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On March 01 2014 10:42 vndestiny wrote:
I thought it can roll an additional mod on an item/ replace an implicit (or not) and then that's it? No further modification of any kind until the end of time. That sounds pretty bad/scary tbh. You risk destroying a good item/make a normal item becomes decent. Gem lvl on the other, seems ridiculous.
It has 4 possibilities for items:
1) Just corrupt the item adding nothing
2) Add an implicit mod that has nothing to do with the item usually (e.g. life leech on boots)
3) Turn a socket white
4) Act as a Chaos orb
All of those add the "corrupted" modifier meaning the item can't be modified any further.
For skillgems:
1) Just corrupt the skillgem adding nothing.
2) Modify current level by +/-1 (so you can obtain a lvl 21 gem if you do it at lvl 20)
3) Add (or remove?) quality (can go above 20 again)
4) Create the Vaal version of the skill
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For skill gems, if a certain effect isn't achieved... a whole new level 20 gem is required to try again? O_o
Edit: I meant trying to get it to level 21.
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On March 01 2014 12:09 Hier wrote:
For skill gems, if a certain effect isn't achieved... a whole new level 20 gem is required to try again? O_o
Pretty much. :3
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by how much does it increase the quality? can u get over 20+ was there anywhere it show? for vaal orb on gems
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On March 01 2014 11:36 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 10:42 vndestiny wrote:
I thought it can roll an additional mod on an item/ replace an implicit (or not) and then that's it? No further modification of any kind until the end of time. That sounds pretty bad/scary tbh. You risk destroying a good item/make a normal item becomes decent. Gem lvl on the other, seems ridiculous. It has 4 possibilities for items: 1) Just corrupt the item adding nothing 2) Add an implicit mod that has nothing to do with the item usually (e.g. life leech on boots) 3) Turn a socket white 4) Act as a Chaos orb All of those add the "corrupted" modifier meaning the item can't be modified any further. For skillgems: 1) Just corrupt the skillgem adding nothing. 2) Modify current level by +/-1 (so you can obtain a lvl 21 gem if you do it at lvl 20) 3) Add (or remove?) quality (can go above 20 again) 4) Create the Vaal version of the skill
So much RNG for such high value items ( 20q gems cost ), I'll probably use them like Exalt ( which in my case, is never ... )
On March 01 2014 12:26 Probemicro wrote:
by how much does it increase the quality? can u get over 20+ was there anywhere it show? for vaal orb on gems
We know it can get to 23q so far
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On March 01 2014 12:26 Probemicro wrote:
by how much does it increase the quality? can u get over 20+ was there anywhere it show? for vaal orb on gems
I only saw Chris show off a 21% quality gem. For level he mentioned it is "+/-1", for quality he just said "It's possible to increase the quality". =/
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Also it's possible to get up to lvl 30 of an aura gem so far in testing.
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On March 01 2014 12:29 vndestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 11:36 r.Evo wrote:On March 01 2014 10:42 vndestiny wrote:
I thought it can roll an additional mod on an item/ replace an implicit (or not) and then that's it? No further modification of any kind until the end of time. That sounds pretty bad/scary tbh. You risk destroying a good item/make a normal item becomes decent. Gem lvl on the other, seems ridiculous. It has 4 possibilities for items: 1) Just corrupt the item adding nothing 2) Add an implicit mod that has nothing to do with the item usually (e.g. life leech on boots) 3) Turn a socket white 4) Act as a Chaos orb All of those add the "corrupted" modifier meaning the item can't be modified any further. For skillgems: 1) Just corrupt the skillgem adding nothing. 2) Modify current level by +/-1 (so you can obtain a lvl 21 gem if you do it at lvl 20) 3) Add (or remove?) quality (can go above 20 again) 4) Create the Vaal version of the skill So much RNG for such high value items ( 20q gems cost ), I'll probably use them like Exalt ( which in my case, is never ... )
What I'm not sure about is whether you can chrome/jeweler/fuse the item when it's corrupted. If not, I hope that it just turns a regular socket white and doesn't reroll them. The big drawback here is possible having the random Chaos applied.
