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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 26 2014 12:24 GMT
#14501
Lavianga's is good for a MoM AA trapper, since mana cost of skills is so insane high, I am pretty dissapointed with the rewards this season though, Thief's Torment is really the only item in there I am interested in having, aside from headhunter, and I just don't have the free time to make 1000 points in a race reason.

I wonder why the rewards are so toned down this round, its not like we can pull the items out in the first 2 weeks.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 14:35:15
March 26 2014 13:22 GMT
#14502
Race rewards got nerf to the ground, except the 15-20 Elite ppl who can make it to 1000. Starkonja's Head alternate art seems like a decent candidate for skin transfer, but other than that, meh.

Last season rewards introduction was hell of a hype. League only Unique at 80, that sexy Andvarius, Meginord is solid and omg Ming's Heart not even at 1000 wahhh.

Looking at season it's meh meh and meh =/. The Thief's Torments is also rly not appeal to me that much, maybe if I make a cycloner or SA ranger, but then the stats itself is kinda sucks regardless =/

Also anyone has the Blackgleam and Prismatic Eclipse item display screw up in the race season page ?
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 18:01:07
March 26 2014 17:47 GMT
#14503
I mean.. I'll race this season for fun, but i'm not sure how hard i'm gonna push for the rewards. I was kinda hoping we would get ungil gauche alt art this season because they added art for it in a patch a while ago, but it's never been released which kinda confused me. I still wanna win some of those demis though. :p
Does anyone wanna make a serious team for racing this season in party races? Like practicing, designated roles, good communication and planning, etc? Personally I need to practice flameblast as witch, or switch to shadow. (flameblast is > storm call now, but it's still the best strat for Shadow afaik. Also for any race that progresses to Cruel, I think all the caster classes will add on Searing Bond.)

Edit: Btw, I forgot the name of who borrowed it in the guild, but I need my IIQ gem back whenever you get a chance.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 27 2014 06:37 GMT
#14504
Last season I totally skipped racing because I was sort of bored of PoE. I might be in for this one again. I really want Thief's Torment, hehe. Otherwise nothing I really want. But getting 220 points is gonna be hard enough anyway, although I'm confident that I could do it. It would just mean that I need to participate at many races, which I don't know yet if I can do it. But hopefully.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
March 27 2014 16:29 GMT
#14505
On March 27 2014 02:47 Varanice wrote:
I mean.. I'll race this season for fun, but i'm not sure how hard i'm gonna push for the rewards. I was kinda hoping we would get ungil gauche alt art this season because they added art for it in a patch a while ago, but it's never been released which kinda confused me. I still wanna win some of those demis though. :p
Does anyone wanna make a serious team for racing this season in party races? Like practicing, designated roles, good communication and planning, etc? Personally I need to practice flameblast as witch, or switch to shadow. (flameblast is > storm call now, but it's still the best strat for Shadow afaik. Also for any race that progresses to Cruel, I think all the caster classes will add on Searing Bond.)

Edit: Btw, I forgot the name of who borrowed it in the guild, but I need my IIQ gem back whenever you get a chance.


When points aren't the main consideration, I've actually had more memorable races in the team format. I need to take a look at the race calendar before committing to anything, but I like the idea of doing team races with a well-organized group. Maybe we can start talking roles once we see how much interest there is.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 18:01:32
March 27 2014 17:28 GMT
#14506
So who will be up for the 3 hour party race tomorrow? (S07C002)

Im trying to make a tree for racing as Shadow with Storm Call, but asides from the first 10 nodes or so, the Shadow tree seems pretty terrible for SC.

Progression for shadow SC tree:
Level 12 + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBE54mlVVLfjOMNqSRtDjVT9535Rn79Q==

Theres just stat nodes to the north, crit to the east, and useless nodes to the south. (Crit nodes add less than 1 dps per node because its impossible to stack enough crit to make it worth it in a race.) Not sure where the most optimal place to go after here is.
Level 21: 1 hour race tree: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBDkgTnhXnJpVVS13yYqxzs34zjDadqqIupJG0ONVP1p3ed-UZ8Gv79Q==

Level 32: 2 hour race tree:+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBDkgRlhOeFecW8yQ8JjwmlSepL51JUVVLWm1d8mKsc7N-M35Zf8aMNp2qoi6kkadctDjVT9ad3nflGfBr-_U=

Level 40: 3 hour race tree:+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBDkgRlhOeFecW8xzcHpQkPCY8JpUnqS-dNntJO0lRVUtabV3yYqxzs34zfll_xow2j_qTJ52qoi6kkadcrD-0OLSj1U_WndxX3nflGewY8Gv79Q==

At level 40, will have 24% cast speed, so I would just need 1% somewhere to be able to cast 4 stacks of SC while standing still instead of 3. (25% cast speed is the threshold that allows you to fit in a 4th stack.)

