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heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
August 18 2012 14:25 GMT
#2541
I played this game only 5 hours so far, because for some weird reason I couldn't hit shit in this game. It was really frustrating, since I have probably ~500 played hours of 1.6 in my life (I know that's not that much for people who really loved 1.6, but I think it's more than I played SC2, for example).

So then I noticed the options menu not only had mouse acceleration, but had it enabled by default.

lol.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
August 18 2012 14:28 GMT
#2542
On August 18 2012 23:25 heishe wrote:
I played this game only 5 hours so far, because for some weird reason I couldn't hit shit in this game. It was really frustrating, since I have probably ~500 played hours of 1.6 in my life (I know that's not that much for people who really loved 1.6, but I think it's more than I played SC2, for example).

So then I noticed the options menu not only had mouse acceleration, but had it enabled by default.

lol.


Yup I agree the mouse acceleration on by default surprised to say the least, and I agree the models are not great, but the game is really fun to play, played 10 hours so far, having a lot of fun
YoloStar <3
SpavaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Croatia175 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 14:49:02
August 18 2012 14:46 GMT
#2543
How will the matchmaking change with time: Are there any official announcements? What is your opinion?

What do you think about this idea: Matchmaking which takes a couple of ideas from DotA 2: The game starts as a 5vs5, and if somebody leaves he gets a "can't queue in to matchmaking" penalty, lasting, for example, 2 days.

I'm unsure about the number of the rounds, but it would be set up so one matchmaking game lasts between 30 and 60 minutes, so you can expect no leavers in most matches.

If you have to quit:

DotA 2 has no "you can't play" penalty, but it puts you in a queue with other leavers / reported players, while CS:GO has community servers, so I think a "can't play" penalty is more justified. I propose a two day matchmaking ban for people who quit a game. ELO (or whatever the system is) points are rewarded only for finished matches (one sided matches will be over fast anyway).

(this is only a idea, a 1.0 version of it )

Possible problems:

Somebody disconnected one round before the end of the match and I got no ELO points! I'm pi$$ed off!
- this could be fixed with tweaking the system, IF it is a problem that often happens

I constantly get matched with 4 baddies that lower my ELO! The system sucks!
- this is probably just your perception. You notice bad players more often in your team then you notice them when you put a bullet in their head.
aka imagiNe... "What if Nydus worms could make my coffee, play 2v2 and close threads for me? That would be grand." - riptide
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
August 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#2544
On August 18 2012 23:46 SpavaM wrote:
How will the matchmaking change with time: Are there any official announcements? What is your opinion?

What do you think about this idea: Matchmaking which takes a couple of ideas from DotA 2: The game starts as a 5vs5, and if somebody leaves he gets a "can't queue in to matchmaking" penalty, lasting, for example, 2 days.

I'm unsure about the number of the rounds, but it would be set up so one matchmaking game lasts between 30 and 60 minutes, so you can expect no leavers in most matches.

If you have to quit:

DotA 2 has no "you can't play" penalty, but it puts you in a queue with other leavers / reported players, while CS:GO has community servers, so I think a "can't play" penalty is more justified. I propose a two day matchmaking ban for people who quit a game. ELO (or whatever the system is) points are rewarded only for finished matches (one sided matches will be over fast anyway).

(this is only a idea, a 1.0 version of it )

Possible problems:

Somebody disconnected one round before the end of the match and I got no ELO points! I'm pi$$ed off!
- this could be fixed with tweaking the system, IF it is a problem that often happens

I constantly get matched with 4 baddies that lower my ELO! The system sucks!
- this is probably just your perception. You notice bad players more often in your team then you notice them when you put a bullet in their head.


2 Days is way too harsh, IF there is going to be a timed penalty id say 5-30 minutes would be adequate. However, i think that losing a good chunk of elo would be a better route.I for one have a connection with a mid of its own which likes to restart itself, and i would be quite upset if i got banned for 2 days.

If someone disconnects, im pretty sure you would still get ELO, not them.

Teammates will be teammates, just do your best to communicate and help them out. Do you best not to rage and it'll be fine. Like you said, if you get baddies chances are there are baddies on the other end as well. Either that or you are delusional and you are the baddie.

