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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 08 2013 15:09 GMT
#11321
Just curious, what's a tabula rasa going for these days?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 08 2013 16:08 GMT
#11322
On November 08 2013 19:18 ZoRoXo wrote:
This was pretty common pre-patch, but with the buffed weapon nodes (notice how a lot of them has extra life,armor etc) you really should decide for just one. Unless you want to change over and use double strike as your main skill, which you could, if you chose to respec iron grip, and scion projectile nodes.

There's several good spectral throw specs, and 1 thing they all have in common is settling on a specific weapon. I really think rangers have the best start, since they have no "wasted" nodes.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAOyi-vAOWguRuPZARYEOKr4MJSshuqrXyqW41kngNbEb-j6xZvopYr3JsTeOI8QHcNugyCaZX52Pi6qQZAec6Uq-iOuExnv4KYSEb-qcwMn4Q8PJFhO8l3_e-FCAUcXTthNlQRzQ4Qap6725pAyf462BLvqcB__cyBS3STXKpQKDAD6yqfNkhYJ65WfN08cEHZS_AGhjb1FLXfkpPErxmnpBVW68G7jQ1-tKnhN0NTiqXcDbpHRQaOPzFKaVjFySq42qPRmegGYXQ0Id2z2VKfVXGFm-fyw==


Is what I'm using, At 84 I have almost 17k heavy strike and 3k spectral throw, both 4linked. 5k hp, resist capped with purity (lacking 15 lightning res in town)

If I were to do it over again I'd go with something like this + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAOyi-vAOWguRuPZARYEOKr4MJSshuqrXyqW41kngNbEb-j6xZvopYr3JsTeOI8QHcNugyCaZX52Pi6qQZAec6Uq-iOuExnv4KYSEb-qcwn8uGYDJ-EPDyRYTvJd_3vhQgFHFWBHTthNlQRzQ4YVJ672VNbmkDJxuqYEtHfr6nAf-I7QUt0k1tSkCgwA-BOiFgnrl08cEHGNvUUtd-W68G7jQ13Q1OKpdw_MUppWMXVvpnoO4Oh3aj5yP273oa20p9y_Xv8NN--WMxsFpIFfDnDzpYBH6HGQ==


This could easily be a ranger spec and would have no wasted skillpoints.

My reasoning for the resist nodes is that the scion projectile nodes are weaker than any other projectile nodes on the skilltree, and I use my melee attack quite a lot, especially for bursting down bosses/corrupting blood. And extra resist is always a good thing, maybe at some point I can swap out purity with either grace or determination, even though I have about 6k armor w\o molten shell/flasks some extra is always nice, especially vs offscreen turbo charge.


If you're going with that logic you should run duelist instead. You only have to go through two melee physical nodes and one of them even gives 12 life. You won't be able to pick up Harrier, but you're saving a ton of points. It is too easy to cap resists to take inefficient points like 18% of one resistance; even the diamond skin nodes that give 12 all often get respeced once your build fills out. I do like that your build doesn't take wrecking ball though, such an overrated cluster ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
November 08 2013 16:11 GMT
#11323
I am brainstorming some crazy shit for a ranger I want to make. Basically a blender softcare character that should do some ridiculous damage. It's gonna be something like:

Cyclone > Multistrike (many attack speed) > cast on crit > etheral knives > added fire

Cast on Damage Taken > Ice Spear > GMP > Power charge on crit

Reduced Mana > Clarity > Hatred > (grace maybe can fit?)

Weapon setup dagger and shield. Something with the base crit and high phy/spell. Would get Iron Reflexes, Point Blank, Mind Drinker, and a lot of life + dagger crit nodes.

So cyclone would cast itself three times and should regen from the physical mana leech to continue using it. With multistrike it's attacking at a ridiculous speed so the cast on crit EK should proc a lot, and with point blank it should shred!?

Does this sound viable or would this just end up being a disaster? Any advice appreciated. : )
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 16:24:03
November 08 2013 16:19 GMT
#11324
I don't see how cast on crit can ever be viable. You're throwing away two spots in your six link for something cute when you could just buff up your main attack with two more support gems instead. Why use cast on crit when you can use melee physical damage and faster attacks? Seems obvious that this will result in more damage than your cyclone casting unbuffed EK because you don't have any spell nodes.

