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jonhy-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovakia167 Posts
September 23 2014 15:23 GMT
#12201
i need to get a laptop for myself just a cheap one but i would like to get something what runs cs go smootly is this one would do?
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 15:52:22
September 23 2014 15:44 GMT
#12202
I'd heavily suggest not to try and play CSGO on a laptop if you want to do anything but casual stuff. It's a game that needs a ton of FPS. 30-60 is not enough, 200-300 and it's a different game. Also - even if it ran fine - your laptop screen is going to be way too small to play properly. Being able to see through double doors on Dust 2 or into graveyard on Inferno is simply not possible on a >15" screen for example.

Source: I tried it. :p

Maybe someone that knows more about laptop hardware can help you out with what the better choice is but, again, don't set your hopes too high in regards to playing CSGO 'seriously' on a laptop.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 15:58:26
September 23 2014 15:53 GMT
#12203
I play on my Laptop because I don't have a choice, but I get around...~70-90fps.

My laptop screen is also 14 inches and I play with a lower resolution as well (1280x1024 or something). Seeing graveyard/double doors on Dust2 is kind of tough, but I just prefire that area anyway and get headshots npnpnpnpnp

I managed to get to MG2 with my laptop, and while I don't know how much of an improvement I'd make simply by changing over to a desktop, I think you can do about average if you stick with a laptop.

Basically, don't believe Nihil. You can definitely play competitive on a laptop and depending on your FPS and your dedication to practicing, you can definitely get to an okay rank with it.

I'm also improving my play all the time, and I think I can hit DMG with a laptop so yeh.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 23 2014 15:58 GMT
#12204
On September 24 2014 00:44 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
I'd heavily suggest not to try and play CSGO on a laptop if you want to do anything but casual stuff. It's a game that needs a ton of FPS. 30-60 is not enough, 200-300 and it's a different game. Also - even if it ran fine - your laptop screen is going to be way too small to play properly. Being able to see through double doors on Dust 2 or into graveyard on Inferno is simply not possible on a >15" screen for example.

Source: I tried it. :p

Maybe someone that knows more about laptop hardware can help you out with what the better choice is but, again, don't set your hopes too high in regards to playing CSGO 'seriously' on a laptop.


you can still use a laptop but I would highly recommend using a dedicated monitor and keyboard with the laptop.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 23 2014 16:00 GMT
#12205
On September 24 2014 00:58 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 00:44 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
I'd heavily suggest not to try and play CSGO on a laptop if you want to do anything but casual stuff. It's a game that needs a ton of FPS. 30-60 is not enough, 200-300 and it's a different game. Also - even if it ran fine - your laptop screen is going to be way too small to play properly. Being able to see through double doors on Dust 2 or into graveyard on Inferno is simply not possible on a >15" screen for example.

Source: I tried it. :p

Maybe someone that knows more about laptop hardware can help you out with what the better choice is but, again, don't set your hopes too high in regards to playing CSGO 'seriously' on a laptop.


you can still use a laptop but I would highly recommend using a dedicated monitor and keyboard with the laptop.


Oh yeah, I use a mechanical keyboard and obviously a mouse on top of that. I do not, however, use a dedicated monitor simply because I don't have one as I am saving up for one.
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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
September 23 2014 16:01 GMT
#12206
there are quite a few pro players who do just fine with 1024x768 (w/ black bars) so the monitor size itself isn't that big of a problem if you are close to the screen
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 23 2014 16:02 GMT
#12207
Well, they play 1024x768 w/black bars on like a 24 inch screen and some of them lean in real close anyway, but yes screen size and resolution won't prevent you from being a reasonable player.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 16:08:41
September 23 2014 16:06 GMT
#12208
On September 24 2014 00:53 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I play on my Laptop because I don't have a choice, but I get around...~70-90fps.

My laptop screen is also 14 inches and I play with a lower resolution as well (1280x1024 or something). Seeing graveyard/double doors on Dust2 is kind of tough, but I just prefire that area anyway and get headshots npnpnpnpnp

I managed to get to MG2 with my laptop, and while I don't know how much of an improvement I'd make simply by changing over to a desktop, I think you can do about average if you stick with a laptop.

Basically, don't believe Nihil. You can definitely play competitive on a laptop and depending on your FPS and your dedication to practicing, you can definitely get to an okay rank with it.

I'm also improving my play all the time, and I think I can hit DMG with a laptop so yeh.


So you confirm all my points of why it's bad to play CSGO on a laptop and then close by saying "Don't believe Nihil"? Lol

Res != Screen size guys. Of course you can play fine on 1024x768 if you want to but a tiny laptop screen simply will have you not seeing people in cover far away.

Do whatever you want, I don't care, just saying, I tried it and it's really frustrating. You are going to be playing way below the level you could play at on a real gaming machine.
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
September 23 2014 16:08 GMT
#12209
^
Basically what nihil said.
You don't want to play on a small screen (mine has a 17,3" screen, and it's simply not enough). You won't have a hole lot of fun with the specs you've posted. Framerate will not be constant and you will be bothered with micro stutters at least. 4 gb of ram aren't enough on a mobile gaming device nowadays.

