TL Chess Match 4 - Page 57

On September 10 2011 03:57 Seldentar wrote:
Amazing how every thread in any forum that lasts over 50 pages inevitably turns into some stupid argument like this, and then either dies or returns back to normal. Lol @ human nature

On September 10 2011 03:57 MrProphylactic wrote:
There are only two poeple I have a problem with , and you are one of them . You remind me of a Bronze Sc2 players arguing until they are blue in the face with a Pro sc2 player about actual game mechanics .
But from now On I will ignore the absurdity , If you will try as well .


( I have never said anything other than I am an average talent, and I never claimed to be the best player here , you are misquoting me , which in light of your last post is a little ironic )

On September 10 2011 03:57 Seldentar wrote:
Amazing how every thread in any forum that lasts over 50 pages inevitably turns into some stupid argument like this, and then either dies or returns back to normal. Lol @ human nature

On September 10 2011 04:05 MrProphylactic wrote:



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Team liquid has to be good for something . It actually got worse after the release of sc2 if you believe that possible.

On September 10 2011 04:10 MrProphylactic wrote:
Something off-topic .
I think maybe one thing that adds to so many arguments online is a lack of voice-tones. This leads to others imagining the voice tone they want( where a negative one was not intended, or vice-versa ). As a good 80 percent of communication is thought to be voice tone alone, I have always been curious how this may effect Internet conversations. I would be interested to see any studies on this topic
I wonder if any have been done .

On September 10 2011 04:11 wuBu wrote:
Haha, reading this from the sidelines, I can't help but to agree with qrs, but that's besides the point. Both of you need to chill out and stop taking shots at each other. We still got a game to get through and hostility isn't going to help our team.

On September 10 2011 04:31 qrs wrote:
This is very true, and I know from experience that I'm one of the worst people I know at communicating my tone in text writing. Part of the problem is that I like to write in a relatively formal style, which affects perceived tone of voice no end. I think definitely there have been misunderstandings on both sides at various points of this argument.

It sometimes helps me to take a step back and realize that the other guy is just as convinced of my pigheadedness as I am of his, and we are both people, and the main reason that my point of view looks so much better than his to me is because that's the point of view I see. I probably shouldn't have blown up at you on the last page, but it may even have been for the best: sometimes letting off steam ends up clearing the air.

You're free to keep disliking me, and I'll understand that, but for my part, I think I have a better perspective again, and I don't have anything against you at this point. I'll stick to our agreement about future off-topic posts here (I'm hoping that this one can be allowed, since it's not argumentative.)

On September 10 2011 04:45 MrProphylactic wrote:

It is all good , as the kids say these days . I am over it .Chess is a touchy topic for me , as I have worked very very hard to earn the title I hold . I am sure I am as much to blame for the misunderstanding .

( Through the advent of computers and internet , there are many people that do not show Masters the respect they deserve anymore in my humble opinion, maybe you are not one of them, and I could have been conflating certain issues. )

On September 10 2011 04:49 Seldentar wrote:


Just curious what title are you referring to? Are you an international or grand master?

On September 10 2011 04:54 jdseemoreglass wrote:
He says this site was great until SC2 was released? I can't comment on that, but I know for a fact this thread was great until prophylactic showed up, now it has turned to shit with his passive-aggressive insults.

From his very first post he was complaining about how this game would be impossible to win, because the players are so weak. He's repeated how weak everyone is several times, and repeated his rank several times as well. This is very specifically what Ng5 warned us away from doing. He said not to make arguments based upon "I'm IM/GM/God." And yet here we are...

He disparagingly refers to me as a lowly "1500 player," even though I stated I don't even have a rating. He claims my database is 50 years old because I provided some games from Spassky. No, the database I'm using is only 4 years old.

I really hate to derail this thread and continue this whole stupid thing, but that's precisely what happens when someone shows up and starts insulting other people: the thread gets derailed. It's a shame too, because up until the last couple moves we were having really good back and forth discussions without having to insult each other's abilities or ratings, etc.

I told myself earlier I was just going to stop responding to it, because I naively thought it would go away. However, he's started the same shit with qrs, and just now threw another passive-aggressive insult at wubu. I really can't see things improving much from this point.

"I would not expect many here to have put the vast amount of hours of work needed to see things from my point of view." You think that we are misrepresenting your "voice-tone"? No, we aren't. You are very clearly stating repeatedly that your opinion is simply superior to everyone else's. That's not how you make arguments here. Show the analysis, that's all anyone cares about in the end.

On September 10 2011 04:57 MrProphylactic wrote:


Here he goes trying to re-flame the fire . Listen you may not like the fact we are resolving this . But if you have nothing more to add but more arguing just keep it to yourself .

"I would not expect many here to have put the vast amount of hours of work needed to see things from my point of view." I stand by this statement ,. It is not an insult just a reality . I am a statistical minority having put so many hours into this game that few would have the amount of time needed , there was nothing negative intended by it .

Or maybe where you come from Tiltled players walk up and down the street as common as ants . lmao
( on a side note I have proved the strenght of my moves based on analysis alone ( some lines which are 24 ply deep ), you are bringing up the fact of my title more than anyone else . I thought it maybe relevant at the beginning of the thread I do not know , TO A CHESS GAME WITHOUT PROGRAMS !!!! ) Never once have I argued for a move based on my title alone . Just keep your opinions to yourself and I will do the same . Which was where we were headed before you chimed in

On September 10 2011 05:11 jdseemoreglass wrote:

Except you are obviously incapable of keeping your opinions to yourself. I'm not going to agree to ignore you insulting me. That doesn't even make sense.

You have called me a weak player. You have called me a know-it-all. You have accused me of cheating using engines. You have thrown endless passive aggressive attacks at me, from the database comments, to Fischer's GM age, and more.

You can't repeatedly insult someone and then tell them to just drop the whole thing, that's not how it works, sorry.