaland will kill it for the gamers who know what is worth and what is not.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 21 2011 20:39 GMT
#48
I don't play WoW anymore but I think the new expansion looks really nice once you get past the "omg it's a panda" thing (we know they fit in the lore).

- Chinese aesthetic is a nice change of pace.

- Pet Battle System = Pokemon = Hours of fun!

- Challenge Mode in Dungeons is a positive.

- Monk is just an awesome class in general. Was one of my favs in EQ and if they can make it like that then it should rock (will probably be OP tho lol).

The fact of the matter is this expansion will be more polished, detailed and deep than just about any normal MMO on the market (until GW2 prob). People may have burned out on WoW but it still is a solid game and this doesn't look like it's changing that. Rather, it's adding more to an already complex game.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 21 2011 20:39 GMT
#49
On October 22 2011 05:29 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:27 Bibdy wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:06 MisterD wrote:
stop posting "this is bad" and post why this is bad, i want to hear the reasoning behind these thoughts. How can you tell if this is any worse than all the other stuff they have done? They surely won't lose a single word about the typical "best item before addon is worse than first random drop from new addon", so how can you tell from just knowing that there's a new continent, a new race, a new class, and new public raids or whatever that was earlier?




/edit: Also, why has no-one mentioned this yet here: this addon should be called World of Kung Fu Panda xD that trailer just now of the pandaren monk fighting sealed it for me. i'm definitely not going to call it anything else.



From where I'm sitting, they're basically just announcing "Alright, you've killed all of the badguys and pretty much closed all of the plots and storylines we opened in WC3. We've literally run out of stuff to talk about and we can't come up with anything new. So, now we're going to throw in some fan service (Panderans), throw in the defacto Monk class (any RPG that throws this guy in has basically run out of ideas), make the Horde and Alliance go to war with one another just for the heck of it, and add a bunch of casual friendly mechanics (dungeon challenges, valor points from daily quests, yada yada) in order to keep you all entertained while we scramble to save this franchise."
Err, that's not what it sounds like to me. To me it sounds like they're finally genuinely attempting to make all parts of gameplay rewarding to players with large skill disparities. It sounds like they want to reinvigorate world pvp with the alliance vs the horde. And to be honest, a little bit of deviation from BIG BAD DUDE IS GOING TO DESTROY THE WORLD storyline is like a breath of fresh air.



They've already done so. They divided raiding between faceroll mode and soul sucking mode with barely any difference in rewards. Sure, heroic modes may still be too easy for the top of the top players but for anybody below that, the difference between heroic and normal is a huge chasm.

This new expansion does feel like a joke. New classes in MMOs are problematic as well since they can't just delete old classes and they have to balance another new one. 10 classes already feels like too much.
Choo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States126 Posts
October 21 2011 20:42 GMT
#50
I was crossing my fingers hoping that this years Blizzcon might bring us the first hints or teasers of Titan as the big news... *sigh*... Maybe next year...
meowmeow-
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:46:04
October 21 2011 20:43 GMT
#51
Why all the WoW-hate?

I love that game and if my day had 48 hours, I'd play that shit 24/7.

I tend to play on my brother's account once a year for a month or two to see whats up and from a casual perspective, that game is beyond brilliant.

The questlines are entertaining and hilarious, the zones are breathtaking and the combat is very fluent. I can't talk about endgame-content, since I only play one character to the max level in every new expand and it was alway immensely entertaining.

How did you guys come to the conclusion that pet-combat should be like Pokémon?
Life is short, waste it wisely.
suxN
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Finland1167 Posts
October 21 2011 20:43 GMT
#52
Im slightly disappointed that they decided to make a monk class. I was hoping for a ranged tank since its pretty much the only role that is missing. (well we did have warlocks on kiljaeden and mages on some ogre fellow but theyre not solid). I wonder how ranged tanks will work on swtor and if we will see them much more on the future mmo's
I dont want to be totally out :3
suxN
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Finland1167 Posts
October 21 2011 20:46 GMT
#53
On October 22 2011 05:43 meowmeow- wrote:
Why all the WoW-hate?

I love that game and if my day had 48 hours, I'd play that shit 24/7.

I tend to play on my brother's account once a year for a month or two to see whats up and from a casual perspective, that game is beyond brilliant.

The questlines are entertaining and hilarious, the zones are breathtaking and the combat is very fluent. I can't talk about endgame-content, since I only play one character to the max level in every new expand and it was alway immensely entertaining.


Yeah, its no wonder people dont like wow since they have played it for 100days online time per year. No game is fun if you play it around 8h/day, especially not the casual friendly games.
I dont want to be totally out :3
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:49:49
October 21 2011 20:48 GMT
#54
Seriously, it starts getting better and better. What's with all the hate...

This information is amazing.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6204 Posts
October 21 2011 20:50 GMT
#55
On October 22 2011 05:38 Bleak wrote:
They must be really desperate and out of ideas. Pets fighting together with talents and abilities...Bringing back Scholomance and SM Wing 1 and 2 as new dungeons..seriously what the hell.

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:34 RvB wrote:
Why does everyone always rage on wow, I actually like to play it casually all the expansions really. I remember in TBC when everyone said it was fucking terrible compared to vanilla and apparently it's the best expansion now lol. oh well w/e I'll be playing some pandaran and I'll enjoy it ^^.