As reference: I have a i7-4702mq, 8 GB ram with a 760m and there is no way to play the without an addition monitor, details on low and resolution 1680xsomething. And even than it isn't guaranteed that i will have constant frame rate. The worst thing is; every now and then, during mm, the game minimizes without warning and sends me to the desktop (not enough ram!) The last thing is more of a win8 problem. I'm sure i would get way better results overall with win7. But yeah, specs on paper and realtiy vary a lot in the mobile gameing sector.

I don't have any references, this is based all on my personal experience
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 16:20:39
September 23 2014 16:18 GMT
#12210
On September 24 2014 01:06 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 00:53 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I play on my Laptop because I don't have a choice, but I get around...~70-90fps.

My laptop screen is also 14 inches and I play with a lower resolution as well (1280x1024 or something). Seeing graveyard/double doors on Dust2 is kind of tough, but I just prefire that area anyway and get headshots npnpnpnpnp

I managed to get to MG2 with my laptop, and while I don't know how much of an improvement I'd make simply by changing over to a desktop, I think you can do about average if you stick with a laptop.

Basically, don't believe Nihil. You can definitely play competitive on a laptop and depending on your FPS and your dedication to practicing, you can definitely get to an okay rank with it.

I'm also improving my play all the time, and I think I can hit DMG with a laptop so yeh.


So you confirm all my points of why it's bad to play CSGO on a laptop and then close by saying "Don't believe Nihil"? Lol

Res != Screen size guys. Of course you can play fine on 1024x768 if you want to but a tiny laptop screen simply will have you not seeing people in cover far away.

Do whatever you want, I don't care, just saying, I tried it and it's really frustrating. You are going to be playing way below the level you could play at on a real gaming machine.


I didn't confirm it. For instance, I don't get 30-60 fps. 70-90 is completely manageable. And just for reference, from what rank are you speaking from? Playing at 60fps is actually completely fine if your general skill level is like anywhere between Silver 1 to MG2. I can't speak for above that because I haven't been there, but I got to MG2 on a new account by playing at essentially 60fps. I have not found any players at this skill level that weren't straight up better than me that benefited from the split second/half second differences that people orgasm about. By the way, I'm not saying MG2 is a good rank, but it's respectable enough I'd say.

I also didn't say that the small screen inhibits my gameplay. I said it makes it a bit tough but I hardly ever notice and I prefire those spots anyway.

I said don't listen to you because you made it sound like the only thing he could do in the game would be to play casual shit, which is completely untrue. You can still play the game competitively and probably get to a comfortable/respectable rank too and to say that you are playing "way below your level" just because you don't have the proper machine is just bullshit. There's no way that if I get a machine that plays CSGO at 200-300 fps, I will suddenly jump to DMG or even MGE.
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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
September 23 2014 16:18 GMT
#12211
On September 24 2014 01:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, they play 1024x768 w/black bars on like a 24 inch screen and some of them lean in real close anyway, but yes screen size and resolution won't prevent you from being a reasonable player.

yeah but if it's with black bars the size of the monitor doesn't matter, that was the whole point. 1024x768 /w bb on a 15 inch screen is just as big as on a 24 inch screen

if it's stretched to fit the screen is another matter but like i said plenty of pros who play with a small 4:3 resolution play on it unstretched
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 23 2014 16:21 GMT
#12212
On September 24 2014 01:18 iv~nk~j wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, they play 1024x768 w/black bars on like a 24 inch screen and some of them lean in real close anyway, but yes screen size and resolution won't prevent you from being a reasonable player.

yeah but if it's with black bars the size of the monitor doesn't matter, that was the whole point. 1024x768 /w bb on a 15 inch screen is just as big as on a 24 inch screen

if it's stretched to fit the screen is another matter but like i said plenty of pros who play with a small 4:3 resolution play on it unstretched

? no rofl
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 16:24:24
September 23 2014 16:22 GMT
#12213
On September 24 2014 01:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:06 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
On September 24 2014 00:53 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I play on my Laptop because I don't have a choice, but I get around...~70-90fps.

My laptop screen is also 14 inches and I play with a lower resolution as well (1280x1024 or something). Seeing graveyard/double doors on Dust2 is kind of tough, but I just prefire that area anyway and get headshots npnpnpnpnp

I managed to get to MG2 with my laptop, and while I don't know how much of an improvement I'd make simply by changing over to a desktop, I think you can do about average if you stick with a laptop.

Basically, don't believe Nihil. You can definitely play competitive on a laptop and depending on your FPS and your dedication to practicing, you can definitely get to an okay rank with it.

I'm also improving my play all the time, and I think I can hit DMG with a laptop so yeh.


So you confirm all my points of why it's bad to play CSGO on a laptop and then close by saying "Don't believe Nihil"? Lol

Res != Screen size guys. Of course you can play fine on 1024x768 if you want to but a tiny laptop screen simply will have you not seeing people in cover far away.

Do whatever you want, I don't care, just saying, I tried it and it's really frustrating. You are going to be playing way below the level you could play at on a real gaming machine.


