EPTI'll be the first to congratulate people and say things like good job or nice try in chat whenever stuff happens btw.
Anyway now that I've forced myself to use the AK whenever possible, same for m4. I've moved up to Gold Nova 2, about 3 ranks.
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
I'll be the first to congratulate people and say things like good job or nice try in chat whenever stuff happens btw. Anyway now that I've forced myself to use the AK whenever possible, same for m4. I've moved up to Gold Nova 2, about 3 ranks. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On April 19 2014 08:56 Zooper31 wrote: He was doing more than just saying he's lagging. He had alrdy teamfired me several times on top of his "lag" and was afking a lot in spawn after the matches start and not moving. That was too much for me to simply ignore and just play. Had to say something and it backfired because they teamed up against me. Doubt anyone would've just let it go with how the game was playing out. I'm anything but a rager in games and I only talk shit after it's past a certain point I can tolerate. I'll be the first to congratulate people and say things like good job or nice try in chat whenever stuff happens btw. Anyway now that I've forced myself to use the AK whenever possible, same for m4. I've moved up to Gold Nova 2, about 3 ranks. The point is that you really didn't have to say anything. The other thing is: the probability that saying something would improve the situation is extremely close to 0. You were in a situation where you could choose to say nothing (almost certainly the best course of action, given what you described) or you could say something and risk setting off anything from the slow dissolution of your team morale to the metaphorical chain reaction meltdown. The fact that you chose to do the latter and risk hurting your team in order to satisfy your emotional need for calling some random internet person out (mission success?) is why people are on your case. That kind of action, propagated through thousands of players in thousands of games is what makes some MM games really shitty when they didn't need to be. What you did was a reflection to well-mannered players of all the horrible teams they've dealt with who have been dragged down by individuals who are more concerned with fulfilling their immediate emotional needs than rationally concerned with the success of their team. Stating that you have a limit past which you won't tolerate people anymore absolutely does not sway anyone away from the judgments they've made of you. | ||
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
I'll link you to my post which is quite relevant though! Edit: This youtube comment I just read is similarly helpful. Pop or not the point still stands , I think the original is shite and your opinion isn't going to change that. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On April 19 2014 11:12 DefMatrixUltra wrote: The point is that you really didn't have to say anything. The other thing is: the probability that saying something would improve the situation is extremely close to 0. You were in a situation where you could choose to say nothing (almost certainly the best course of action, given what you described) or you could say something and risk setting off anything from the slow dissolution of your team morale to the metaphorical chain reaction meltdown. The fact that you chose to do the latter and risk hurting your team in order to satisfy your emotional need for calling some random internet person out (mission success?) is why people are on your case. That kind of action, propagated through thousands of players in thousands of games is what makes some MM games really shitty when they didn't need to be. What you did was a reflection to well-mannered players of all the horrible teams they've dealt with who have been dragged down by individuals who are more concerned with fulfilling their immediate emotional needs than rationally concerned with the success of their team. Stating that you have a limit past which you won't tolerate people anymore absolutely does not sway anyone away from the judgments they've made of you. Hurting my team? At the point of the match I started talking, the match was alrdy decided and I wanted to let off steam. As I said, its 8-0 and we alrdy had afk's and purposeful teamkillings. I had no intention of winning that game. I stand by my actions 100%. Trolls are gonna troll, so be it. I'll just move on to the next game and get my loss back, to which I did and ranked up. I'm completely fine calling out douchebags and assholes when I see them and I'll continue on that path for the rest of my life. Be it in life or in a game. | ||
Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On April 19 2014 11:38 Zooper31 wrote: Hurting my team? At the point of the match I started talking, the match was alrdy decided and I wanted to let off steam. As I said, its 8-0 and we alrdy had afk's and purposeful teamkillings. I had no intention of winning that game. I stand by my actions 100%. Trolls are gonna troll, so be it. I'll just move on to the next game and get my loss back, to which I did and ranked up. I'm completely fine calling out douchebags and assholes when I see them and I'll continue on that path for the rest of my life. Be it in life or in a game. That's nice. It's fine if you want to let off steam, just don't come bitching back on this thread about how you got kicked from the game then. If you wanted to "let off steam" here as well, there's a thread for that. Matches aren't "decided" until one team hits 16 rounds. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On April 19 2014 11:17 Durak wrote: I love the irony of ripping into Zooper31 and expecting him to change his behaviour. It's not quite irony. Going off on people in a game (that you're presumably wanting to win or at least play) is anticonstructive. On this forum in this thread, nothing is really at stake. On April 19 2014 11:38 Zooper31 wrote: Hurting my team? At the point of the match I started talking, the match was alrdy decided and I wanted to let off steam. As I said, its 8-0 and we alrdy had afk's and purposeful teamkillings. I had no intention of winning that game. I stand by my actions 100%. Trolls are gonna troll, so be it. I'll just move on to the next game and get my loss back, to which I did and ranked up. I'm completely fine calling out douchebags and assholes when I see them and I'll continue on that path for the rest of my life. Be it in life or in a game. Really all I'm trying to say is to look at the situation from a third person perspective. You are perceiving your actions as fundamentally different from those who ruin others' games. I'll try to illustrate what I mean. You say, for example, that the match was already decided. You personally defined some particular bar below which you write the game off. A lot of people do this. In fact, I'd say most people do it. I'd also argue that it's the genesis of most ruined games. Think about the height of your bar. Maybe the next guy on your team has a bar similar to yours but his is 1 inch higher - so he gives in to the shitfest a little earlier than you do. Maybe there's a guy on your team who makes a mistake on the first round and decides that he's reached the limit of his bar at that point. All these bars are based on people's individual emotional states. That guy that gives up after the first round mistake? He has exactly the same attitude about the game that you do, just at a different tolerance. Yeah, you can absolutely criticize him for giving in to his emotions at the expense of the rest of the team, but in exactly the same way a player whose tolerance is higher than yours can criticize you. Because fundamentally, going off on your team never makes sense in any situation. No matter whether you're trying to win or not. Nothing good ever comes of trashtalking, especially not at some random stranger on the internet whose sum-total effect on your life (i.e. how much they get under your skin) is 100% up to you. Giving in to stress and frustration won't even make you feel better, it only primes you for more stress and more frustration. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
And the game is far from decided at 8-0. I've been on both sides of matches more lopsided than that where the losing team comes back to win or draw. Just a few weeks ago I had a game where my team was winning 9-0 on Dust 2 and we ended up drawing 15-15... | ||
Souma
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Kotreb
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Souma
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Croatia1392 Posts
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United Kingdom7084 Posts
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
On April 19 2014 23:16 Kotreb wrote: Ok, so i just saw this thread on hltv about who is the best support player and it seems a lot of people have different definitions of what support player actually is. So what would you guys say, what is a support player? As Dang said there is no such thing as support player, the only role in CS ever existed was rifler or sniper(can be both). Some players had distinctive styles, sure (more aggressive, defensive or passive). There is also a strat caller but its out of game position. I remember some tournament in Korea or China where they made ettiquettes to every player like aggressive player or support, it was really over the top and innaccurate ;P CS is not Dota. The only role someone can have is during particular tactic, like 1 guy buys only granades or something like that. I wasn't actively following CS for few years but from what i've seen nothing really changed in that regard. Gogo Virtus Pro! | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10168 Posts
On April 19 2014 19:43 Souma wrote: Titan are just not the same on LAN as they are online. You see some really silly mistakes coming out from them that are just very uncharacteristic. I like watching online matches, but when it comes to real competition, LAN is the only thing that matters in CS imho. | ||
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
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Chezus
Netherlands427 Posts
On April 20 2014 02:50 DinoToss wrote: what a blunder from GR I can't believe that just happened... That just cost them the match | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
theorycrafting: is it possible to buy multiple smokes on one person or is it limited to just one per person? asking because it occured to me that maybe you could (don't know if it would be useful in any way) throw smokes, go back to spawn, buy some more etc until buy timer runs out. maybe it could create some nice opportunity (although doubt it). | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
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Tosstriss
Canada334 Posts
On April 20 2014 02:54 Kotreb wrote: Yup. Went for flashy play, got punished :/ theorycrafting: is it possible to buy multiple smokes on one person or is it limited to just one per person? asking because it occured to me that maybe you could (don't know if it would be useful in any way) throw smokes, go back to spawn, buy some more etc until buy timer runs out. maybe it could create some nice opportunity (although doubt it). You were able to buy multiple smokes not anymore. Now it's limited to 1 smoke per person. | ||
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