Im more wondering how elo is going to work when i matchmake with say 2 other friends as opposed to 5. I would be pretty upset if i had a full team of randoms and got stomped by a set of 3 and 2 friends who play with each other a lot and lose the same elo i would otherwise, that just wouldn't be fair. (starcraft im looking at you)
Living the liefe
Sooooil
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 16:43:52
August 18 2012 16:06 GMT
#2545
For everyone that can't play this game because they have an AMD FX processor like me:
If you have a Gigabyte motherboard, they're is an easy idiot-proof way to update your BIOS. I just did this myself and it finally works.

Read the second post.

Fortunately Gigabyte Motherboard have this feature called TouchBIOS which is just a little program that updates your BIOS for you.



EDIT: So I just finished testing a little Deathmatch.

First thoughts:
I don't like the lack of silencers.
I don't know what this zeus thing is or what it exactly does but it seemed as if it kills with one shot on close distance ( kinda like a second knife.)
The M4 isn't impressing me. I like the AK47 waaaayyy more
The blur, the first moment you zoom in, is annoying....
The sounds sound a little bit to "metalic" for my taste.
The goddamn CT's are wearing these hats
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
August 18 2012 17:04 GMT
#2546
On August 19 2012 00:17 Soulstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 23:46 SpavaM wrote:
How will the matchmaking change with time: Are there any official announcements? What is your opinion?

What do you think about this idea: Matchmaking which takes a couple of ideas from DotA 2: The game starts as a 5vs5, and if somebody leaves he gets a "can't queue in to matchmaking" penalty, lasting, for example, 2 days.

I'm unsure about the number of the rounds, but it would be set up so one matchmaking game lasts between 30 and 60 minutes, so you can expect no leavers in most matches.

If you have to quit:

DotA 2 has no "you can't play" penalty, but it puts you in a queue with other leavers / reported players, while CS:GO has community servers, so I think a "can't play" penalty is more justified. I propose a two day matchmaking ban for people who quit a game. ELO (or whatever the system is) points are rewarded only for finished matches (one sided matches will be over fast anyway).

(this is only a idea, a 1.0 version of it )

Possible problems:

Somebody disconnected one round before the end of the match and I got no ELO points! I'm pi$$ed off!
- this could be fixed with tweaking the system, IF it is a problem that often happens

I constantly get matched with 4 baddies that lower my ELO! The system sucks!
- this is probably just your perception. You notice bad players more often in your team then you notice them when you put a bullet in their head.


2 Days is way too harsh, IF there is going to be a timed penalty id say 5-30 minutes would be adequate. However, i think that losing a good chunk of elo would be a better route.I for one have a connection with a mid of its own which likes to restart itself, and i would be quite upset if i got banned for 2 days.

If someone disconnects, im pretty sure you would still get ELO, not them.

Teammates will be teammates, just do your best to communicate and help them out. Do you best not to rage and it'll be fine. Like you said, if you get baddies chances are there are baddies on the other end as well. Either that or you are delusional and you are the baddie.

Im more wondering how elo is going to work when i matchmake with say 2 other friends as opposed to 5. I would be pretty upset if i had a full team of randoms and got stomped by a set of 3 and 2 friends who play with each other a lot and lose the same elo i would otherwise, that just wouldn't be fair. (starcraft im looking at you)

ELO is a skill rating. You do not suddenly become less skilled at CS after leaving a game.

Your idea makes zero sense.
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 17:28:28
August 18 2012 17:23 GMT
#2547
On August 19 2012 02:04 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 00:17 Soulstice wrote:
On August 18 2012 23:46 SpavaM wrote:
How will the matchmaking change with time: Are there any official announcements? What is your opinion?

What do you think about this idea: Matchmaking which takes a couple of ideas from DotA 2: The game starts as a 5vs5, and if somebody leaves he gets a "can't queue in to matchmaking" penalty, lasting, for example, 2 days.

I'm unsure about the number of the rounds, but it would be set up so one matchmaking game lasts between 30 and 60 minutes, so you can expect no leavers in most matches.

If you have to quit:

DotA 2 has no "you can't play" penalty, but it puts you in a queue with other leavers / reported players, while CS:GO has community servers, so I think a "can't play" penalty is more justified. I propose a two day matchmaking ban for people who quit a game. ELO (or whatever the system is) points are rewarded only for finished matches (one sided matches will be over fast anyway).