I didn't confirm it. For instance, I don't get 30-60 fps. 70-90 is completely manageable. And just for reference, from what rank are you speaking from? Playing at 60fps is actually completely fine if your general skill level is like anywhere between Silver 1 to MG2. I can't speak for above that because I haven't been there, but I got to MG2 on a new account by playing at essentially 60fps. I have not found any players at this skill level that weren't straight up better than me that benefited from the split second/half second differences that people orgasm about.

I also didn't say that the small screen inhibits my gameplay. I said it makes it a bit tough but I hardly ever notice and I prefire those spots anyway.

I said don't listen to you because you made it sound like the only thing he could do in the game would be to play casual shit, which is completely untrue. You can still play the game competitively and probably get to a comfortable/respectable rank too and to say that you are playing "way below your level" just because you don't have the proper machine is just bullshit. There's no way that if I get a machine that plays CSGO at 200-300 fps, I will suddenly jump to DMG or even MGE.


Have you ever played CSGO on a 'proper' machine with 200-300 FPS and a 24-inch screen or similar? Because I have seen both worlds and base my opinion off of that experience. It's great that you managed to achieve to get to MGE with a laptop but when I talk competitive I mean to play at the height of your abilities. A laptop simply doesn't allow you to do that. If you switched to a good desktop PC with high fps and a big close-up 120Hz monitor maybe I'd be willing to bet that you would indeed jump a couple ranks up after a short transitional getting-used-to period. You make it sound like PC and monitor performance has nothing to do with how well you play which I think is not right.
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 16:27:10
September 23 2014 16:25 GMT
#12214
On September 24 2014 01:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:18 iv~nk~j wrote:
On September 24 2014 01:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, they play 1024x768 w/black bars on like a 24 inch screen and some of them lean in real close anyway, but yes screen size and resolution won't prevent you from being a reasonable player.

yeah but if it's with black bars the size of the monitor doesn't matter, that was the whole point. 1024x768 /w bb on a 15 inch screen is just as big as on a 24 inch screen

if it's stretched to fit the screen is another matter but like i said plenty of pros who play with a small 4:3 resolution play on it unstretched

? no rofl

yes it is, do you understand how black bars work? only the 1024x768 sized area is used while the rest is just blackness

if the 15 inch monitor is capable of 1024x768 (as in it has atleast 1024 pixel width and atleast 768 pixel height) then the picture is just the same size as on a 24 inch monitor. only that area of the screen is used so the picture (i.e. the game) is the same size on both screens

this is assuming both screens have same pixel size, since for example a 24" monitor with max resolution of 1920x1080 and a 27" monitor with max resolution of 1920x1080 achieve that difference by the said 27" monitor having bigger pixel size
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 16:28:26
September 23 2014 16:26 GMT
#12215
so ur telling me 1080p is the same size on a 50 inch tv and on a 5 inch smartphone?
cool i learned something new today

alright u cheated and edited
but it doesn't even matter lol pros who play on 1028x764 still stretch that resolution to 1080 vertical pixels with black bars only on the sides most of the time.
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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 16:32:54
September 23 2014 16:27 GMT
#12216
On September 24 2014 01:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
so ur telling me 1080p is the same size on a 50 inch tv and on a 5 inch smartphone?
cool i learned something new today

they use different pixel size... are you actually this computer illiterate? we are assuming here these are both LCD screens with same pixel size

i don't see its cheating to assume when talking about LCD monitors that the pixel size is the same since it's fairly standard, these 1920x1080p 27" for example monitors are the odd ones and anyone who knows anything about monitors avoids them since the bigger pixel size looks awful if viewed from close

aaand most pros who play on a resolution like 1024x768 on a standard 24" 1080p monitor have black bars both on the sides and on the top and bottom
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 23 2014 16:32 GMT
#12217
I play on a laptop because i've no choice, oh well
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 23 2014 16:35 GMT
#12218
Lets keep it short iva;sldkfhasdlf

1) u didn't list ur assumptions hence my post
2) ur edited-in assumptions are wrong
3) ur statement was wrong even if ur assumptions were right

now, its really not worth spamming up a useful thread with, so lets just drop it.
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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
September 23 2014 16:38 GMT
#12219
On September 24 2014 01:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lets keep it short iva;sldkfhasdlf

1) u didn't list ur assumptions hence my post
2) ur edited-in assumptions are wrong
3) ur statement was wrong even if ur assumptions were right

now, its really not worth spamming up a useful thread with, so lets just drop it.

dont try to get last word in idiot

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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 23 2014 16:48 GMT
#12220
NihiL/znf: The issue is obviously what is "reasonable" to you guys. For instance, do you find it reasonable if you're stuck in GN/AK area, or do you need to be able to play at a high level for it to be reasonable?

Having played with znf a lot, he can play at around an AK level, but his reaction time is booty and he would be hard-pressed to go above a certain level, and I think part of it has to do with his laptop. But hey, a lot of people are fine with being able to just play at AK level, so maybe a laptop will be fine.
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