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On May 31 2012 06:45 Timurid wrote:do you even watch Swansea play?
Yes I do. They are more like United in the time they won 3 titles in a row. Barcelona play possession football, go look how much possession Swansea holds in a match. Swansea is more direct, not endless passing til an opportunity arises, they go for goal.
And if you don't agree with me please come up with a better argument than 'do you watch them'. Just because a team plays attacking football doesn't make them play like barcelona. The phrase 'play like barcelona' is thrown around so much when only 2 teams really do it, spain and barcelona. I'd liken swansea to RM more than barca.
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On May 31 2012 14:18 Stimp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 06:45 Timurid wrote:On May 31 2012 05:33 Stimp wrote:
Swansea don't play like Barcelona. do you even watch Swansea play? Yes I do. They are more like United in the time they won 3 titles in a row. Barcelona play possession football, go look how much possession Swansea holds in a match. Swansea is more direct, not endless passing til an opportunity arises, they go for goal. And if you don't agree with me please come up with a better argument than 'do you watch them'. Just because a team plays attacking football doesn't make them play like barcelona. The phrase 'play like barcelona' is thrown around so much when only 2 teams really do it, spain and barcelona. I'd liken swansea to RM more than barca.
I agree Swansea play nothing like Barcelona, they are very cavalier and if anything play alot more like United with Dyer and Sinclair doing alot of the creative work, although Dyer had a bit of a dip and injury troubles. Throw in a strong good old fashioned CF in Danny Graham and a decent Joe Allen and you have a team built to score enough goals in the premier league to be decent.
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Korea didnt play as bad as i thought they did considering we had some key players missing. ki sung yong, lee chung yong, and park chu young were all gone, and i think with these players back, we'd be a very formidable team.
im still waiting on those korean kids at barca to play one day. there's three of them at la masia and they're like 15 right now, so im really excited about how they're gonna turn up. one of them's been already valued at 1 million pounds.
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On May 31 2012 14:42 Tazza wrote:
Korea didnt play as bad as i thought they did considering we had some key players missing. ki sung yong, lee chung yong, and park chu young were all gone, and i think with these players back, we'd be a very formidable team.
im still waiting on those korean kids at barca to play one day. there's three of them at la masia and they're like 15 right now, so im really excited about how they're gonna turn up. one of them's been already valued at 1 million pounds.
Heung-Min Son is my favourite player from the HSV. Great talent 
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On May 31 2012 14:42 Tazza wrote:
Korea didnt play as bad as i thought they did considering we had some key players missing. ki sung yong, lee chung yong, and park chu young were all gone, and i think with these players back, we'd be a very formidable team.
im still waiting on those korean kids at barca to play one day. there's three of them at la masia and they're like 15 right now, so im really excited about how they're gonna turn up. one of them's been already valued at 1 million pounds.
i wouldn't be surprised if park chu-young doesn't play this off-season for korea, considering he's only played like two games for arsenal all year.
kim jin-hyun looked really good from what i saw, he looks destined to take over from jung sung-ryong, whenever he fucks up.
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On May 31 2012 14:33 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 14:18 Stimp wrote:On May 31 2012 06:45 Timurid wrote:On May 31 2012 05:33 Stimp wrote:
Swansea don't play like Barcelona. do you even watch Swansea play? Yes I do. They are more like United in the time they won 3 titles in a row. Barcelona play possession football, go look how much possession Swansea holds in a match. Swansea is more direct, not endless passing til an opportunity arises, they go for goal. And if you don't agree with me please come up with a better argument than 'do you watch them'. Just because a team plays attacking football doesn't make them play like barcelona. The phrase 'play like barcelona' is thrown around so much when only 2 teams really do it, spain and barcelona. I'd liken swansea to RM more than barca. I agree Swansea play nothing like Barcelona, they are very cavalier and if anything play alot more like United with Dyer and Sinclair doing alot of the creative work, although Dyer had a bit of a dip and injury troubles. Throw in a strong good old fashioned CF in Danny Graham and a decent Joe Allen and you have a team built to score enough goals in the premier league to be decent.
Glad I'm not alone on this. As soon as someone plays attacking or attractive football the immediate buzz phrase is 'plays like barcelona'.