(this is only a idea, a 1.0 version of it )

Possible problems:

Somebody disconnected one round before the end of the match and I got no ELO points! I'm pi$$ed off!
- this could be fixed with tweaking the system, IF it is a problem that often happens
Zero sense? i thought the point was to encourage people to not leave. People will certainly care if their elo drops a lot for leaving.

I constantly get matched with 4 baddies that lower my ELO! The system sucks!
- this is probably just your perception. You notice bad players more often in your team then you notice them when you put a bullet in their head.


2 Days is way too harsh, IF there is going to be a timed penalty id say 5-30 minutes would be adequate. However, i think that losing a good chunk of elo would be a better route.I for one have a connection with a mid of its own which likes to restart itself, and i would be quite upset if i got banned for 2 days.

If someone disconnects, im pretty sure you would still get ELO, not them.

Teammates will be teammates, just do your best to communicate and help them out. Do you best not to rage and it'll be fine. Like you said, if you get baddies chances are there are baddies on the other end as well. Either that or you are delusional and you are the baddie.

Im more wondering how elo is going to work when i matchmake with say 2 other friends as opposed to 5. I would be pretty upset if i had a full team of randoms and got stomped by a set of 3 and 2 friends who play with each other a lot and lose the same elo i would otherwise, that just wouldn't be fair. (starcraft im looking at you)

ELO is a skill rating. You do not suddenly become less skilled at CS after leaving a game.

Your idea makes zero sense.

It makes perfect sense, actually. People who want to do well with most certainly care about their elo. And if it gets dropped drastically for leaving, they wont leave if they dont want to get matched with baddies.
And with your logic, just because someone has a higher elo than you they are automatically better than you. That is obviously not true. Elo is a good indication of skill, but it is far from absolute.
Living the liefe
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 17:40:50
August 18 2012 17:34 GMT
#2548
Nope, your idea makes zero sense. People that want to do well isn't going to care about their ELO because the ladder(s) isn't even ELO based. If the ladders remain the same (total stars, total wins, KDR, etc) then you are effectively rewarding the leaver by lowering their ELO. Your idea would only make sense if our ELO was visible and shown as a number or letter (not stupid military rank) and the ladder was based on it.
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
August 18 2012 17:43 GMT
#2549
On August 19 2012 02:34 skyR wrote:
Nope, your idea makes zero sense. People that want to do well isn't going to care about their ELO because the ladder(s) isn't even ELO based. If the ladders remain the same (total stars, total wins, KDR, etc) then you are effectively rewarding the leaver by lowering their ELO. Your idea would only make sense if our ELO was visible and shown as a number or letter (not stupid military rank) and the ladder was based on it.

I was under the impression it was going to be very similar to LoL elo, if not then i take back what i said. But if i it determines opponents/teammates i stand by it.
Living the liefe
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 18 2012 17:52 GMT
#2550
On August 19 2012 02:43 Soulstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 02:34 skyR wrote:
Nope, your idea makes zero sense. People that want to do well isn't going to care about their ELO because the ladder(s) isn't even ELO based. If the ladders remain the same (total stars, total wins, KDR, etc) then you are effectively rewarding the leaver by lowering their ELO. Your idea would only make sense if our ELO was visible and shown as a number or letter (not stupid military rank) and the ladder was based on it.

I was under the impression it was going to be very similar to LoL elo, if not then i take back what i said. But if i it determines opponents/teammates i stand by it.


It makes zero sense because then you'll have the same thing you have in sc2. Masters league players stomping the shit out of bronzies for the lols. Except it'd be in counter strike.
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
August 18 2012 17:57 GMT
#2551
On August 19 2012 02:52 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 02:43 Soulstice wrote:
On August 19 2012 02:34 skyR wrote:
Nope, your idea makes zero sense. People that want to do well isn't going to care about their ELO because the ladder(s) isn't even ELO based. If the ladders remain the same (total stars, total wins, KDR, etc) then you are effectively rewarding the leaver by lowering their ELO. Your idea would only make sense if our ELO was visible and shown as a number or letter (not stupid military rank) and the ladder was based on it.

I was under the impression it was going to be very similar to LoL elo, if not then i take back what i said. But if i it determines opponents/teammates i stand by it.