As far as gem rewards go, I only need my Hillock, Mud Flats, and Brutus in normal, and Cruel Hillock, Cruel Hailrake, So if anyone needs some gems from Shadow from any of the other quests just ask.
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
March 27 2014 17:48 GMT
#14507
On March 27 2014 02:47 Varanice wrote:
I mean.. I'll race this season for fun, but i'm not sure how hard i'm gonna push for the rewards. I was kinda hoping we would get ungil gauche alt art this season because they added art for it in a patch a while ago, but it's never been released which kinda confused me. I still wanna win some of those demis though. :p
Does anyone wanna make a serious team for racing this season in party races? Like practicing, designated roles, good communication and planning, etc? Personally I need to practice flameblast as witch, or switch to shadow. (flameblast is > storm call now, but it's still the best strat for Shadow afaik. Also for any race that progresses to Cruel, I think all the caster classes will add on Searing Bond.)

Edit: Btw, I forgot the name of who borrowed it in the guild, but I need my IIQ gem back whenever you get a chance.


Aw, that's really tempting, I do have time and could do most team races (unless late night hours for EU), but only for up to 2/3 weeks from now, after that I'm off the computer for a while.
I don't know much about races (done a couple and one in party with you actually, you're in my friend list) but can catch up quickly and I'm ready to be serious about it.

Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 17:57:49
March 27 2014 17:50 GMT
#14508
I dont think we should for this race specifically tomorrow since we havent practiced it, but we need to get a serious group together to practice 3 hour party races, we should be able to get to Cruel.
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 19:18:46
March 27 2014 19:18 GMT
#14509
Not sure if I'll do the next 3 hours, but still thinking about a Conduit Scion. It helps pretty much everyone, and can work quite well with cleave. It would give everyone 15% cast/attack speed AND damage reduction with your reward for intruder in black normal. You could get to 4 casts of SC as soon as the quest is complete.

Lvl 21:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABA5YIZzGeNZI11jrhOyhFCk3jYENuPYMJiPGmV7682E3yRfTG_gr-jw==
Lvl 32:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABA5YIZzGeMgk1kjXWOuE7KEUKRnFKyE3jW_RgQ2xGbj1uqnJsgwmI8aZXqW60DLXyvrzYTfJF9Mb-Cv6P
Lvl 40:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAdwDlhv6Jd8xnjIJNZI11jrhOyhFCkZxR35KyE3jW_RgQ2VNbEZuPW5pbqpybHgNgwmE2YjxpBmmV6lutAy18r6Kvqe-vMAP0k3yRfTG_gr-jw==

Can get quite tanky, so good frontline, but probably lacking dps-wise. As I said, I don't really know what's good for races, so any advice/comment is welcome.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 19:21:50
March 27 2014 19:20 GMT
#14510
Races are all about clear speed, that "full life circle including the +10 life node" build is wildly unviable simply because dying isn't a concern in most races.

Race builds want juuuust a few life nodes to keep them alive and then as many damage nodes as possible to push the clear speed up. Races are all about pushing the limits of how fast you can gain XP (aka kill mobs).
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
March 27 2014 19:25 GMT
#14511
Something more like this ?
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABA5YxnjIJNZI11jsoRQpN42BDbEZuPXJsgwmI8aZXqW618r689Mb-jw==
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8629 Posts
March 27 2014 19:33 GMT
#14512
On March 28 2014 02:50 Varanice wrote:
I dont think we should for this race specifically tomorrow since we havent practiced it, but we need to get a serious group together to practice 3 hour party races, we should be able to get to Cruel.


There are only 4 3 hours party races in the whole season afaik. They dramatically turned them down. There is a thread with the numbers in the race feedback forums about it.

Dunno how serious I'm going to be for the race season anyway. Havn't gotten my schedule for university yet, either.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 21:20:01
March 27 2014 21:02 GMT
#14513
On March 28 2014 04:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
Races are all about clear speed, that "full life circle including the +10 life node" build is wildly unviable simply because dying isn't a concern in most races.

Race builds want juuuust a few life nodes to keep them alive and then as many damage nodes as possible to push the clear speed up. Races are all about pushing the limits of how fast you can gain XP (aka kill mobs).

