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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 08 2013 03:28 GMT
#11301
Yeah, it is a lot more points that I'd usually get.. I might redo it grabbing only the needed nodes for the build then adding on survival and all that and see what happens..It's way too much right now..
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
November 08 2013 03:32 GMT
#11302
Are you using a physical wand and scaling it into elemental or using an elemental wand? I think that Witch is better if you are doing physical scaled into ele, but templar is definately better if you are doing directly elemental.
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 08 2013 03:37 GMT
#11303
Elemental wand is my plan, though I may run frenzy as single target which I'm not sure how much that will be able to benefit from elemental damage scaling. I'll have added fire on it which should help. I'd prefer to stick to templar regardless though.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
November 08 2013 03:40 GMT
#11304
On November 08 2013 12:37 Tennet wrote:
Elemental wand is my plan, though I may run frenzy as single target which I'm not sure how much that will be able to benefit from elemental damage scaling. I'll have added fire on it which should help. I'd prefer to stick to templar regardless though.

If you're using an elemental wand then the only benefit that frenzy will give you is the Frenzy Charges, and Added Fire won't be that good because you'll have most of your damage already in elemental, so Added light or Added Cold would be better.
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 03:56:31
November 08 2013 03:45 GMT
#11305
I was going to use the conduit gloves so I could give the party all charges. Good point on the added..Still working on reducing points.. this is hard =P currently at 100 which is roughly lvl 82.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
November 08 2013 04:08 GMT
#11306
I made a tree that I can compare to yours when the website is back up. You missed some good elemental wand nodes in the Witch area.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBAecCcQSzBS0FWxLhFCAUTRZvGS4ZhRo4GlUabBvIJIskqiftKU8ppS3SMok1kjboNuk62DrhPC09Dz9zQzFG103YTeNOKlBHVcZXDVfiXcZeE2BLYSFko2e9apN07Xbnd-V4znrvfLuCm4TviPGLjIx2jX6PRpBVkc6boZ2uns2fy6IAplenCKcwp4SsWbUEtkG3Pre2vqfAD8T2xq7NmM9l0NDSIdJN0xvV7dlh2wLfb-Fz42rkIudj7DjtIO5v8B_yRfPd_gr-jw==
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 08 2013 04:28 GMT
#11307
I'm not sure if I really need the aura nodes but I've kept them for now.. Here's my build adjusted with some input from yours..

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABVuLjOFz7SBG113GtQTkIilPGmyFfew4gpsZhTrYV-IaOCSqTdh8uy3Sd-UyiaeENumMdiSLBLOQVeNq-tI9DxRNAnEXLx0UxPaiAGTnj0Y8LSftVdbQ0MauGS6ApJuhz2W3PtlhZ71Vxv4KVw3ubxZv8kXnY9Ihkc54zjrhiPGezbvt0xs_c6ZXrFmnMHbn2wJN4zWSAecUIP6PNuify1BHZKMaVWEhhO8S4V4TdO0byHrvQzFgS7ZB328FLU4qKaWHKehmP_wIsQ==
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
November 08 2013 04:35 GMT
#11308
On November 08 2013 13:28 Tennet wrote:
I'm not sure if I really need the aura nodes but I've kept them for now.. Here's my build adjusted with some input from yours..

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABVuLjOFz7SBG113GtQTkIilPGmyFfew4gpsZhTrYV-IaOCSqTdh8uy3Sd-UyiaeENumMdiSLBLOQVeNq-tI9DxRNAnEXLx0UxPaiAGTnj0Y8LSftVdbQ0MauGS6ApJuhz2W3PtlhZ71Vxv4KVw3ubxZv8kXnY9Ihkc54zjrhiPGezbvt0xs_c6ZXrFmnMHbn2wJN4zWSAecUIP6PNuify1BHZKMaVWEhhO8S4V4TdO0byHrvQzFgS7ZB328FLU4qKaWHKehmP_wIsQ==

I think you should get EE. is there an aura calculator somewhere? I think you want to try and run wrath, anger and clarity so i think you'll want to use a 4L Alpha Howl with Reduced mana gem. So you will have 75% reduced mana + whatever clarity removes (Maybe you should have clarity in its own 3L with reduced mana + BM?) I dont think you will need the aura nodes.
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 04:36:34
November 08 2013 04:35 GMT
#11309
Don't you basically need a 6L chest to run elemental Wand?
Power Siphon, Chain, GMP, WED, BM, Leech... There's no way you'll regen 200+ mana/s without EB.
I was tempted to make a Scion Wander, but the sheer cost of the gear looks prohibitive... (ele dmg + life + res on everything, 6L chest, good wand, ideally Alpha's Howl with Anger+Wrath+Purity)

The Scion Trapper seems like the cheap alternative, although it doesn't provide the cool power charges to the team and is probably much slower (but safer?).