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On May 31 2012 14:18 Stimp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 06:45 Timurid wrote:On May 31 2012 05:33 Stimp wrote:
Swansea don't play like Barcelona. do you even watch Swansea play? Yes I do. They are more like United in the time they won 3 titles in a row. Barcelona play possession football, go look how much possession Swansea holds in a match. Swansea is more direct, not endless passing til an opportunity arises, they go for goal. And if you don't agree with me please come up with a better argument than 'do you watch them'. Just because a team plays attacking football doesn't make them play like barcelona. The phrase 'play like barcelona' is thrown around so much when only 2 teams really do it, spain and barcelona. I'd liken swansea to RM more than barca.
They're avg possession this season was 56.4%. Rodgers whole football philosophy is Total Football. The last game they played they had 63% of the ball. One example is Leon Britton the cm for Swansea. His passing rate in January was 93.3% and he was the most accurate passer in europe surpassing Xavi 93.0. The only difference is xavi had 1830 passes while britton had 1127 passes. Joe Allen another swansea player had a passing rating of 90.3 with 1075 passes. Another stat, Swansea city had 85.2% passing accuracy in Jan. So how can a direct passing team have 2 players with over 1000 passes and have over 50% of the ball and a coach who bases his "philosophy" on tiki taka football? Next time if you are going to say something back it up with some info instead of typing whatever comes to your mind. GOSH!
Stats
last game
Season's Avg Possession
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So are you telling me a direct passing team ala 08/09 United or Real Madrid don't have stats like that?
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On May 31 2012 15:04 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 14:42 Tazza wrote:
Korea didnt play as bad as i thought they did considering we had some key players missing. ki sung yong, lee chung yong, and park chu young were all gone, and i think with these players back, we'd be a very formidable team.
im still waiting on those korean kids at barca to play one day. there's three of them at la masia and they're like 15 right now, so im really excited about how they're gonna turn up. one of them's been already valued at 1 million pounds. i wouldn't be surprised if park chu-young doesn't play this off-season for korea, considering he's only played like two games for arsenal all year. kim jin-hyun looked really good from what i saw, he looks destined to take over from jung sung-ryong, whenever he fucks up.
and its because of the military situation park chu young is in. i understand its a controversy, and i wouldn't have a problem benching him if we actually had depth at the position, but we don't. we really need him because he's our only proven striker. ji dong won is too young, and i still doubt whether he has the potential to ever become a good forward. son heung min has the most potential and talent, but he's way too inconsistent at this stage of his career. and lee dong-guk is a choker, and do you really want to take a 35 year old forward to WC14? we have no option but to get park chu young back.
btw, im really disgusted at how wenger treated pcy this year. i would have understood if he had gotten a chance and failed, but he never got a chance! 8 minutes in premier league? are u kidding me wanker? even chamakh, who is older, and was awful on many occasions this season got plenty of chances
really needed ki sung yong tonight, he wouldn't have let spain dominate the midfield as much because he's a stud.
and yeah, the new goalkeeper looked really good. jung sung ryong was really bad in wc10, but he's improved a lot since then. i guess it'll come down to whether he can handle the pressure on a big stage
On May 31 2012 14:52 duckii wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 14:42 Tazza wrote:
Korea didnt play as bad as i thought they did considering we had some key players missing. ki sung yong, lee chung yong, and park chu young were all gone, and i think with these players back, we'd be a very formidable team.
im still waiting on those korean kids at barca to play one day. there's three of them at la masia and they're like 15 right now, so im really excited about how they're gonna turn up. one of them's been already valued at 1 million pounds. Heung-Min Son is my favourite player from the HSV. Great talent
yeah, i really admire son heung min. has so much talent and potential. do u know why he hasn't been getting more playing time? i heard berg, petric, guerrero, and the other strikers were awful.
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On May 31 2012 15:10 Stimp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 14:33 Rebs wrote:On May 31 2012 14:18 Stimp wrote:On May 31 2012 06:45 Timurid wrote:On May 31 2012 05:33 Stimp wrote:
Swansea don't play like Barcelona. do you even watch Swansea play? Yes I do. They are more like United in the time they won 3 titles in a row. Barcelona play possession football, go look how much possession Swansea holds in a match. Swansea is more direct, not endless passing til an opportunity arises, they go for goal. And if you don't agree with me please come up with a better argument than 'do you watch them'. Just because a team plays attacking football doesn't make them play like barcelona. The phrase 'play like barcelona' is thrown around so much when only 2 teams really do it, spain and barcelona. I'd liken swansea to RM more than barca. I agree Swansea play nothing like Barcelona, they are very cavalier and if anything play alot more like United with Dyer and Sinclair doing alot of the creative work, although Dyer had a bit of a dip and injury troubles. Throw in a strong good old fashioned CF in Danny Graham and a decent Joe Allen and you have a team built to score enough goals in the premier league to be decent. Glad I'm not alone on this. As soon as someone plays attacking or attractive football the immediate buzz phrase is 'plays like barcelona'.
