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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
Shock Nova has really nice dps but its a bitch to aim  Mathil is australian so i bet his ping is very low(GGG is based out of New Zealand). Shock nova is almost impossible to aim properly though if you have any kind of ping delay (Shock nova doesnt hit monsters in the center of the ring, aka...right next to you). And yes Mathil is a good player. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On March 19 2015 09:16 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: The highest damage ignite overrides the previous ignite. So I'm not sure what you mean? I'm probably just misunderstanding. Unless youre simply making the argument for assassins mark over flammability. In which case you are correct  But its not like you have to worry about igniting with non crit because when you do crit , youll reignite for the higher dmg.try playing a trapper without taking clever construction where your traps get shot down easily (dont try to argue this shit, you will know it when u play trapper) and with a storage limit of 3 with 1s regen. you will want to restrict your normal ignite to 5%. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On March 19 2015 08:10 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I'm not sure of any data for boss resistances apparently theres some data mined for atziri/uber atziri area atziri uber atziri click on the links like area and maps to check out other bosses too. you can see that their default resist isnt really high | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On March 19 2015 11:09 Probemicro wrote: apparently theres some data mined for atziri/uber atziri area atziri uber atziri click on the links like area and maps to check out other bosses too. you can see that their default resist isnt really high Resists not being high isn't a good thing for elemental weakness either. If you're using elemental weakness on a 50% resistance map boss then you're only getting 38% more damage from elemental weakness and lower resistances make this number even worse. You need the majority of the resists in the 60-80 range for elemental weakness to outdamage my previous assassin's mark calculation. On March 19 2015 10:55 Probemicro wrote: try playing a trapper without taking clever construction where your traps get shot down easily (dont try to argue this shit, you will know it when u play trapper) and with a storage limit of 3 with 1s regen. you will want to restrict your normal ignite to 5%. I suggest reading up on how chance to ignite works. Comparing it to clever construction is an absurd comparison that makes zero sense. Without clever construction you're throwing traps that get destroyed and do zero damage. Additional chance to ignite doesn't decrease your damage. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On March 19 2015 11:17 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Resists not being high isn't a good thing for elemental weakness either. If you're using elemental weakness on a 50% resistance map boss then you're only getting 38% more damage from elemental weakness and lower resistances make this number even worse. You need the majority of the resists in the 60-80 range for elemental weakness to outdamage my previous assassin's mark calculation. I'd also suggest reading up on how chance to ignite works. Comparing it to clever construction is an absurd comparison that makes zero sense. Without clever construction you're throwing traps that get destroyed and do zero damage. Additional chance to ignite doesn't decrease your damage. im not arguing for ele weakness over assasin's mark lol, just showing data. when your traps keep getting destroyed you are going to be set to 0 traps and forced to wait for 1s regen. you dont wannt some inflated normal ignite chance to muck with your crit chance when you are waiting for that lucky 1-2 trap hit when 10 arcers shooting at you. instead of being foolish to use flammability for crit trap, why not just use assasin mark+ele weakness and spare the trouble, not matter how insignificantly it seem. Optimisation. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On March 19 2015 11:23 Probemicro wrote: im not arguing for ele weakness over assasin's mark lol, just showing data. when your traps keep getting destroyed you are going to be set to 0 traps and forced to wait for 1s regen. you dont wannt some inflated normal ignite chance to muck with your crit chance when you are waiting for that lucky 1-2 trap hit when 10 arcers shooting at you. instead of being foolish to use flammability for crit trap, why not just use assasin mark+ele weakness and spare the trouble, not matter how insignificantly it seem. Optimisation. My point is that ignite chance is only rolled on non-crits. Increasing your ignite chance does not do what you're suggesting. You would be foolish to use flammability because it is a damage loss compared to other options, but it doesn't decrease your damage as your posts suggest. Ignite chance does not make you roll fewer crits. These checks are only done for non-crits because crits always apply status aliments. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On March 19 2015 11:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: My point is that ignite chance is only rolled on non-crits. Increasing your ignite chance does not do what you're suggesting. You would be foolish to use flammability because it is a damage loss compared to other options, but it doesn't decrease your damage as your posts suggest. Ignite chance does not make you roll fewer crits. These checks are only done for non-crits because crits always apply status aliments. regular chance to ignite is explicitly stated to be rolled on a per hit basis, not rolled when non-crit. i assume this "hit" can be crit or non-crit since that was not mentioned. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On March 19 2015 12:10 Probemicro wrote: regular chance to ignite is explicitly stated to be rolled on a per hit basis, not rolled when non-crit. i assume this "hit" can be crit or non-crit since that was not mentioned. I can't prove that this doesn't happen besides saying it would be pointless and a waste of resources. Any hit that crits applies the status effect so rolling the chance to apply said status effect doesn't make sense when you crit. I'm also not sure how this gives you less chance to crit regardless. Whether it works my way or the other way is irrelevant to the fact that ignite chance doesn't decrease your crit chance. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
the crit roll occurs first if it's a crit, then an ignite occurs. Whether an additional "chance to ignite" roll occurs (which it doesn't) is utterly immaterial because there's already an ignite. The ignite takes the damage dealt by the spell, which includes the critical multiplier if it was a crit, and bases the burn damage off of that. its very simple. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On March 19 2015 12:25 Sn0_Man wrote: Whether an additional "chance to ignite" roll occurs (which it doesn't) is utterly immaterial because there's already an ignite. the normal ignite can overwrite it. normal ignite chance is rolled on a per hit basis, meaning it is rolled AFTER crit chance which is on a per cast basis. the "multiple applications are not stacked cumulatively, higher ignite applies" do not apply here since there is no ignited monsters yet until after the normal ignite chance is rolled! | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On March 19 2015 12:36 Probemicro wrote: the normal ignite can overwrite it. normal ignite chance is rolled on a per hit basis, meaning it is rolled AFTER crit chance which is on a per cast basis. the "multiple applications are not stacked cumulatively, higher ignite applies" do not apply here since there is no ignited monsters yet until after the normal ignite chance is rolled! The ignite is based on the damage that was done by the spell or weapon attack which in the case of a crit is a high value. There is no such thing as rolling another ignite using some other damage that doesn't involve the crit. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
I think I'm going to play in the 1 month hardcore event, what's a good build now-a-days? | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On March 19 2015 16:38 illsick wrote: I haven't played PoE in awhile and rippedt today on my level 85 character that I had in hardcore. My HP feels super low from when I used to remember after I put in my skill points. What is considered moderate HP in hardcore, I feel like the values have changed or something. I stopped playing before the forsaken masters stuff. I think I'm going to play in the 1 month hardcore event, what's a good build now-a-days? HP values decreased a bit but not much. A softcore build works fine at like 130-150% life, so I'd assume HC is 160%-200%+ depending on what you do. Like a totem user will get hit much less than a melee char who needs a lot more life. If you wanna play with spells, Probemicro summed up lately which spells are good/decent and which ones are unbearable: On March 17 2015 21:06 Probemicro wrote: Spell categories IMO as a spellcaster fanatic + Show Spoiler + FOTM/Excellent Arc Flameblast Fire Trap Incinerate Discharge SRS (i consider this as spell not minion) Decent Ball Lightning Glacial cascade Ice Nova Shockwave Totem Flame totem RF/flame surge Tendrils Storm call Okish/CoC shit Arctic Breath Detonate Dead Freeze pulse EK Fireball Firestorm Lightning Trap Spark ice Spear Desecrate Searing bond Support/niche Frost wall freeze mine cold snap Lightning warp smoke mine molten shell AY LMAO Shock Nova If you go with bows, Tornado Shot is FOTM but Split Arrow and Ice Shot paired with Puncture work very well too. Melee is still by far the least popular and I can't really help you there. For Hardcore it'll probably be too dangerous anyways unless you have done it a LOT of times already. Choose a skill and do your build or if you're too unexperienced and want to be good right away then google builds, there are more or less good ones (and HC viable ones(!)) depending on the skill. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
I might try out the new skills like tornado shot (or even Ice shot). | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Those 1 month race rewards though... | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
I prefer those prizes over a raffle where I end up getting nothing. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
But if you can skip 6 of them, it's easy. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On March 20 2015 02:39 Sn0_Man wrote: those challenges look awfully easy for softcore lol and awfully impossible for hardcore, at least completing the boss one. My OCD will not allow me to use armor unless I have the full set  On March 20 2015 02:42 Sn0_Man wrote: i mean i ground a char to 88 or some shit and never met 2 spirits that challenge was LOL stupid as FUCK There always seems to be some super rare element. Abaxoth spawns last league. Inner Treasure in Nemesis. Divine Shrine back in Dominion league. etc etc | ||
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