Let's see what BC brought:

2 new races
A new profession.
A huge amount of raiding content, the richest in both lore and number in WoW history
A whole new planet with zones to explore
New talents and new abilities
Flying mounts

So far, the Panda expansion brings...Pandas, which were actually an easter egg, pets fighting each other in Pokemon style, "revamped" dungeons, which are actually copy pasted from Vanilla, not only insulting them but also completely lacking any effort. I've run Scholo for probably close to 50 times to get some items, and that place holds a place in my memories. Way to thrash that with pandas and pokemons running around.

WoW has been dying since Patch 3.2. Cataclysm revived it for a little while, but this Pandaland will kill it for the gamers who know what is worth and what is not.


My point was that the community in wow has always hated on everything, when tbc was there it was terrible, when wotlk was there it was even worse, cataclysm also sucks. They're just never happy. And yeh if you run something 50 times it gets boring but there are actually a lot of people who don't run dungeons 50 times. WoW is fine just play it casually and I bet you'll enjoy it a lot
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:55:23
October 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#56
On October 22 2011 05:48 Thorakh wrote:
Seriously, it starts getting better and better. What's with all the hate...


If you cannot see why, I don't have more to say. Either the fanboyism clouds your judgment, or you're a relatively new WoW player who don't know much about its past.

The game where one used to fight C'Thun and Illidan has turned into a game of pokemons and pandas. What is there not to hate?

On October 22 2011 05:50 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:38 Bleak wrote:
They must be really desperate and out of ideas. Pets fighting together with talents and abilities...Bringing back Scholomance and SM Wing 1 and 2 as new dungeons..seriously what the hell.

On October 22 2011 05:34 RvB wrote:
Why does everyone always rage on wow, I actually like to play it casually all the expansions really. I remember in TBC when everyone said it was fucking terrible compared to vanilla and apparently it's the best expansion now lol. oh well w/e I'll be playing some pandaran and I'll enjoy it ^^.


Let's see what BC brought:

2 new races
A new profession.
A huge amount of raiding content, the richest in both lore and number in WoW history
A whole new planet with zones to explore
New talents and new abilities
Flying mounts

So far, the Panda expansion brings...Pandas, which were actually an easter egg, pets fighting each other in Pokemon style, "revamped" dungeons, which are actually copy pasted from Vanilla, not only insulting them but also completely lacking any effort. I've run Scholo for probably close to 50 times to get some items, and that place holds a place in my memories. Way to thrash that with pandas and pokemons running around.

WoW has been dying since Patch 3.2. Cataclysm revived it for a little while, but this Pandaland will kill it for the gamers who know what is worth and what is not.


My point was that the community in wow has always hated on everything, when tbc was there it was terrible, when wotlk was there it was even worse, cataclysm also sucks. They're just never happy. And yeh if you run something 50 times it gets boring but there are actually a lot of people who don't run dungeons 50 times. WoW is fine just play it casually and I bet you'll enjoy it a lot


There is no point to play casually for me. I left the game because of that in 2010 February, because I can't really commit that anymore, and frankly there isn't anything left to commit. Dungeons that anyone can gain access to, fights that are same but only different in difficulty, raids that felt as a joke (Does anyone remember the circus we got as a raid?), classes and talent trees that got homogenized to the point of no variance The list goes on.

I don't know others but I never hated Burning Crusade. WOTLK, I sure hated that, at least most of it. Catacylsm was better, but still did not meet my expectations. It is still a good expansion, but it does not have what I want.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
October 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#57
Honestly this is silly, even the trailer is trolling us. We fight gods, demons, Lich-Kings and even Deathwing himself and then suddenly.........PANDAS for everyone!! ^_^

If this is Blizzards answer to The Old Republic then god help them.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:55:42
October 21 2011 20:53 GMT
#58
On October 22 2011 05:51 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:48 Thorakh wrote:
Seriously, it starts getting better and better. What's with all the hate...


If you cannot see why, I don't have more to say. Either the fanboyism clouds your judgment, or you're a relatively new WoW player who don't know much about its past.

The game where one used to fight C'Thun and Illidan has turned into a game of pokemons and pandas. What is there not to hate?
I have played since TBC. I've raided both hardcore and casual. I'm excited for this expansion.

Jesus, look past the pandas and pokemans and you'll see a rough gem. One that Blizzard will break, of course, but the potential is there at least. I for one am glad they didn't go with yet another IMBA BAD GUY again.
suxN
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Finland1167 Posts
October 21 2011 20:54 GMT
#59
One new news that im disappointed with; You can fly in the new continent once your max level. I feel like flying is one of the dumber things in wow.
Then another new that im puzzled with; Monks dont have autoattack and use weapons only for finishing moves. This will bring a new battle mechanic to wow, prolly making it feel little like a FPS game or something like "god of war".
I dont want to be totally out :3
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
October 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#60
On October 22 2011 05:53 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:51 Bleak wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:48 Thorakh wrote:
Seriously, it starts getting better and better. What's with all the hate...


If you cannot see why, I don't have more to say. Either the fanboyism clouds your judgment, or you're a relatively new WoW player who don't know much about its past.

The game where one used to fight C'Thun and Illidan has turned into a game of pokemons and pandas. What is there not to hate?
I have played since TBC. I've raided pretty hardcore. I'm excited for this expansion.

Jesus, look past the pandas and pokemans and you'll see a rough gem. One that Blizzard will break, of course, but the potential is there at least.


The fact that you can use term "hardcore" implies that you dont play WoW anymore. It takes atmost 2 days to clear everything and be done for the week. I thought worgens were dumb, but this definitely tops it.
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