yeah, the media love hyping reckless teams, they went crazy over blackpool last season and they got relegated, now they have hyped Rogers into the liverpool job, rofl
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On May 31 2012 20:12 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 14:52 duckii wrote:On May 31 2012 14:42 Tazza wrote:
Korea didnt play as bad as i thought they did considering we had some key players missing. ki sung yong, lee chung yong, and park chu young were all gone, and i think with these players back, we'd be a very formidable team.
im still waiting on those korean kids at barca to play one day. there's three of them at la masia and they're like 15 right now, so im really excited about how they're gonna turn up. one of them's been already valued at 1 million pounds. Heung-Min Son is my favourite player from the HSV. Great talent yeah, i really admire son heung min. has so much talent and potential. do u know why he hasn't been getting more playing time? i heard berg, petric, guerrero, and the other strikers were awful.
He was extremely out of form for quite some time.
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On May 31 2012 20:29 hns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 20:12 Tazza wrote:On May 31 2012 14:52 duckii wrote:On May 31 2012 14:42 Tazza wrote:
Korea didnt play as bad as i thought they did considering we had some key players missing. ki sung yong, lee chung yong, and park chu young were all gone, and i think with these players back, we'd be a very formidable team.
im still waiting on those korean kids at barca to play one day. there's three of them at la masia and they're like 15 right now, so im really excited about how they're gonna turn up. one of them's been already valued at 1 million pounds. Heung-Min Son is my favourite player from the HSV. Great talent yeah, i really admire son heung min. has so much talent and potential. do u know why he hasn't been getting more playing time? i heard berg, petric, guerrero, and the other strikers were awful. He was extremely out of form for quite some time.
yeah, that is true. can't disagree with that. idk, i just found it kind of weird that he scores so many goals in friendly matches for hsv, then doesn't get much playing time. but i do agree, he was out of form for a while this season. but was he still that much worse than berg and petric?
anyways, i really hope hsv buy koo ja cheol to form a korean duo
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We are talking about Swansea everyone thought that they'll be relegated this year, but they exceeded expectations and finished 11th in the league. The way Swansea plays is that they keep possession of the ball just like tiki taka. Real Madrid and that united team had top quality players so they can have that good passing accuracy. while who does Swansea have? Leon Britton, Joe Allen, Graham, etc etc. Most of you never heard of these players before this season started up, unless you watch championship football. For having these players to have passing percentages like the top bosses in europe and being on the top 5 of this season's avg possession without being in the TOP 4 is a magnificent managerial achievement from Brendan Rodgers. Sir Alex commented on swansea playing possession football.
Arsenal vs swansea post game
Sir Alex Post game Swansea
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About the korea game yesterday, that keeper did pretty well for his first cap. Granted the scoreline saids otherwise, but he made some good saves yesterday. The header from Torres was just a beauty and plus he was unmarked in the box. The 2nd was a penalty can't really say much about that. The 3rd from carzola was pretty sick free kick under the wall lol. No one expected it that. The 4th from negredo, you can give some blame to the keeper on that one. Most of the goals came from bad defending and brilliant play from the spanish
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On May 31 2012 23:50 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 15:10 Stimp wrote:On May 31 2012 14:33 Rebs wrote:On May 31 2012 14:18 Stimp wrote:On May 31 2012 06:45 Timurid wrote:On May 31 2012 05:33 Stimp wrote:
Swansea don't play like Barcelona. do you even watch Swansea play? Yes I do. They are more like United in the time they won 3 titles in a row. Barcelona play possession football, go look how much possession Swansea holds in a match. Swansea is more direct, not endless passing til an opportunity arises, they go for goal. And if you don't agree with me please come up with a better argument than 'do you watch them'. Just because a team plays attacking football doesn't make them play like barcelona. The phrase 'play like barcelona' is thrown around so much when only 2 teams really do it, spain and barcelona. I'd liken swansea to RM more than barca. I agree Swansea play nothing like Barcelona, they are very cavalier and if anything play alot more like United with Dyer and Sinclair doing alot of the creative work, although Dyer had a bit of a dip and injury troubles. Throw in a strong good old fashioned CF in Danny Graham and a decent Joe Allen and you have a team built to score enough goals in the premier league to be decent. Glad I'm not alone on this. As soon as someone plays attacking or attractive football the immediate buzz phrase is 'plays like barcelona'. Which is ironic because Barcelona don't play attractive, attacking football. They play passive, boring (but incredibly effective) football.