Yeah this. The only reason I get all those life nodes on that Shadow tree is because there are literally 0 dps nodes asides from the random crit nodes that do absolutely nothing useless for me, so I might as well get the life nodes because they are close by

On March 28 2014 04:18 Cynry wrote:
Not sure if I'll do the next 3 hours, but still thinking about a Conduit Scion. It helps pretty much everyone, and can work quite well with cleave. It would give everyone 15% cast/attack speed AND damage reduction with your reward for intruder in black normal. You could get to 4 casts of SC as soon as the quest is complete.

Lvl 21:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABA5YIZzGeNZI11jrhOyhFCk3jYENuPYMJiPGmV7682E3yRfTG_gr-jw==
Lvl 32:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABA5YIZzGeMgk1kjXWOuE7KEUKRnFKyE3jW_RgQ2xGbj1uqnJsgwmI8aZXqW60DLXyvrzYTfJF9Mb-Cv6P
Lvl 40:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAdwDlhv6Jd8xnjIJNZI11jrhOyhFCkZxR35KyE3jW_RgQ2VNbEZuPW5pbqpybHgNgwmE2YjxpBmmV6lutAy18r6Kvqe-vMAP0k3yRfTG_gr-jw==

Can get quite tanky, so good frontline, but probably lacking dps-wise. As I said, I don't really know what's good for races, so any advice/comment is welcome.


Conduit is useful, but im not sure its worth it in a race, Cleave is bad, also how would you be generating frenzy charges? As Scion I feel like your options are either Leap Slam +DS, ST+DS (Maybe not after the nerf?), or maaaybe flameblast but I doubt it.

Heres a decent scion tree for Leap Slam + Double Strike, if you go ST you would take the projectile nodes instead of the res nodes at the start and not take the upper part of the scion wheel. By the Blade is an absolutely insane node, and theres two really nice clusters there.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAecDlgmWJJsm-CcgMHcxnjIJNZI26DpSOyhKyE3jWK9gQ2WnbEZuPW6qcmx2K3gNgIqC5IMJhymI8YqvkBGVm6ZXqW618r684mHrCfdN_In-jw==

Also here is a 2H axe leap slam Marauder tree. I honestly think Marauder is the strongest class now with the nerfs to ST. At level 12, they have 125% physical damage from tree which easily lets them one shot mobs with a terrible weapon. I think the 3x 4% ias nodes might even be better than the 3x 10% phys nodes at the start just because of how much IPD they can get.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBAecJlg48E0whAiFVJJsm-CcgJy8s-zBPMHcx-zboOQ46UkF0Xz9lp3Yrdn97jH7gf-OAioZglZubWJ5Xn8upc8EEwaPcPeJh45_kUesJ9038iQ==
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 21:19:14
March 27 2014 21:17 GMT
#14514
oops
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 27 2014 21:19 GMT
#14515
OH GOD MY EYES
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
March 27 2014 21:19 GMT
#14516
Yeah I tried to edit a quote in and it broke my entire post. LOL
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 22:12:31
March 27 2014 22:11 GMT
#14517
how would you be generating frenzy charges?

With frenzy, maybe blood rage too in cruel.
Conduit costs only 3 points, which means trading a slightly slower kill speed for me for a notable increase to everyone else's. Seems like a good trade but I don't know, that marauder tree is a beauty of damage efficiency :D

Anyway, leap slam is a more fun alternative to cleave, so I am all up for that.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 22:25:27
March 27 2014 22:24 GMT
#14518
On March 28 2014 07:11 Cynry wrote:
Show nested quote +
how would you be generating frenzy charges?

With frenzy, maybe blood rage too in cruel.
Conduit costs only 3 points, which means trading a slightly slower kill speed for me for a notable increase to everyone else's. Seems like a good trade but I don't know, that marauder tree is a beauty of damage efficiency :D

Anyway, leap slam is a more fun alternative to cleave, so I am all up for that.

If you were really good about it, I suppose you could manually cast enduring cry to keep up charges for everyone which would be nice, but I dont think frenzy would be worth it, maybe blood rage would be decent though. Maybe you just take enduring cry as a reward and use it for yourself, but dont spec into Conduit until mid 30s I guess? Not sure
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
March 28 2014 03:04 GMT
#14519
Hm I'm not sure if I would have time to participate. Maybe the weekends race but exams are coming up. Probably will be free after April though.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 04:31:38
March 28 2014 04:28 GMT
#14520
Wow, no FBLAMT this season, i'm sad. And theres a lot less party races than usual, but more races overall I think.
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