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TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
April 24 2012 21:20 GMT
#6761
On April 25 2012 06:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:01 Befree wrote:
If you think Chelsea deserved to win, or think they're a team worthy of a champions league finals, you just have no idea what you're talking about. If your thought process is "Chelsea won and Barcelona missed shots therefore Chelsea deserved to win" you have an immature understanding of the game and weak grasp on principles of statistics. Please don't embarrass yourself with unintelligible, ignorant statements on issues which are clearly beyond your understanding.

I think we all know the real finals are tomorrow now. I think Madrid is definitely the best remaining team and should be able to take it tomorrow. The skill difference isn't that huge though and they are starting from behind, so it's going to be tough. I think if they make it through, it will be a very one-sided, disappointing "final" versus Chelsea.

I was so worried about missing the finals because I was moving that day, but now I guess it won't be like I'm missing much.

I'm still very excited for the game tomorrow. I wanna see La Liga clench both Champions and Europa. Vamos guys, crush those Portuguese/German/English!

I second this, although one might argue that if you can't score; you're not accomplishing the primary goals of the game, thus do not deserve to advance. Inofficially though, I think it's hard to argue that Chelsea is a straight-up better team than Barcelona. Even though the defensive feat of their second half tonight is commendable, the ultra-turtle style in which they do it is uninspiring and boring to watch. Of course it's strategical, but I'd much rather see the magic that Barca produces when they're going offensive than when Chelsea are doing the same. After all, I think it's pretty obvious that agressive football has a million times higher entertainment value than defensive football.

As far as tomorrow goes, whoever wins will have a way easier time in the finals than they will in the semis. My gut tells me Real will come out on top ever so slightly, but I'll be cheering for Bayern. Regardless, I wouldn't have called Chelsea to take out either team in a potential finals before today's games, but with all the players prohibited from playing now, I can't see it happening. Sure, one might argue that the same was said before their games against Barca, but coming into the second leg with a 1-0 lead, I wasn't all that surprised in the end. In a single-series finals, with their current conditions, I can't see Chelsea taking the cup this time either. Sorry all Brits.

Now gogo Bayern, I believe in you

Oh certainly no one is going to argue that Chelsea is a better team than Barcelona. Barcelona clearly have superior passers and superior technique at nearly every position. However, at the end of the day, Barcelona were unlucky over the two legs, but you can't say that Chelsea don't deserve to advance. They limited the chances created by Barcelona (there weren't many good chances) whereas Chelsea capitalized on their opportunities. Chelsea were definitely lucky, but they certainly deserved to win - I think the only time where the 'deserved' argument should come into play is when issues of refereeing are called in question.

As per the 'boring' style of play - teams only play in such a manner against Barcelona because of their technique. You only ever really see that turtle style in games like these - which can be characterized as a nice relief from Barcelona cutting everyone else apart.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 24 2012 21:21 GMT
#6762
On April 25 2012 06:17 Lovedrop wrote:
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Sky Sports reported that Terry claimed Sanchez had 'checked his run' which caused the Chelsea captain to shift his weight onto his back foot, which in turn resulted in the defender's knee being raised into the Barcelona forward's back.


what


Yeah that was reported by the touchline commentator, as soon as he went off. Hell probably have to retract that, the video is to blatant.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 21:21:30
April 24 2012 21:21 GMT
#6763
On April 25 2012 06:19 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:17 Lovedrop wrote:
Sky Sports reported that Terry claimed Sanchez had 'checked his run' which caused the Chelsea captain to shift his weight onto his back foot, which in turn resulted in the defender's knee being raised into the Barcelona forward's back.


what

He's obviously bullshitting. Replays clearly show Sanchez coming to a stop and Terry moving foward to knee him. Terry's an idiot and a liar. This shouldn't surprise anyone.


He apologized after the match in the post game interview after he saw how fucking obvious it looked. But yeah, he's an idiot.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 21:23:48
April 24 2012 21:22 GMT
#6764
Hahaha, I love it when "injustice" wins happen - never liked Barcelona and was so glad that they lost!

Ramirez scores one of the best goals I've ever seen. And Torres scored, lol!

Similar to the feeling I had in 2010 when Inter beat them in the semi-finals (especially after Barca dived to get someone sent off).

Now, hoping for Real Madrid to cap off a great season!
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
April 24 2012 21:24 GMT
#6765
On April 25 2012 06:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:01 Befree wrote:
If you think Chelsea deserved to win, or think they're a team worthy of a champions league finals, you just have no idea what you're talking about. If your thought process is "Chelsea won and Barcelona missed shots therefore Chelsea deserved to win" you have an immature understanding of the game and weak grasp on principles of statistics. Please don't embarrass yourself with unintelligible, ignorant statements on issues which are clearly beyond your understanding.

I think we all know the real finals are tomorrow now. I think Madrid is definitely the best remaining team and should be able to take it tomorrow. The skill difference isn't that huge though and they are starting from behind, so it's going to be tough. I think if they make it through, it will be a very one-sided, disappointing "final" versus Chelsea.

I was so worried about missing the finals because I was moving that day, but now I guess it won't be like I'm missing much.

I'm still very excited for the game tomorrow. I wanna see La Liga clench both Champions and Europa. Vamos guys, crush those Portuguese/German/English!

I second this, although one might argue that if you can't score; you're not accomplishing the primary goals of the game, thus do not deserve to advance. Inofficially though, I think it's hard to argue that Chelsea is a straight-up better team than Barcelona. Even though the defensive feat of their second half tonight is commendable, the ultra-turtle style in which they do it is uninspiring and boring to watch. Of course it's strategical, but I'd much rather see the magic that Barca produces when they're going offensive than when Chelsea are doing the same. After all, I think it's pretty obvious that agressive football has a million times higher entertainment value than defensive football.


