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jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
February 14 2013 18:52 GMT
#4521
On February 15 2013 02:19 GrimmJ wrote:
I actually have no idea which pistol I should use, after this patch.

For the pistol round, assuming that you aim for the head, either stick with Glock/P2000 or buy the Elites. Nothing else is an improvement against unarmoured targets.

The FiveSeven is the best eco pistol now, but it's questionable whether that or the P250 are worth the money. Given that headshot + bodyshot is a lot easier than two headshots, I'd say they probably are. The Tec9 is awful unless you can't aim.

TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
February 14 2013 20:07 GMT
#4522


Lol.

Basically a video upset about deagle changes. Then shows the absurdity of the glock.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 19 2013 01:41 GMT
#4523
They really need to do something for CT's in pistol round, it's pretty much a free win for T
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 19 2013 01:59 GMT
#4524
no, it wouldn't be balanced if T doesn't have an advantage in pistol round. almost all the maps are ct favored.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 19 2013 02:00 GMT
#4525
On February 19 2013 10:59 rei wrote:
no, it wouldn't be balanced if T doesn't have an advantage in pistol round. almost all the maps are ct favored.

An advantage is fine, a free win isn't. Nothing can compete with the glock, that's the problem.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 19 2013 02:04 GMT
#4526
no one can buy helmet in the pistol round, headshots will kill in one shot with any pistol right? most ppl at high level always goes for headshots, i think it's fine, but i do like more choices, especially make deagle better.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
February 19 2013 02:14 GMT
#4527
On February 19 2013 11:04 rei wrote:
no one can buy helmet in the pistol round, headshots will kill in one shot with any pistol right? most ppl at high level always goes for headshots, i think it's fine, but i do like more choices, especially make deagle better.


Most pistol rounds don't end in 5 shots. There's a reason for that. They almost always turn into a shootout. Definitely my favorite rounds of the entire game. Each side might get one or two kills initially and then the bullet storm starts. That's where the glock outshines the CT pistol by a mile.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 19 2013 02:20 GMT
#4528
it is true, it's about positioning, ct has position advantage, but they can't kill all 5 before they have to reload, i would think T can overpower a bombsite given evenly skilled players and plant the bomb and it will turn into T's favor from that point on.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
February 19 2013 02:24 GMT
#4529
i play a lot of valve matchmaking and i would argue

low elo pugs = T side guaranteed pistol win
higher elo pugs = more 50/50

Efekkt
Profile Joined August 2012
United States68 Posts
February 19 2013 02:27 GMT
#4530
On February 15 2013 05:07 TheRabidDeer wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avZCF36DR1Y

Lol.

Basically a video upset about deagle changes. Then shows the absurdity of the glock.

This is hilarious. I agree though, right now the there is no reason to even pick the gun.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19269 Posts
February 19 2013 04:10 GMT
#4531
On February 19 2013 11:04 rei wrote:
no one can buy helmet in the pistol round, headshots will kill in one shot with any pistol right? most ppl at high level always goes for headshots, i think it's fine, but i do like more choices, especially make deagle better.

Glock has way better falloff damage than any of the CT options.
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Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
February 19 2013 09:15 GMT
#4532
I'd be fine with the glock's current state if defusal kits were 200$ again.

Aside from that, I feel its reasonably fair. It does make fast rushes on pistol round very effective for T's, but aside from that I think its balanced. People just need to realize the potential of the p2000. It's has a very accurate single shot.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
February 19 2013 11:34 GMT
#4533
On February 19 2013 18:15 Maedi wrote:
I'd be fine with the glock's current state if defusal kits were 200$ again.

Aside from that, I feel its reasonably fair. It does make fast rushes on pistol round very effective for T's, but aside from that I think its balanced. People just need to realize the potential of the p2000. It's has a very accurate single shot.

Yeah, the P2000 is slightly more accurate than the Glock at any fire rate, although the recoil makes it inferior for pure spamming. Essentially it's a better headshot gun up to ~1700 range.

What really made the Glock overpowered in the 23/1 patch was burst mode, but that got nerfed so hard in the last patch that I think spamming is now better in almost all situations. It's still a bit better than the P2000 overall, but the natural CT imbalance may swing it.

I'm pretty sure Valve are using game statistics for balancing, but it bothers me that the starting point makes no sense: The Glock has higher damage per shot but much lower recoil. The logical thing would be to give the Glock a generally higher accurate fire rate (reduced InaccuracyFire), lower damage and headshot range and maybe slightly lower base accuracy.

Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
February 19 2013 19:26 GMT
#4534
What's also interesting to me is that people were saying that the glock was really imbalanced (I've been playing very little lately) but it felt great to me, like it was in 1.6. I never really thought the glock was broken, I just thought every other gun just felt bad.

Like, if they kept the glock's burst in that current state and gave us back the USP ((and 200$ kits!!)), it would basically be how it was in 1.6.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 20:56:53
February 19 2013 20:56 GMT
#4535
On February 20 2013 04:26 Maedi wrote:
What's also interesting to me is that people were saying that the glock was really imbalanced (I've been playing very little lately) but it felt great to me, like it was in 1.6. I never really thought the glock was broken, I just thought every other gun just felt bad.

Like, if they kept the glock's burst in that current state and gave us back the USP ((and 200$ kits!!)), it would basically be how it was in 1.6.


The glock was kinda weak in 1.6. It definitely wasn't as good as the USP or Deagle.
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
February 19 2013 21:05 GMT
#4536
On February 20 2013 05:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:26 Maedi wrote:
What's also interesting to me is that people were saying that the glock was really imbalanced (I've been playing very little lately) but it felt great to me, like it was in 1.6. I never really thought the glock was broken, I just thought every other gun just felt bad.

Like, if they kept the glock's burst in that current state and gave us back the USP ((and 200$ kits!!)), it would basically be how it was in 1.6.


The glock was kinda weak in 1.6. It definitely wasn't as good as the USP or Deagle.


The difference being armor + glock vs usp/kit/nades. Should've emphasized that.
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
February 23 2013 08:25 GMT
#4537
stacked LAN starting tonight and going on all weekend

http://www.hltv.org/news/10043-mad-catz-viewers-guide



GO NA`VI
apes
Profile Joined October 2011
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 15:51:08
February 23 2013 15:45 GMT
#4538
verygames really pooping the bed since scream joined
Tosstriss
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada334 Posts
February 23 2013 18:52 GMT
#4539
The matchmaking so bad. 3 stars vs some people with an eagle or people who are unrank
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
February 24 2013 02:57 GMT
#4540
that's what happens when you queue as a group.
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