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On April 25 2012 05:54 zulu_nation8 wrote: so how did torres manage to get 10 yards behind the last defender by the half line? Why aren't they even showing the offside line for the replay?
there is no offside if your in your own half.
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That being said, consider the following. Benfica should've beat Chelsea in the quarter-finals. Chelsea beat Barcelona. Therefore, Benfica > Barcelona and we should be in the finals.
In case you don't get it, I'm joking.
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zulu, behind the midfield, there's no offside  I wanted only to see the replay on the pass to Torres, to check if there's a handball or not. Nevertheless, deserved for Chelsea! Tomorrow, go REAL!
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On April 25 2012 05:50 Steveling wrote: What I(and many others with me, I think) don't like about that win, is that they won in the manner that I would expect my local team Olympiakos to play against Barca. They were inferior, they knew it, they decided to play defensively, and they somehow won. That's not what I expect from a big team. There's no pride in that. But then again, you have Arsenal/Real trying to play ball and getting humiliated so can't really blame Chelsea for choosing that way.
No this is nothing to dislike about that. The italian sides of the past were extremely proud and theyre brand of football which was similar (atleast in spirit) to this was the best for a very long time. Doesnt matter how you get the result. Chelsea absolutely deserve this. Im unhappy about the result to but at no point can you say that Barca deserved this not taking the chances they had over the 2 legs. Messi and Fabregas in particular and to some extent Sanchez have been extremely guilty of letting things slip.
Look at it from the other side a bit. Chelsea's not pretending they can beat Barca at their own game and their effort considering the circumstances were herculean. Are they a better team ? Probably not.. but so what. They deserve to win and not just one game, over 2 legs. You cant argue that.
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Cech so godly. Valdez go play Sunday League. Messi.. oof, what a terrible day. RAMIRES OMGGGGGGG
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On April 25 2012 05:54 zulu_nation8 wrote: so how did torres manage to get 10 yards behind the last defender by the half line? Why aren't they even showing the offside line for the replay? Because he started in his own half..
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oh god, now i am even more excited about the real- bayern game tomorrow,
Bayern - Chelsea Final would be so surprising ^^
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On April 25 2012 05:54 zulu_nation8 wrote: so how did torres manage to get 10 yards behind the last defender by the half line? Why aren't they even showing the offside line for the replay?
He received the ball when he was on his own half so no off side
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u cant be offside in ur own half
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On April 25 2012 05:57 Sponge75 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:54 zulu_nation8 wrote: so how did torres manage to get 10 yards behind the last defender by the half line? Why aren't they even showing the offside line for the replay? Because he started in his own half..
Its amazing that these questions still pop up and people pretend like they have educated opinions..
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Hmmm the odds on a online gambling website for tomorrow are quite interesting with 1.5:5.5 ... i don't know if i argee ~_~
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On April 25 2012 05:45 Steveling wrote: Xavi, Iniesta and Alves are so bad for the last couple months. Xavi especially, terrible form.
Sorry you have no idea what you are talking about. Barca players aren't worse because they lost this game. Iniesta and Xavi are still top5 players of the world.
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Who was announced man of the match btw? Has to be Ramires or Cech surely?
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replays are showing it was a dive for the pen also..
edit terry is now saying hes not that type of player! LOL
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If you think Chelsea deserved to win, or think they're a team worthy of a champions league finals, you just have no idea what you're talking about. If your thought process is "Chelsea won and Barcelona missed shots therefore Chelsea deserved to win" you have an immature understanding of the game and weak grasp on principles of statistics. Please don't embarrass yourself with unintelligible, ignorant statements on issues which are clearly beyond your understanding.
I think we all know the real finals are tomorrow now. I think Madrid is definitely the best remaining team and should be able to take it tomorrow. The skill difference isn't that huge though and they are starting from behind, so it's going to be tough. I think if they make it through, it will be a very one-sided, disappointing "final" versus Chelsea.
I was so worried about missing the finals because I was moving that day, but now I guess it won't be like I'm missing much.
I'm still very excited for the game tomorrow. I wanna see La Liga clench both Champions and Europa. Vamos guys, crush those Portuguese/German/English!
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On April 25 2012 06:00 La1 wrote: replays are showing it was a dive for the pen also..
Really? Not that it matters much now.
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On April 25 2012 05:56 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:50 Steveling wrote: What I(and many others with me, I think) don't like about that win, is that they won in the manner that I would expect my local team Olympiakos to play against Barca. They were inferior, they knew it, they decided to play defensively, and they somehow won. That's not what I expect from a big team. There's no pride in that. But then again, you have Arsenal/Real trying to play ball and getting humiliated so can't really blame Chelsea for choosing that way.
No this is nothing to dislike about that. The italian sides of the past were extremely proud and theyre brand of football which was similar (atleast in spirit) to this was the best for a very long time. Doesnt matter how you get the result. Chelsea absolutely deserve this. Im unhappy about the result to but at no point can you say that Barca deserved this not taking the chances they had over the 2 legs. Messi and Fabregas in particular and to some extent Sanchez have been extremely guilty of letting things slip. Look at it from the other side a bit. Chelsea's not pretending they can beat Barca at their own game and their effort considering the circumstances were herculean. Are they a better team ? Probably not.. but so what. They deserve to win and not just one game, over 2 legs. You cant argue that.
Ofc, I agree 100% with your post. I didn't contradict it. It's just a personal preference, I dislike passive play from "big" teams.
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On April 25 2012 05:53 mememolly wrote: barca got figured out, playing 5 yard passes constantly might look impressive to the layman but doesn't mean shit when it counts Let's not take this too far. They were forced to play that way because of the way Chelsea set up. They are usually more incisive and daring with their play, but with virtually no space in the final third, it's pretty impossible.
And let's not be so quick to dimiss their football in such a trivial manner. We all know tiki-taka is much much more than just making a series of short passes. Their record over the past 5~6 years should be proof of that. The main problem this season has been trying to fit in new players into their system, and some key players just not performing well at the right time. They have a lot of issues to sort through, but you should really think a little more before speaking.
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