I don't think anyone argues that Chelsea is the better team at the moment. Imo they're past their prime which you can see at their pretty mediocre PL results this season and were pretty lucky to reach the semi finals.

But in both games they played better than Barca and deserve to go through. Football isn't about playing pretty it's about playing a style which suits your team and counters the other team :/

Barca had plenty of chances but botched them - something you can't afford with a defense as bad as they got..
Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
April 24 2012 21:24 GMT
#6766


More than a bit cruel.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 24 2012 21:25 GMT
#6767
On April 25 2012 06:11 Zaken_ wrote:
So you think that Chelsea played? I think they were walking around the area all the game, well except Drogba and Torres that Run a little bit.


Suck it up and get Barcelona to learn how to adapt. Just because they were beaten by a style of football you don't like doesn't mean it wasn't football.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
April 24 2012 21:27 GMT
#6768
On April 25 2012 06:24 Spinfusor wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xB7sC3DMXk

More than a bit cruel.


Aww poor Ivanovic...
zeeQue
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
April 24 2012 21:28 GMT
#6769
Wow Ivanovic looked like he wanted the world to swallow him up! Fuck that for a laugh
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
April 24 2012 21:28 GMT
#6770
I think Chelsea deserved to go through, Barca just couldn't break them. Hard luck Barca fans, and well done Chelsea. Finals will be interesting...
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
April 24 2012 21:30 GMT
#6771
((( Ivanovic <3
1oo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal876 Posts
April 24 2012 21:31 GMT
#6772
I dont like barcelona but if barça would defend the way chelsea did every game after beeing ahead they would win everything.
At the top of the game, we play by diferent rules.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
April 24 2012 21:31 GMT
#6773
Chelsea! They deserved the win because they were only 10 players at the end.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
April 24 2012 21:32 GMT
#6774
Wow, poor Branislav. TT
#freeshauni
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 24 2012 21:40 GMT
#6775
Seems like a lot of mad barca fans in this thread

sexy goals are all you need

torres 50 million champions league final tyvm
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
April 24 2012 21:41 GMT
#6776
catalan newpaper lololol http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/ungracious-catalan-press-call-chelsea-cowardly-vulgar-and-unworth
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 21:43:27
April 24 2012 21:41 GMT
#6777
OMG!!

AMAZING i fucking love chelsea so much!! OMG so many ups and downs this season but we stuck together and we beat the best team in the world over 2 legs! Bit of luck along the way i dont give a fuck! Were in the final vs anyone i don't care, everyone knows anything can happen in the final, just look at Liverpool winning it in 2005, im so happy right!! COME ON CHELSEA!!

JT - stupid moment, glad he came out at the end apologised to fans and players and put his hands up, he knows he shouldn't of done it and he has the worst punishment in the world of not making the final.

Ivanovic - Argh so sad for him, booking keeps him out of the final so sad, he got it for descent from the penalty which they missed too

Raul - was always going to get a Yellow, but to get it in the 85th minute i beleive was so sad, he clearly was distraught when the ref bought the card out, you saw his reaction, was begging and pleading not to get it.

Ramires - the saddest of them all, played so well tonight and got it for a rather unlucky challenge, Chelsea going to miss him the most out of them all i think, cuz he is proving a big game player with 2x important passes/goal in the 2 legs.

Ref had a good game, Fabregas clearly dived for his penalty which they missed, but i got to admit they have not shown it much (might be ball to hand) but Ashely before Torres (AMAZING OMG PRO GOAL :p) looked like he handled it but might be ball to hand.

Torres, score another lke that in the final and Roman would be pleased he spent the money on you

GG!!! ♥♥

EDIT: The ivanovic interview, GEOFF YOU ARE A FKN WANKER!!!! he said aswell to Drogba in his interview, that ramires and raul were also supsended from finals after he listed ivanovic JT as out. He knows how to make players sad huh >.<
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 22:03:53
April 24 2012 21:42 GMT
#6778
On April 25 2012 06:16 Rebs wrote:

I have a much better, analytical, historical and contextual understanding of this game then you will ever have.


A new game: guess Rebs true identity.

Di Stefano?


This match was a good reminder of why I like football. Just nice weather, good pitch & proper refereeing you can rest assured the better team wins. Individual skill, strategy, physical attributes,money,motivation : any combination can be succesful yet nothing works on its own. There is very little luck involved.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
April 24 2012 21:48 GMT
#6779
On April 25 2012 06:42 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:16 Rebs wrote:

I have a much better, analytical, historical and contextual understanding of this game then you will ever have.


A new game: guess Rebs true identity.

Di Stefano?


Johan Cruyff? :D
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 24 2012 21:53 GMT
#6780
Dont need to have be Cruyff to know more than people who rile of this kind of drivel with the confidence of a baboon in heat,..

On April 25 2012 06:01 Befree wrote:
If you think Chelsea deserved to win, or think they're a team worthy of a champions league finals, you just have no idea what you're talking about. If your thought process is "Chelsea won and Barcelona missed shots therefore Chelsea deserved to win" you have an immature understanding of the game and weak grasp on principles of statistics. Please don't embarrass yourself with unintelligible, ignorant statements on issues which are clearly beyond your understanding.

I'm still very excited for the game tomorrow. I wanna see La Liga clench both Champions and Europa. Vamos guys, crush those Portuguese/German/English!
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