It makes zero sense because then you'll have the same thing you have in sc2. Masters league players stomping the shit out of bronzies for the lols. Except it'd be in counter strike.

I see what you mean, but theres nothing developers can do about the integrity of its users, shitheads will be shitheads no matter what happens.
Living the liefe
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 18 2012 18:12 GMT
#2552
anyone getting that problem when you start a new match and on the screen your clicking doesn't work, because it's not registering the mouse? I can't join teams, and i keep trying to alt-tab in or w.e, nothing seems to work, i keep restarting the game because of this.
liftlift > tsm
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 18 2012 18:15 GMT
#2553
On August 19 2012 03:12 wei2coolman wrote:
anyone getting that problem when you start a new match and on the screen your clicking doesn't work, because it's not registering the mouse? I can't join teams, and i keep trying to alt-tab in or w.e, nothing seems to work, i keep restarting the game because of this.


Only happened to me once (think it was caused by me being alt tabbed during load process?). Had to relaunch the game to fix it -_-
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 18 2012 18:15 GMT
#2554
Ugh, it's so annoying. I got 2 monitors~, what's the point of having 2 monitors if i can't alt-tab without disturbing the game. freaking valve.
liftlift > tsm
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 18 2012 18:16 GMT
#2555
On August 19 2012 03:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Ugh, it's so annoying. I got 2 monitors~, what's the point of having 2 monitors if i can't alt-tab without disturbing the game. freaking valve.


Dude it's a beta version. Just report it.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 18 2012 18:18 GMT
#2556
On August 19 2012 03:16 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 03:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Ugh, it's so annoying. I got 2 monitors~, what's the point of having 2 monitors if i can't alt-tab without disturbing the game. freaking valve.


Dude it's a beta version. Just report it.

It's essentially a the released product >.>, 3 days till release........
liftlift > tsm
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 18 2012 18:20 GMT
#2557
On August 19 2012 02:57 Soulstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 02:52 Infernal_dream wrote:
On August 19 2012 02:43 Soulstice wrote:
On August 19 2012 02:34 skyR wrote:
Nope, your idea makes zero sense. People that want to do well isn't going to care about their ELO because the ladder(s) isn't even ELO based. If the ladders remain the same (total stars, total wins, KDR, etc) then you are effectively rewarding the leaver by lowering their ELO. Your idea would only make sense if our ELO was visible and shown as a number or letter (not stupid military rank) and the ladder was based on it.

I was under the impression it was going to be very similar to LoL elo, if not then i take back what i said. But if i it determines opponents/teammates i stand by it.


It makes zero sense because then you'll have the same thing you have in sc2. Masters league players stomping the shit out of bronzies for the lols. Except it'd be in counter strike.

I see what you mean, but theres nothing developers can do about the integrity of its users, shitheads will be shitheads no matter what happens.


Which is the point we are trying to make. There's nothing you can do about it, so just leave it be. Certain games give you all the deaths with none of the kills (gears of war 3) when you leave but even that doesn't stop people. You just gotta deal with it and hope your next team is better.
inkei
Profile Joined July 2012
3 Posts
August 18 2012 18:23 GMT
#2558
On August 19 2012 03:12 wei2coolman wrote:
anyone getting that problem when you start a new match and on the screen your clicking doesn't work, because it's not registering the mouse? I can't join teams, and i keep trying to alt-tab in or w.e, nothing seems to work, i keep restarting the game because of this.


I've had the same problem a few times. I noticed that after the game loads if I hit the continue button in the 5 second window the issue doesn't occur but if I just wait out the time then I can't click on the game and join a team so i'm forced to restart the game.
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
August 18 2012 18:51 GMT
#2559
On August 19 2012 03:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Ugh, it's so annoying. I got 2 monitors~, what's the point of having 2 monitors if i can't alt-tab without disturbing the game. freaking valve.

I got 2 monitors and I can normally alt tab O_O
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
August 18 2012 18:56 GMT
#2560
On August 19 2012 03:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Ugh, it's so annoying. I got 2 monitors~, what's the point of having 2 monitors if i can't alt-tab without disturbing the game. freaking valve.
I switched to Windowed Fullscreen and it works perfectly. Maybe you could give that a try?
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