If you're going to use it then it needs to cast a curse or some other support spell so that you're casting the spell but still getting damage frames. Having enough crit to make that worthwhile seems highly unlikely though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 08 2013 16:27 GMT
#11325
On November 08 2013 19:18 ZoRoXo wrote:
This was pretty common pre-patch, but with the buffed weapon nodes (notice how a lot of them has extra life,armor etc) you really should decide for just one. Unless you want to change over and use double strike as your main skill, which you could, if you chose to respec iron grip, and scion projectile nodes.

There's several good spectral throw specs, and 1 thing they all have in common is settling on a specific weapon. I really think rangers have the best start, since they have no "wasted" nodes.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAOyi-vAOWguRuPZARYEOKr4MJSshuqrXyqW41kngNbEb-j6xZvopYr3JsTeOI8QHcNugyCaZX52Pi6qQZAec6Uq-iOuExnv4KYSEb-qcwMn4Q8PJFhO8l3_e-FCAUcXTthNlQRzQ4Qap6725pAyf462BLvqcB__cyBS3STXKpQKDAD6yqfNkhYJ65WfN08cEHZS_AGhjb1FLXfkpPErxmnpBVW68G7jQ1-tKnhN0NTiqXcDbpHRQaOPzFKaVjFySq42qPRmegGYXQ0Id2z2VKfVXGFm-fyw==


Is what I'm using, At 84 I have almost 17k heavy strike and 3k spectral throw, both 4linked. 5k hp, resist capped with purity (lacking 15 lightning res in town)

If I were to do it over again I'd go with something like this + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAOyi-vAOWguRuPZARYEOKr4MJSshuqrXyqW41kngNbEb-j6xZvopYr3JsTeOI8QHcNugyCaZX52Pi6qQZAec6Uq-iOuExnv4KYSEb-qcwn8uGYDJ-EPDyRYTvJd_3vhQgFHFWBHTthNlQRzQ4YVJ672VNbmkDJxuqYEtHfr6nAf-I7QUt0k1tSkCgwA-BOiFgnrl08cEHGNvUUtd-W68G7jQ13Q1OKpdw_MUppWMXVvpnoO4Oh3aj5yP273oa20p9y_Xv8NN--WMxsFpIFfDnDzpYBH6HGQ==


This could easily be a ranger spec and would have no wasted skillpoints.

My reasoning for the resist nodes is that the scion projectile nodes are weaker than any other projectile nodes on the skilltree, and I use my melee attack quite a lot, especially for bursting down bosses/corrupting blood. And extra resist is always a good thing, maybe at some point I can swap out purity with either grace or determination, even though I have about 6k armor w\o molten shell/flasks some extra is always nice, especially vs offscreen turbo charge.

Do you use mana leech gems or how many flasks do you drink during a fight with yellow/orange mob?
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 16:39:35
November 08 2013 16:30 GMT
#11326
Well the inspiration comes from this vid



Looks like it works good and he's running

Cyclone -> Cast on Crit -> EK -> Arc -> Life Leech

Instead of arc which will only hit three targets, I think multistrike would be more effective for more point blank point blank EKs.

EDIT: Just learned how cyclone crit works. The first hit determines the rest, so if it crits once all hits are crits. That might dampen my multistrike idea. Anyone know if each multistrike resets the chance to crit?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 08 2013 16:41 GMT
#11327
Discharge would be the spell to use if you're going to do it, but I still think you're working ten times as hard for half the damage of a normal build.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
November 08 2013 16:51 GMT
#11328
Wow looks like what I've been thinking of is already a build http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/580583

Skill tree is very similar to what I've been coming up with, too. I just didn't think to add EK more than once LOL
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2013 16:52 GMT
#11329
Well its not like cast on crit is inherently balanceable. EITHER its fucking broke as shit OR it sucks ass there isn't really a middle ground for free spells.

