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On April 25 2012 06:01 Befree wrote:
If you think Chelsea deserved to win, or think they're a team worthy of a champions league finals, you just have no idea what you're talking about. If your thought process is "Chelsea won and Barcelona missed shots therefore Chelsea deserved to win" you have an immature understanding of the game and weak grasp on principles of statistics. Please don't embarrass yourself with unintelligible, ignorant statements on issues which are clearly beyond your understanding.
I think we all know the real finals are tomorrow now. I think Madrid is definitely the best remaining team and should be able to take it tomorrow. The skill difference isn't that huge though and they are starting from behind, so it's going to be tough. I think if they make it through, it will be a very one-sided, disappointing "final" versus Chelsea.
I was so worried about missing the finals because I was moving that day, but now I guess it won't be like I'm missing much.
I'm still very excited for the game tomorrow. I wanna see La Liga clench both Champions and Europa. Vamos guys, crush those Portuguese/German/English!
goals matter, nothing else
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WHAT A TURNAROUND FOR BOLTON WANDERERS, this relegation battle isnt over yet !
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On April 25 2012 06:01 Befree wrote:
If you think Chelsea deserved to win, or think they're a team worthy of a champions league finals, you just have no idea what you're talking about. If your thought process is "Chelsea won and Barcelona missed shots therefore Chelsea deserved to win" you have an immature understanding of the game and weak grasp on principles of statistics. Please don't embarrass yourself with unintelligible, ignorant statements on issues which are clearly beyond your understanding.
I think we all know the real finals are tomorrow now. I think Madrid is definitely the best remaining team and should be able to take it tomorrow. The skill difference isn't that huge though and they are starting from behind, so it's going to be tough. I think if they make it through, it will be a very one-sided, disappointing "final" versus Chelsea.
I was so worried about missing the finals because I was moving that day, but now I guess it won't be like I'm missing much.
I'm still very excited for the game tomorrow. I wanna see La Liga clench both Champions and Europa. Vamos guys, crush those Portuguese/German/English!
lol? You really think that Barça played better? Don't forget that modern football is 70% tactic, 20% showoff, 10% luck.
Tactically speaking, Chelsea did their game. Barcelona's plan couldn't just break it. I'm sorry for your dreams of seeing UEFAlona once again on the Finals, but that's not gonna happen. Live with it.
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You might want have a look at "Random pics" thread.
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On April 25 2012 06:03 SabreUK wrote:
in other news
WHAT A TURNAROUND FOR BOLTON WANDERERS, this relegation battle isnt over yet !
Aston Villa could play in the championship next season 0_0
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Cesc is cursed. This proves the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
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When Terry got the red card I was like wtf?! none of the Chelsea players made it a big deal, Cech came up and told Terry to GTFO, everyone left gave 120% or more and people like Ramires and Drogba showed they were men of big matches.
This was not the first time but when you can't afford to roll around Drogba goes into man mode. Di Matteo is one fricking promising coach.
This wasn't the first time from Terry but I think they need to seriously think the captaincy thing over.
From Barcelonas side it wasn't all that unexpected, yeah they got a bit unlucky if you can call it that but there were both tactical and personal shortcomings. Although he missed the penalty it's hardly justified to blame Messi. There are no one-man teams in football.
I'm pretty pumped for the finals already, chelsea is missing a lot but they must be driven like crazy after this feat.
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So you think that Chelsea played? I think they were walking around the area all the game, well except Drogba and Torres that Run a little bit.
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On April 25 2012 06:01 Befree wrote:
If you think Chelsea deserved to win, or think they're a team worthy of a champions league finals, you just have no idea what you're talking about. If your thought process is "Chelsea won and Barcelona missed shots therefore Chelsea deserved to win" you have an immature understanding of the game and weak grasp on principles of statistics. Please don't embarrass yourself with unintelligible, ignorant statements on issues which are clearly beyond your understanding.
I think we all know the real finals are tomorrow now. I think Madrid is definitely the best remaining team and should be able to take it tomorrow. The skill difference isn't that huge though and they are starting from behind, so it's going to be tough. I think if they make it through, it will be a very one-sided, disappointing "final" versus Chelsea.
I was so worried about missing the finals because I was moving that day, but now I guess it won't be like I'm missing much.
I'm still very excited for the game tomorrow. I wanna see La Liga clench both Champions and Europa. Vamos guys, crush those Portuguese/German/English!
I second this, although one might argue that if you can't score; you're not accomplishing the primary goals of the game, thus do not deserve to advance. Inofficially though, I think it's hard to argue that Chelsea is a straight-up better team than Barcelona. Even though the defensive feat of their second half tonight is commendable, the ultra-turtle style in which they do it is uninspiring and boring to watch. Of course it's strategical, but I'd much rather see the magic that Barca produces when they're going offensive than when Chelsea are doing the same. After all, I think it's pretty obvious that agressive football has a million times higher entertainment value than defensive football.
As far as tomorrow goes, whoever wins will have a way easier time in the finals than they will in the semis. My gut tells me Real will come out on top ever so slightly, but I'll be cheering for Bayern. Regardless, I wouldn't have called Chelsea to take out either team in a potential finals before today's games, but with all the players prohibited from playing now, I can't see it happening. Sure, one might argue that the same was said before their games against Barca, but coming into the second leg with a 1-0 lead, I wasn't all that surprised in the end. In a single-series finals, with their current conditions, I can't see Chelsea taking the cup this time either. Sorry all Brits.