You forgot the (opinion) lol.
I think it's an attacking style, active, not boring and not as effective (we didn't win CL or La Liga after all).
To see how "attacking" it is, check the number of goal attempts in pretty much any Barça game in the last 4 years.
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On May 31 2012 23:55 Salteador Neo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 23:50 Sated wrote:On May 31 2012 15:10 Stimp wrote:On May 31 2012 14:33 Rebs wrote:On May 31 2012 14:18 Stimp wrote:On May 31 2012 06:45 Timurid wrote:On May 31 2012 05:33 Stimp wrote:
Swansea don't play like Barcelona. do you even watch Swansea play? Yes I do. They are more like United in the time they won 3 titles in a row. Barcelona play possession football, go look how much possession Swansea holds in a match. Swansea is more direct, not endless passing til an opportunity arises, they go for goal. And if you don't agree with me please come up with a better argument than 'do you watch them'. Just because a team plays attacking football doesn't make them play like barcelona. The phrase 'play like barcelona' is thrown around so much when only 2 teams really do it, spain and barcelona. I'd liken swansea to RM more than barca. I agree Swansea play nothing like Barcelona, they are very cavalier and if anything play alot more like United with Dyer and Sinclair doing alot of the creative work, although Dyer had a bit of a dip and injury troubles. Throw in a strong good old fashioned CF in Danny Graham and a decent Joe Allen and you have a team built to score enough goals in the premier league to be decent. Glad I'm not alone on this. As soon as someone plays attacking or attractive football the immediate buzz phrase is 'plays like barcelona'. Which is ironic because Barcelona don't play attractive, attacking football. They play passive, boring (but incredibly effective) football. You forgot the (opinion) lol. I think it's an attacking style, active, not boring and not as effective (we didn't win CL or La Liga after all). To see how "attacking" it is, check the number of goal attempts in pretty much any Barça game in the last 4 years.
You guys could of won against chelsea if you didnt start the youngins.
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On June 01 2012 00:13 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 23:55 Salteador Neo wrote:On May 31 2012 23:50 Sated wrote:On May 31 2012 15:10 Stimp wrote:On May 31 2012 14:33 Rebs wrote:On May 31 2012 14:18 Stimp wrote:On May 31 2012 06:45 Timurid wrote:On May 31 2012 05:33 Stimp wrote:
Swansea don't play like Barcelona. do you even watch Swansea play? Yes I do. They are more like United in the time they won 3 titles in a row. Barcelona play possession football, go look how much possession Swansea holds in a match. Swansea is more direct, not endless passing til an opportunity arises, they go for goal. And if you don't agree with me please come up with a better argument than 'do you watch them'. Just because a team plays attacking football doesn't make them play like barcelona. The phrase 'play like barcelona' is thrown around so much when only 2 teams really do it, spain and barcelona. I'd liken swansea to RM more than barca. I agree Swansea play nothing like Barcelona, they are very cavalier and if anything play alot more like United with Dyer and Sinclair doing alot of the creative work, although Dyer had a bit of a dip and injury troubles. Throw in a strong good old fashioned CF in Danny Graham and a decent Joe Allen and you have a team built to score enough goals in the premier league to be decent. Glad I'm not alone on this. As soon as someone plays attacking or attractive football the immediate buzz phrase is 'plays like barcelona'. Which is ironic because Barcelona don't play attractive, attacking football. They play passive, boring (but incredibly effective) football. You forgot the (opinion) lol. I think it's an attacking style, active, not boring and not as effective (we didn't win CL or La Liga after all). To see how "attacking" it is, check the number of goal attempts in pretty much any Barça game in the last 4 years. You didn't win the CL because the style isn't aggressive enough nor attacking enough to break down a team that "parks the bus" with a high-level of competency.
Thus, not effective enough. Scoring goals with not many attempts define efficiency and goal attempts define "agressiveness" or how "attacking" it is.
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