I guess I could respec one into the other for only.. ~35 respec points!
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
November 08 2013 04:40 GMT
#11310
On November 08 2013 13:35 Pwere wrote:
Don't you basically need a 6L chest to run elemental Wand?
Power Siphon, Chain, GMP, WED, BM, Leech... There's no way you'll regen 200+ mana/s without EB.
I was tempted to make a Scion Wander, but the sheer cost of the gear looks prohibitive... (ele dmg + life + res on everything, 6L chest, good wand, ideally Alpha's Howl with Anger+Wrath+Purity)

The Scion Trapper seems like the cheap alternative, although it doesn't provide the cool power charges to the team and is probably much slower (but safer?).

I guess I could respec one into the other for only.. ~35 respec points!

pretty sure tabula rasa is required until you have some kind of weird 6L offcolor eva chest
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 04:51:13
November 08 2013 04:45 GMT
#11311
Hmm, or I just go BM and get no auras.. I could always respec later if I manage to get the gear. I'm not really sure which scales better anymore. I don't really want to go witch if I go physical even though it creates a lot of wasted nodes with templar. EE is not a good idea due to being tedious and risky, especially in parties.

I guess I'm trying to make a poor man's wander because I'm too stubborn to do something else in Nem first.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
November 08 2013 04:51 GMT
#11312
On November 08 2013 13:45 Tennet wrote:
Hmm, or I just go BM and get no auras.. I could always respec later if I manage to get the gear. I'm not really sure which scales better anymore. I don't really want to go witch if I go physical. EE is not a good idea due to being tedious and risky, especially in parties.

I guess I'm trying to make a poor man's wander because I'm too stubborn to do something else in Nem first.

Physical wander is definately better in the lategame, but i'm not sure which is cheaper. They're both going to be really expensive if you want to build it well.
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 06:06:55
November 08 2013 04:56 GMT
#11313
Right now my goal is to be functional once I reach a certain point with melee. I'm still going to build primarily focused on survival as I go melee then make the switch when needed. I could switch to bow or wand then get the rest of the nodes as needed. Or even stay melee which I'd prefer not doing because I'd stay ST then..


Physical makes so much more sense. I'm heavily invested in strength so I can get iron grip, plus 170% increased phys from witch area which puts me right next to EB. So I could possibly pull this off, but now points are getting high.

I'm thinking about getting out of the duelist tree to save some points... unsure just yet. I removed IR since I would have to go AR ES for the most part.

WIP..

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABVuLjOFz7SBG113GtQTkIilPGmyFfew4na4ZhTrYGjinCCSqTdgt0qeE2CSPRjbpnjyMdpBVNsXQ0ONqgW_AGh8Cm6HPZQSzWfMEB2e9VcYUTfAfAnGsqkyzxSjubxZvqWiiACftLR9QMPZbeM4YXRkubRlZvD9z2WE74cHzMYlXDeL3gh6io0qMYbHSIZHOpyvbC3_GV4cBzJ7Nu-2LeiepgK6nMAj0Wm367wHn974UIHkDJDyiBDbon8tQRzGIwFSnXDpShylzU0lRMn7oZgdjP_xXKwix
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 06:42:02
November 08 2013 06:37 GMT
#11314
IM trying to make a CI build but I'm having trouble survivng right now. How much should I spec into life (1k atm lvl 35), don't wana spend too much on regrets later (already screwed up my build and used up 5 respecs lols)
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
November 08 2013 07:23 GMT
#11315
I didn't put any points into life nodes on my witch. I just stacked ES and switched to CI once i had around 2.5k shields. Since it was my first char and I had shit gear, that happened around lvl 50.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 09:14:25
November 08 2013 09:02 GMT
#11316
So im lvl 78 Nemesis! Can now Farm piety for a lil bit and build up maps. Its so amazing to get to this stage, after 1000's of hours played, i finally made it to end game in hardcore. Of course, going Scion Spectral Throw isnt the hardest thing, but im very happy with things right now. And for those interested, my build, nothing special IMO.

4800HP, 70/75/70 resist, 5 end. charges.