Now gogo Bayern, I believe in you 
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On April 25 2012 06:10 Timurid wrote:
Cesc is cursed. This proves the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Mixed feeling about Cesc. On one hand, I want him to do well and win trophies, but on the other, I kind of want Arsenal to win something before he does. 
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Thank God Chelsea won (I support Arsenal so I'm very unbiased) time for people to stop thinking 80% possession, and 6(7) midfielders and 95% pass accuracy makes you unbeatable and "the better team". Hopefully Bayern win too and sometime in the future La Liga will stop giving 400M of their 500M rights to 2 teams alone so we can have some actual competition in that desolate league.
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On April 25 2012 06:01 Befree wrote:
If you think Chelsea deserved to win, or think they're a team worthy of a champions league finals, you just have no idea what you're talking about. If your thought process is "Chelsea won and Barcelona missed shots therefore Chelsea deserved to win" you have an immature understanding of the game and weak grasp on principles of statistics. Please don't embarrass yourself with unintelligible, ignorant statements on issues which are clearly beyond your understanding.
I'm still very excited for the game tomorrow. I wanna see La Liga clench both Champions and Europa. Vamos guys, crush those Portuguese/German/English!
Heres a statistic. Messi, Penalties 1.. goals 0.
I have a much better, analytical, historical and contextual understanding of this game then you will ever have. I cannot find any reason to fault Chelsea, luck ? Sure they had it, who doesnt get some now and then. Were they extremely lucky ? Yea sure. But dismissing a team that held out for more than a half football with a man short against the best incisive threat in the world regardless of how they did it is praiseworthy. They are not as good as Barcelona so they use the tools at their disposal to graft a win.
It is simple conventional wisdom. Im not making this up. Sometiems the stars have to align for teams to make it and they did on this occasion for Chelsea. You cant win everything as much as I personally would like that to be the case. Its better to be introspective then say.. "Son of a bitch they got lucky" . so how about take the smartass comments somewhere else ?
That having been said the lack of grace and humiltiy amongst people hating on Barca is disturbing, appalling even.
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On April 25 2012 06:13 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 06:10 Timurid wrote:
Cesc is cursed. This proves the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Mixed feeling about Cesc. On one hand, I want him to do well and win trophies, but on the other, I kind of want Arsenal to win something before he does.
I used to feel like that, but he keeps talking about arsenal all the time in the press. I'm pretty annoyed he keeps mentioning arsenal i mean he wanted to leave and he put his money in the deal too so just move on. You don't see carroll talking about newcastle all the time.
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Sky Sports reported that Terry claimed Sanchez had 'checked his run' which caused the Chelsea captain to shift his weight onto his back foot, which in turn resulted in the defender's knee being raised into the Barcelona forward's back.
what
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Barca needed the loss more than the win. They needed to be knocked down a peg or two!
Also if players like Sánchez and Sergio Busquets stopped rolling around like a bus had hit them after every tackle and just tried to play on it would make me personally repsect them better and probably alot of others.
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On April 25 2012 06:16 Timurid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 06:13 Telcontar wrote:On April 25 2012 06:10 Timurid wrote:
Cesc is cursed. This proves the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Mixed feeling about Cesc. On one hand, I want him to do well and win trophies, but on the other, I kind of want Arsenal to win something before he does. I used to feel like that, but he keeps talking about arsenal all the time in the press. I'm pretty annoyed he keeps mentioning arsenal i mean he wanted to leave and he put his money in the deal too so just move on. You don't see carroll talking about newcastle all the time.
I guess he just misses us. He might've started his career at Barca, but I think a part of his heart is still a gooner, and forever will be.
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On April 25 2012 06:11 Zaken_ wrote:
So you think that Chelsea played? I think they were walking around the area all the game, well except Drogba and Torres that Run a little bit.
Considering the defensive line of Chelsea was Bosingwa and Ivanavic who are actually fullbacks, I thought they we're pretty good yeah. I thought Torres was actually a liability before he actually stuck the ball in the net.
What a game, crushing if your Messi.
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On April 25 2012 06:17 Lovedrop wrote:Show nested quote +Sky Sports reported that Terry claimed Sanchez had 'checked his run' which caused the Chelsea captain to shift his weight onto his back foot, which in turn resulted in the defender's knee being raised into the Barcelona forward's back. what
He's obviously bullshitting. Replays clearly show Sanchez coming to a stop and Terry moving foward to knee him. Terry's an idiot and a liar. This shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Cech was phenomenal these two legs.
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On April 25 2012 06:18 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 06:16 Timurid wrote:On April 25 2012 06:13 Telcontar wrote:On April 25 2012 06:10 Timurid wrote:
Cesc is cursed. This proves the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Mixed feeling about Cesc. On one hand, I want him to do well and win trophies, but on the other, I kind of want Arsenal to win something before he does. I used to feel like that, but he keeps talking about arsenal all the time in the press. I'm pretty annoyed he keeps mentioning arsenal i mean he wanted to leave and he put his money in the deal too so just move on. You don't see carroll talking about newcastle all the time. I guess he just misses us. He might've started his career at Barca, but I think a part of his heart is still a gooner, and forever will be.
I for one think he left a bit soon. But that's a different story. Feel free to tell me otherwise lol.
Can't wait for tomorrow and shove the game down my friends' throats 24/7
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