So I got my prism Guardian/Alpha's howl 7 aura's build going. Its pretty good. I swapped out of 2hmace (had about 10 nodes invested in mace dmg OOPS) since I have to use a shield. My dps went up by half with 0 dmg nodes now though

My only problem is i'm level 80 so I don't get many more nodes but I really need Inner force, Elemental Adaptation, Catalyze (WED in general) and a lot of life

Too many travel nodes or something. Still, really looking forward to my gems hitting level 20 though (all 15-18 atm )
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 16:54:12
November 08 2013 16:53 GMT
#11330
Rarity: Rare
Soul Nails
Ironscale Gauntlets
--------
Armour: 25
Evasion Rating: 25
--------
Requirements:
Level: 24
--------
Sockets: B
--------
Itemlevel: 30
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+17 to Dexterity
Adds 7-12 Fire Damage
+56 to maximum Life
11% increased Rarity of Items found
+23% to Cold Resistance
+22% to Lightning Resistance


these are like the best gauntlets i have ever looted in my life rofl

and ive had 2 charcs above 65
Cackle™
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 16:54:28
November 08 2013 16:54 GMT
#11331
Those are wildly out of control for level 24 lol.

Imagine attack speed over dex tho :O
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 08 2013 16:54 GMT
#11332
ikr wtf
Cackle™
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2013 16:56 GMT
#11333
Well I found a 70 spell dmg 98 spell crit (plus 40 global crit) dagger yesterday so I can't complain. Its literally a top-roll divinarius, minus being unique (and minus the 10% aoe ).

No idea wat its worth tho literally nothing else on the forums is remotely close except divinarius, but I can't really find a value to that either.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 08 2013 17:44 GMT
#11334
On November 09 2013 00:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
Just curious, what's a tabula rasa going for these days?

Saw one at 2 Ex on Domination, so I guess between 2 and 3 Exalted on Domination.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2013 17:45 GMT
#11335
Did you see it sell for 2ex? I've seen lots being offered for 2ex but I thought they were going for like 1.5ish.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 08 2013 17:48 GMT
#11336
On November 09 2013 02:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
Did you see it sell for 2ex? I've seen lots being offered for 2ex but I thought they were going for like 1.5ish.

No, so it might just as well be cheaper. Thanks for clarifying.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2013 17:50 GMT
#11337
Also I think its *less* desirable on nemesis considering the lack of life/armor it provides. Iunno. 6L is still pretty sick.
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
November 08 2013 18:46 GMT
#11338
On November 09 2013 02:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
Did you see it sell for 2ex? I've seen lots being offered for 2ex but I thought they were going for like 1.5ish.

I just bought one on SC the other day for 2 ex.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 08 2013 21:58 GMT
#11339
Like I thought, Marauders won the first race, although it was just a test. Apparently no good streamer bothered trying racing with Scion and ST.

Didn't race myself as I watch Blizzcon, though. If Scion isn't best then I except Mara to become a lot more popular as it got buffed and was already almost on par with Duelist last season.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 22:14:45
November 08 2013 22:12 GMT
#11340
On November 09 2013 06:58 HolydaKing wrote:
Like I thought, Marauders won the first race, although it was just a test. Apparently no good streamer bothered trying racing with Scion and ST.

Didn't race myself as I watch Blizzcon, though. If Scion isn't best then I except Mara to become a lot more popular as it got buffed and was already almost on par with Duelist last season.

I don't think one race is anywhere near a good enough sample size to make overall statements, but here are my predictions.
Imo from best to worst Marauder/Duelist, Scion, Templar/Ranger, Shadow, Witch
Marauder, Duelist, and Scion all get Leap Slam after Brutus which might just be the best gem hands down for short races. At the very least all of the Roccat races seemed to prove this for the 1H races. Ranger requires a bit of early luck to find an iron ring/quiver so that it can get to RoA as fast as possible, but seems to be very solid after that. Witch is almost entirely reliant on finding a +1 cold gem wand to be able to compete with the other classes (And then being able to link Ice Nova/FP inside of that wand.)
www.twitch.tv/varanice
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