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On August 03 2011 05:02 Destro wrote:
ive never been gripped by a video game's story. never ever ever. writing for video games is ridiculous, usually the bottom of the barrel as far as writers go.. its a shame people care so much for something so trivial and un-interesting.
Try bioshock in that regard. It's pretty much the best story in any video game to date. It's actually a story worth thinking about when you've finished the game.
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On August 03 2011 05:02 Destro wrote:
ive never been gripped by a video game's story. never ever ever. writing for video games is ridiculous, usually the bottom of the barrel as far as writers go.. its a shame people care so much for something so trivial and un-interesting.
This is true of a lot of video games mainly because writing for a video game is completely different than any other medium due to the player having such an important role in actually making the story. This is why you get a lot of terrible stories from excellent writers (take Homefront for example). This doesn't mean all games have bad or throwaway stories. Bioshock for example has an excellent story in a really interesting world. The story is linked well to the gameplay and makes it really immersive.
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On August 03 2011 05:02 Destro wrote:
ive never been gripped by a video game's story. never ever ever. writing for video games is ridiculous, usually the bottom of the barrel as far as writers go.. its a shame people care so much for something so trivial and un-interesting.
Bioware and Bethesda games have great stories and writing.
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On August 03 2011 05:00 Kgst wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 04:58 goldfishs wrote:
You can find similaritys between everything if you search for them. Also you ignore/exclude alot.
Lets put it at that because I don't feel like sitting here for 30 minutes and explaining the flaws that you would had realised yourself had you spent more then 5 minutes on this. You act like you have spent much more time on this and somehow have superior lore of both games.. This was a connection that jumped out at me pretty clearly, I left out a lot of differences but I also left out a lot of similarities.
I don't even know what to make of that? You're defense beeing you deliberately made your post worse? Moving on, my point is you can't say for example "Protoss fight terrans, covenant fight humans", these plots are similar. No background info to why they are in conflicts etc.
Imagine I told you that we (man) have alot in common with spiders because we both kill flies.
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On August 03 2011 05:56 goldfishs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 05:00 Kgst wrote:On August 03 2011 04:58 goldfishs wrote:
You can find similaritys between everything if you search for them. Also you ignore/exclude alot.
Lets put it at that because I don't feel like sitting here for 30 minutes and explaining the flaws that you would had realised yourself had you spent more then 5 minutes on this. You act like you have spent much more time on this and somehow have superior lore of both games.. This was a connection that jumped out at me pretty clearly, I left out a lot of differences but I also left out a lot of similarities. I don't even know what to make of that? You're defense beeing you deliberately made your post worse? Moving on, my point is you can't say for example "Protoss fight terrans, covenant fight humans", these plots are similar. No background info to why they are in conflicts etc. Imagine I told you that we (man) have alot in common with spiders because we both kill flies.
My defense being this is not an ultra-serious post, its just a post noting the similarities, which are much, much greater than "humans and spiders are similar because they kill flies" that's just asinine, you really have no idea what you are talking about... Are you butthurt because Starcraft has your favorite videogame storyline and I crushed your hopes and dreams or what?
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Not going to lie, the Halo lore is vastly superior than Starcrafts at this stage. WoL really really ruined it, but HotS could turn it all around I suppose.
Not enough hype or epicness in the Xel Naga artifacts and key characters like Mengsk don't feel dangerous only annoying. Starcraft had its grift which Starcraft 2 lost in some ways. My main problem with SC2 are gaping plot holes and its storyline rambles on rather surging forward.
Mass Effect is similar to Halo/SC, but I really love the idea that everything they have ever found in ME was all part of the plan, all part of the trap, something they only barely avoided, but we have yet to see how far into that trap they have already fallen.
Halo had humanity on the brink with really big space rings. :D
Starcraft, eh I have a hard time feeling for humanity because we still have Earth far far away. And if some prisoners and unwanted people we shot off into space can put up such a fight against the Zerg and Toss imagine what Earth could bring to bear.... unless Earth was already wiped out while the UED was out and about from the whatever darkness we're fighting in SC2 then yeah I'd be okay with that.
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Alien vs Predator guys look a lot like Zerg and Protoss too.
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You know what made the original/bw story so badass? They only told you enough. They gave you a good story with some BITCHIN cutscenes. Then they let you imagine the rest.
You know what made halo's story so badass? Tell me because I don't.
The stories are similar in the same way Robert Redford and Liberace are both male.
(SC2's story b l o w s. If you want to compare Halo to SC2 then that's fine and accurate enough. Just don't muddle my epic memories from chidlhood with taht halo)
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On August 03 2011 07:03 Probe1 wrote:
You know what made the original/bw story so badass? They only told you enough. They gave you a good story with some BITCHIN cutscenes. Then they let you imagine the rest.
You know what made halo's story so badass? Tell me because I don't.
The stories are similar in the same way Robert Redford and Liberace are both male.
(SC2's story b l o w s. If you want to compare Halo to SC2 then that's fine and accurate enough. Just don't muddle my epic memories from chidlhood with taht halo)
I grew up watching SC:BW's intro cut scene. It's epicness and darkness all forever seared into my mind. Humanity's outpost being overrun while an Admiral watches with disdain only to take his Battlecruiser back out into space....
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That fucking firebat with a rocket launcher rocking back in forth is still in my head. People talk about nerdchill this nerd chill that.
You just described my baseline for nerdchill.
The other day I was in the shower thinking about starcraft and the cutscene where a random Terran outpost blows up a broken dragoon. Fucking hell I was replaying that in my head all day smiling.
I'm going to load SC and watch all the cutscenes right now. I don't even care that they're on youtube.
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On August 03 2011 05:30 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 05:02 Destro wrote:
ive never been gripped by a video game's story. never ever ever. writing for video games is ridiculous, usually the bottom of the barrel as far as writers go.. its a shame people care so much for something so trivial and un-interesting. Try bioshock in that regard. It's pretty much the best story in any video game to date. It's actually a story worth thinking about when you've finished the game.
sorry i found bioshock's story completely un-interesting, un-inspired, and pretty meh.
as for Rpg's... they take on way too much and have to many tangental subplots that have no relevance to the story line. (and yes, im talking bethesda and bioware)
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well the story in both video game is not that amasing at all if you compare it to the best sci-fi books anyways. The background in SC is good tho, idk about halo.
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Lol I drew this comparison years ago. And you'll notice that both draw a similar comparison to this:
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://www.darkblade.biz/wp-content/uploads/alien_vs_predator_2_0031.jpg) technologically advanced and very powerful predator/protoss/covenant vs resourceful yet crude humans/humans/terran vs disgusting nightmarish creatures flood/zerg/aliens
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starship troopers also had the same 3, although the protoss esque race was never shown in the movies, it was in the books/animation
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On August 03 2011 08:27 Destro wrote:
starship troopers also had the same 3, although the protoss esque race was never shown in the movies, it was in the books/animation
The skinnies can hardly be called a 'protoss-esque race', the humans were completely demolishing them in basically every major engagement.
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On August 03 2011 08:27 Destro wrote:
starship troopers also had the same 3, although the protoss esque race was never shown in the movies, it was in the books/animation
I'm going to point out that in the Starship Trooper movies, the marines look a lot like marines in the first Halo: Combat Evolved.
I think Bungie meant for this to happen.
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Three unique races has been done many times, that's the primary connection between a lot of stories. It's seen often don't think just Halo and SC have this in common.
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