This is exactly what i have at this very moment. Getting the rest of those 2 hander nodes, if anyone knows where i should go after that, please feel free to chime in! Thanks!

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABCGfYTfKXm12omlpSSshuqrXyNZL-j03jplcxnjrh8kX-CqxZiPHnY7c-QYf56MauPC3E9iftrKpyqXzZGS7Uj7nd8i_vDqlueA1YrzboAec6UmSjGlVhIYTvdO1672BLBS1AoJ65TioppZ_LbEZybDIJMn4S4bZBpzAUIFBHW6_dDfzFZ6CHdkp9VvqHapBsqZSE2WVNR36rxSXfG_qkGW5pvqfSTcAP1e1qk_e-OyhZ88AakFWnhBo4iiI=
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
November 08 2013 09:18 GMT
#11317
So what's your dps at? Looks like you didn't spec into any specific weapon, so I'm assuming you have almost no damage on spectral throw
sprættemætute
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 09:55:31
November 08 2013 09:51 GMT
#11318
On November 08 2013 18:18 ZoRoXo wrote:
So what's your dps at? Looks like you didn't spec into any specific weapon, so I'm assuming you have almost no damage on spectral throw


lol indeed you are correct! 6500 Double Strike, 1200 Spectral Throw. But as you can see, my next 3 levels are going to be 2 hander physical dmg nodes, also, im only using 4 links right now. Solo, my dmg output feels fine, party's as we all know is where the DPS suffers. So in the next few levels, with a 5 link, for ST and/or DS, my damage should be, not terrible i guess lol.

Also, to the point about not speccing into a specific weapon, i thought it better to just get 2 hander nodes, so i may use any good 2 hander i find, whether an axe, sword, mace, lol staff maybe in some really rare case. I wanted to keep options as open as possible.
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:19:28
November 08 2013 10:18 GMT
#11319
This was pretty common pre-patch, but with the buffed weapon nodes (notice how a lot of them has extra life,armor etc) you really should decide for just one. Unless you want to change over and use double strike as your main skill, which you could, if you chose to respec iron grip, and scion projectile nodes.

There's several good spectral throw specs, and 1 thing they all have in common is settling on a specific weapon. I really think rangers have the best start, since they have no "wasted" nodes.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAOyi-vAOWguRuPZARYEOKr4MJSshuqrXyqW41kngNbEb-j6xZvopYr3JsTeOI8QHcNugyCaZX52Pi6qQZAec6Uq-iOuExnv4KYSEb-qcwMn4Q8PJFhO8l3_e-FCAUcXTthNlQRzQ4Qap6725pAyf462BLvqcB__cyBS3STXKpQKDAD6yqfNkhYJ65WfN08cEHZS_AGhjb1FLXfkpPErxmnpBVW68G7jQ1-tKnhN0NTiqXcDbpHRQaOPzFKaVjFySq42qPRmegGYXQ0Id2z2VKfVXGFm-fyw==


Is what I'm using, At 84 I have almost 17k heavy strike and 3k spectral throw, both 4linked. 5k hp, resist capped with purity (lacking 15 lightning res in town)

If I were to do it over again I'd go with something like this + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAOyi-vAOWguRuPZARYEOKr4MJSshuqrXyqW41kngNbEb-j6xZvopYr3JsTeOI8QHcNugyCaZX52Pi6qQZAec6Uq-iOuExnv4KYSEb-qcwn8uGYDJ-EPDyRYTvJd_3vhQgFHFWBHTthNlQRzQ4YVJ672VNbmkDJxuqYEtHfr6nAf-I7QUt0k1tSkCgwA-BOiFgnrl08cEHGNvUUtd-W68G7jQ13Q1OKpdw_MUppWMXVvpnoO4Oh3aj5yP273oa20p9y_Xv8NN--WMxsFpIFfDnDzpYBH6HGQ==


This could easily be a ranger spec and would have no wasted skillpoints.

My reasoning for the resist nodes is that the scion projectile nodes are weaker than any other projectile nodes on the skilltree, and I use my melee attack quite a lot, especially for bursting down bosses/corrupting blood. And extra resist is always a good thing, maybe at some point I can swap out purity with either grace or determination, even though I have about 6k armor w\o molten shell/flasks some extra is always nice, especially vs offscreen turbo charge.
sprættemætute
Narg
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland99 Posts
November 08 2013 13:09 GMT
#11320
Am on right now on europe domination, if anyone'd invite me Char name is Narffis
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