For gems it's a lot more awkward imo. If you want the +1 level you *have* to use a lvl 20 gem and it would really suck to get one of the other results.
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Is anyone else going to just play Ambush like it's hardcore instead of bothering with Invasion? It seems like it'll be a lot more interesting.
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I'm scared and excited for the new hc leagues, exactly how it should be 
so hyped after watching all the videos
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nobody will dare to use vaal orb on godly rare equipment, the chaos orb effect may apply and ruin it. so mostly mediocre equipment, maps and gems.
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I'll be coming back for this HC league. Haven't played in a long while. Feel rusty, but overall suuuuper pumped. Can't wait.
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On March 01 2014 12:55 Probemicro wrote:
nobody will dare to use vaal orb on godly rare equipment, the chaos orb effect may apply and ruin it. so mostly mediocre equipment, maps and gems.
I think it'll probably be used on a lot of stuff with like 1 top tier mod and good combination tier 2 and 3 mods. It's honestly just another piece of currency and different people will use it different ways depending on playstyle, experience and wealth.
I think there's a good chance some of the 100 mirror guys will probably take their top 10/BIS items and throw Vaal orbs at them for shits and giggles. Many will fail, but there will probably be one or two items that just outclass anything that has existed up till that point.
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needs more eternals
you do realize they can vaal orb without risk by using eternal right? lol
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On March 01 2014 16:55 Varanice wrote:
needs more eternals
you do realize they can vaal orb without risk by using eternal right? lol
I thought it confirm that you can't ? Since you have to smash the item again with the eternal imprint, while corrupted doesnt allow that ?
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Chris hasn't mentioned eternals specifically in any of the videos I've seen, corrupted however says that it "Cannot be modified any further" so it's not 100% for either side.
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The Vaal Orb: Corrupted Items
As Atziri's influence spreads, exiles are increasingly driven by the temptation to corrupt their own equipment with Vaal Orbs. While corrupting an item can yield unpredictable and powerful results, it prevents later modification to the item (corrupted items cannot have further currency applied to them). Corruption yields one of many possible outcomes and has different effects depending on what type of item it is.
Corruption is currently the only way to obtain white sockets, certain implicit mods, gems with level or quality higher than 20, maps with eight mods, and various other exotic item states.
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Wonder how many level 3 empowers are going to get ruined trying to get a level 4, all that time spent leveling one, just to be potentially wasted.
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Am I the only one who is rather disappointed by the new leagues?
Invasion just creates artifically randomness which will slow down the pre-map progress by lightyears.
Hell imagine Summoner with Ele-Weakness while you farm Merci docks with an unique boss who shoots LA or shit.
Exiles on Merci are allready random enough and I've seen many many RIPs by offscreen LA's etcetc.
Onslaught and Nemesis felt in terms of difficulty harder than whats getting introduced now. Invasion is not harder, it is more random.
Imagine progressing (on any difficulty) through baracks/battlefront, you get shockstacked (kinda natural there) and out of screen charged by a pack of random rhoas...
Imo it hurts the competitiveness. But yea I'm gonna play straight for some days and then decide if it's worth it to stick in that league 1month+ or if i rather devote my time to Starbow.
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I wonder about Vaal Orb possibly acting 'just' like a Chaos. All we know is the item they showed us was a 'bad roll'. What if 'good rolls' exist? What if the 'good rolls' involve exotic mods like the ones appearing on the implicits, or higher tiers of current mods?
You'd still have to get your sockets and links in order before you used the vaal orb but if any of that speculation is right I'd be more on board with the whole design (high risk high reward)~
If not, I think I'd just be using vaal orbs on unique rings/amulets/belts I have multiple copies of, maybe try to get culling on a good weapon I'd already linked and is not rotting in my stash. Not the most exciting prospect.
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